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Post by stormymondays on Sept 5, 2018 13:05:28 GMT -6
Looks like the output potentiomenter comes from the transformer selector switch and goes to the XLR output.
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 4, 2018 7:55:29 GMT -6
There’s a series of TotalMix videos by RME which Inrecmmend watching. I think this is the first:
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 4, 2018 7:53:09 GMT -6
All that is possible. Just so it’s clear, every input is directly mapped to the daw, and at the same time it’s routed through the mixer. With the mixer, you can create any mix and send it to any output.
So, you’d be recording channel one, while sending it to output 1 for effects, which would come into the mixer via inputs 3-4. Those returns can be sent to the headphones, main, and/or recorded to the daw.
There are 12 outputs (including the stereo phone outs) which can all have their own mix.
Stuff can also patched digitally but I rather not do the extra ADDA.
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 4, 2018 7:05:49 GMT -6
From a practical point of view: I've been using a pair for close to four years and I never attenuate the output unless strictly necessary. I think it sounds great.
I ended up replacing the 312 opamp with LTL Rogue Five because the 312 would sometimes collapse under the weight of a thunderous kick drum when using the steel output transformer and driving it hard. The Rogue Five cured that problem. However, I still think the original Opamp sounded great too.
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 4, 2018 6:56:41 GMT -6
Yes, the RME includes a "no latency" software mixer (TotalMix), which also has onboard effects which are very usable (you can add both reverb and delay). You can route any inputs to any outputs, so sending to external processors would be just as easy.
It's exactly the same as a digital mixer except there are no physical faders or knobs.
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 4, 2018 2:15:40 GMT -6
RME is a great choice. I love my Fireface 802.
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 4, 2018 2:01:03 GMT -6
I think the output control is post the transformer and it attenuated the signal but driving the gain drives the transformers and then you attenuate the output level with the output control ? So, the gain is doing the driving but you set final output with its control ? That’s what I always assumed.
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 3, 2018 10:17:21 GMT -6
I don't know about that, I've always assumed that the output control was post output transformer and had no effect on the sound. I don't have a schematic or block diagram to confirm this, though.
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 2, 2018 8:59:09 GMT -6
The output control needs to be on full unless you need to attenuate the output. That’s why you’re having that problem.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 30, 2018 16:42:12 GMT -6
Got the Moth Mic and it’s everything I hoped the Copperphone would be. It’s bandpassed and vintage-y but not peaky. I spoke with the guy that makes them, he told me he gets vintage dynamic capsules from Austria.
It sounded really cool on vocals and on snare drum. Full drums too. Haven’t tried it on piano yet.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 29, 2018 1:37:00 GMT -6
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 27, 2018 11:39:16 GMT -6
Just got one of my best snare drum sounds ever. KM84 at the usual position into a Chroma in N mode, LF boost, really pushing the transformer. Sounds like a record already.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 27, 2018 2:20:45 GMT -6
Softube Console 1 did it for me.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 24, 2018 9:12:38 GMT -6
My doubt now is between the vintage 87 (serviced) or save up for the 67 reissue which is almost twice as much. If the vintage one sells before I make my mind up, then someone will make the decision for me!
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 23, 2018 3:41:19 GMT -6
1. Are you looking to have one very recognizable microphone for clients to see and be impressed by that of course sounds great, or just one very versatile microphone that sounds great on a lot of sources?
2. What is your aesthetic as a producer/engineer?
#2 is probably the most important question to ask yourself. If you like things more on the vibey vintage side, then look at the FleA 47, FleA 49, or some incarnation of the U67 (Reissue, Stam, Bock). The U87ai and the Chandler REDD both have an in between modern/vintage sounds. The REDD in low contour is a bit like a beefy 251, while in normal mode its a bit like a U47 with more air in the top. The U87 has a more modern sound, but remains a bit more neutral. Reading your posts it sounds like you really like the U67 sound. You even have a couple of 67ish mics. If I were you I'd find your U67. Get the Reissue if you want a great vocal mic and a show piece. If you just want a great sound, Bock has one coming out for $1000 cheaper than the reissue, Stam's should be out to more people in the fall including you hopefully, or you could even reach out the Shannon to custom build something for you. There are options. Assuming you go all out on a U67 you still have a couple of 67ish mics you could sell to get some other sonic options.
-The U87i and U87ai are subtly different. We all know that that subtlety can be a huge thing on the wrong voice. I personally prefer the U87i except on voice over where I think the AI really shines. Either is a very nice workhorse, but it leans toward the brighter more modern side of things. I recorded my first album with one and my wife's voice loves a U87. In my own studio I have preferred the U87 on pop or RnB vocals and acoustic guitar. -The Chandler is cool, because it's NEW. Its a new sound creeping up in a lot of studios. That could be an edge as a show piece. It also has two modes making it very versatile. -The U67 is a favorite of mine and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't biased. I've been chasing that mic for a while now. I found the MK67 a bit on the dark side, Advanced Audio CM67LE w/vintage mod was nice for the price, but lacked a little bit of detail and bottom end, as budget mics do. These days I'm using a BLUE B11 cap with my Bottle Rocket Stage II. I'm recording a concept album for a new musical with it as my main vocal mic. It sounds awesome.
In my own studio these days I put out my FleA 49, U87ai, and Bottle Rocket II with either the B11 or B7 caps (I have the B6 & B0 too, but my aesthetic is more warm & vintage). Those are my go to mics at the start of a project. Personally, I like the Blue System, which I know gets a mixed reviews around here, more than my U87ai. The B7 is never going to beat out a good U47 clone and the same goes for the B11 and U67, etc, but as an extra mic to have around it's pretty cool. If you want to impress and are interested in the BLUE system, the big Bottle is a huge and cool looking mic, and the B6, B7, and B11 caps cover a lot of bases. I will also say if the M49 or U47 are what you are leaning toward, FleA mics are incredible. Whenever I had rock guys in my studio I used to reach for my Peluso 2247 SE. jtc111 's FleA 47 just rocked my mind when I first heard it. It's what really aimed me at their 49 which I love on a lot of sources. Again, thanks a lot for the time put into the reply! The answers are: 1. I'm "looking to have one very recognizable microphone for clients to see and be impressed by that of course sounds great". That's a very good definition. And I need to be impressed myself, since I'm the biggest client! 2. My aesthetic as a producer/engineer is more on the vibey vintage side. If I want to impress other clients, I think nothing but a Neumann would do. Maybe that vintage U87 is not a bad idea after all...
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 23, 2018 3:09:29 GMT -6
The A-designs EM-PEQ are extraordinary. All the Pultec goodness (without tubes) in 500 series.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 22, 2018 15:21:05 GMT -6
Wow. Any must buys? I have Abbey Road Plates and Chambers and that’s it. Lots of interesting stuff for $29.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 22, 2018 9:22:56 GMT -6
Yes, you have to email to order, turnaround is about 1 week. The STD is 175 €. !175 for an STD? Everybody I know had to pay to get rid of an STD😎 I could see that one coming for miles!!! 😂
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 22, 2018 9:01:47 GMT -6
Yes, you have to email to order, turnaround is about 1 week. The STD is 175 €.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 21, 2018 14:56:55 GMT -6
I've ordered one of these: mothsound.infoThey are local to me (Spain) and the Standard model seems to do what I was hoping the Copperphone to do. I'll report when I get the mic!
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 21, 2018 8:10:51 GMT -6
I think it’s this one:
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 21, 2018 8:09:08 GMT -6
Try to find the video I mentioned. Casey from Bricasti adding reverb to a jazz band recording.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 21, 2018 5:50:00 GMT -6
all that said....the clips easily show the problem I have with it. I totally dig an element that's bandpassed - sometimes. But my problem with the mic is that it's band passed signal is SIGNIFICANTLY focused towards the upper mids. I'd hazard to guess that 3k is 10+dB louder than 200Hz. That 3k-ish accentuation of the bandpassed signal KILLS it for me. Cymbals on the drum set get so pushed. Hi hat gets pushed. Vocals go uncontrollably sibilant. Those are normally the things I'm trying to keep under control - not accentuate. The ac gtr clip was interesting to me. The guitar must be super mellow with older strings if he used a 451 and it sounded that mellow to begin with. Adding the copperphone was actually really nice. But my experience gives me a much more guarded love for the mic. If they would voice one where it was essentially flat across the bandpass bandwidth without hugely accentuating that 2.5-3.5k region, I'd love it. But that upper-mid push just hits me the wrong way so much of the time. After living with the Copperphone for some time, I echo drbill's sentiment word by word. The mic looks cool, it seems like it should do a lovely thing, but it absolutely needs heavy EQ to tame it. I wonder if I could come up with an EQ curve that flattens it to my liking, and use that as a standard. I also need to try the Sonnox Dynamic EQ on it. However, if it needs EQ to work, I could also EQ another mic to do the same thing...
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 19, 2018 15:34:58 GMT -6
Lots of interesting replies! And Vincent R. thanks for getting quite into detail, very useful - I'll reply in more detail myself tomorrow. I'm leaning towards warm and vintage and I am the primary client although when clients come by I also want to impress. I've been also considering Flea, maybe the 48 because I really want a figure 8 option.
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 19, 2018 13:36:34 GMT -6
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