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Post by rowmat on Sept 26, 2017 19:11:53 GMT -6
In the middle of a session at the moment so I haven't been able to run them through all our pre's but they are sublimely smooth, yet detailed without sounding like the detail is EQ'ed in.
I have come to dislike many modern ribbons that attempt to emulate the frequency response of condensers by using various tricks to mechanically EQ the ribbon motor. To my ears I find these brighter ribbons sound weird in the highs.
This is often apparent in frequency response plots of these modern ribbons where you can see the high boost of is the result of some type of resonant tuning of the ribbon motor assembly.
I actually hated our AEA N22's until I removed the perforated tube that covered the ribbon motor which effectively turned them into N8's.
I have no doubt the extremely thin 0.6 micron ribbon has much to do with Coles ability to capture the natural transient response.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 25, 2017 5:29:27 GMT -6
Been reading up on these. The 1073 and 1084 are preferable all round for vocals and guitars because of the classic sound. Whilst the 1081 is preferred on drums and percussion because of the better transient response and more open sound. The big deal with the 1081 is the EQ. A 1081 without EQ is like eating pizza without mozzarella!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 23, 2017 17:12:38 GMT -6
Wow that is some heavy -and ill advised- filtering! I came to the same conclusion!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 23, 2017 16:17:42 GMT -6
Not me. Tell me more about it, via private message if you need. I know a lot about spam filtering. Thanks for the offer but I've contacted my ISP and they think it maybe the spam filtering they are using. I have had two people attempt to send me emails containing a private Bandcamp link from two different accounts. One is a GMail account while the other is a private domain. I don't receive any of these emails unless they remove the Bandcamp link. If they change the Bandcamp link to say "Test" the email comes through. If they then replace the word "Test" with the link it doesn't. I'll know in the next day or so if the problem is fixed.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 22, 2017 12:51:55 GMT -6
Far from a one liner but because we track and mix most of what we track here's a common situation concerning rough mixes at the end of a day's tracking
What is your standard day length?
Our standard day is 10 hours. Any longer than this and typically fatigue sets in along with diminishing returns.
I think it's important to make it clear that if it's a tracking day, and the client expects rough mixes at the end of the day, then you need to allow time for that WITHIN THE 10 HOURS to do the roughs.
There seems to be an expectation from many that they will track for 10 hours and then have you spend another 2 hours running off half a dozen rough mixes at no extra charge.
So it's important to point this out at the start of the session.
"We'll track from 10am to 6pm, then run you off the roughs and finish at 8pm, okay?"
Another common scenario is to track for 10 hours and offer to run off roughs after the client has gone home and Dropbox them later.
If that's agreed upon then fine, but that time should be billed on top of the 10 hours.
In most cases the clients are fine with this as long as you make it clear at the start.
Here's a trick that works most of the time. Send someone out at around 5.30pm to get pizza and beer.
When they arrive back at around 6pm and the band members smell pizza wafting through the joint you assemble them all in the control room on the couch, hand out pizza and beer and say, "Right! Rough mixes!"
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Post by rowmat on Sept 22, 2017 3:18:48 GMT -6
Looky, looky a matched pair of waffle irons!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 21, 2017 23:30:05 GMT -6
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Post by rowmat on Sept 21, 2017 20:45:04 GMT -6
I see several Neve/Tape studios here in Australia with a daily base rate of around $500 but then by the time you add around $250 for an engineer/assistant (often compulsory), another couple of hundred or so for tape hire/costs plus GST (tax) the all up day rate is more like $1000 excluding session musicians and producers fees.
To be frank I don't see how anyone can even make this work just recording self funded bands if renting inner city space with the cost of today's real estate.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 21, 2017 18:33:25 GMT -6
Just wondering if anyone has experienced emails being blocked or spam filtered that contain Bandcamp links?
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Post by rowmat on Sept 21, 2017 17:50:45 GMT -6
Wow, that's pretty cheap, isn't it? People gush about 1081s, though I know much of that has to do with the EQ. The Neve Class A/B pre's tend to be a little more present than the Class A's. The 1081 Class A/B channel modules have a bigger output transformer than the broadcast 5x Series Class A/B (33114/33115) pres which are substantially smaller and narrower. But yes, the predominate reason for wanting a 1081 is the EQ.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 20, 2017 22:28:37 GMT -6
Meth Cocaine Lap Dancers Pizza
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Post by rowmat on Sept 19, 2017 21:49:27 GMT -6
In that case, go with the rough mix. Well there's always exceptions to the rule! "More barn!"
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Post by rowmat on Sept 19, 2017 21:29:18 GMT -6
Yikes! That's way too close! 😮 I expected at least 12-18".
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Post by rowmat on Sept 19, 2017 20:18:54 GMT -6
It was a big loosely tuned bass drum that was sat upright and was being played like a tribal drum. While those Coles were working, the sound was GLORIOUS! . There was no air movement...like air movement from a hole cut in the drum head (there was no hole). It was just A LOT of volume and LF. I'm sure that toasted the ribbon. How far away were the mics?
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Post by rowmat on Sept 19, 2017 19:37:22 GMT -6
Welp, I need to remember my own advice! I just sent my pair off to Clarence Kane again for a re-ribboning today. I need to remember to keep those things at least two feet from large loud drum heads. Yikes! If you can feel any air movement at all then it spells danger for the ribbon unless it has plenty of internal screening. I would be using pop filters if I were you. The ribbons in the 4038 are a crazy thin 0.6 microns which is typically 1/3rd the thickness of most current ribbon mics. Holding up a sheet of paper just in front of the mic is a good indicator for checking air movement. We have a 100 year old pump organ I mic with a stereo ribbon mic. Although it's not a super loud instrument it does produce quite a bit of air turbulence out of the rear. The pump is an air compressor after all. Same with Leslie speaker cabinets. They can be a bit like miking up a helicopter rotor! Now you wouldn't go and stick an unprotected ribbon mic anywhere near a helicopter rotor would you?
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Post by rowmat on Sept 19, 2017 18:52:31 GMT -6
The initial email I received was a somewhat poorly worded and misspelled generic notification asking me to approve all charges and fees. For instance, "Charges" was spelled "Chrages". When I rung the logistics company and mentioned their email looked very much like one of the dozen or so scam/spam emails I get each week the woman on the phone laughed told me they get lots of queries from customers questioning whether or not their notifications are genuine or bogus. It may still be bogus! If you agree to terms before knowing what the terms are then they have legal ground to collect those fees. No it's okay. I managed to speak to the actual guy in Sydney who handled my shipping. I did some research and checked their website details before I agreed to anything. I was expecting a call/email regarding importation fees but the initial email and apparent difficultly in quoting me a figure triggered my bullshit detector for a while.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 19, 2017 12:21:49 GMT -6
We charge by the hour although we did just quote $100 per song to clean up three live tracks and mix them (two close mics and a room mic) for a video clip.
Charging by the project is the best way to go broke and mad at the same time!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 19, 2017 10:42:15 GMT -6
The initial email I received was a somewhat poorly worded and misspelled generic notification asking me to approve all charges and fees.
For instance, "Charges" was spelled "Chrages".
When I rung the logistics company and mentioned their email looked very much like one of the dozen or so scam/spam emails I get each week the woman on the phone laughed told me they get lots of queries from customers questioning whether or not their notifications are genuine or bogus.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 18, 2017 22:31:34 GMT -6
I received an email from the shipping logistics company handling the importation of my pair of Coles 4038's. I had to authorise them to clear the shipment and agree to all charges. I said I wasn't in the habit of agreeing to anything without knowing how much it was going to cost me upfront. In the past I usually received a phonecall from the shipping agent quoting me the figure over the phone. However this time they wanted me to agree to all charges before they had provided a total but when I asked for a figure they just kept repeating I had to agree to all charges still without providing a total. Finally after several phone calls and emails I got the figures... $240 GST (Goods and Services Tax) $120 Government Import Duty $83 Customs Importation Fee $95 Customs Clearance Processing Fee (The fee to process all the above fees!) Total $538.00 That's about $200 more than it would have been about a year ago!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 18, 2017 15:59:09 GMT -6
Don't use your tongue to push faders on a 30 year old console. The various traces of green, white and other substances found under the fader plate region of a 30 year console are quite possibly worth more than the console itself.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 17, 2017 19:31:06 GMT -6
Never do a really good sounding rough mix. You'll spend the rest of the project trying to figure out how to beat it. Another issue is clients getting so used to hearing the rough(s) that they have trouble warming to the final(s) even if they are miles better.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 17, 2017 0:32:51 GMT -6
A horse with no name walks into a recording studio...
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Post by rowmat on Sept 16, 2017 17:23:39 GMT -6
Reaper is very efficient but regardless of which DAW you use virtual instruments and convolution based effects and high sample rates will eat resources... but you already know that!
Not sad we didn't keep going down the PT path however.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 16, 2017 14:51:47 GMT -6
Soon and yes that's what Wiz and Ericn said and the ada8200 seems fine. I Am really looking forward to using the delta and my OB! A preview of what's in store for you. Are you really sure you want to go down this path? This was during our more chaotic period a few years ago. Things are a little more 'Feng Shui' these days (someone's wife got involved )... though I confess I did kind of like the old vibe a little!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 15, 2017 12:51:54 GMT -6
Didn't you know that the first two letters "Be" in the word Behringer stand for "Badge Engineering"?
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