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Post by rowmat on May 16, 2024 15:43:30 GMT -6
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Post by rowmat on May 15, 2024 20:46:21 GMT -6
How will they be able to tell if AI was used to make anything? Art specialists regularly authenticate copies. Nobody cares. Antique dealers routinely make 4 chairs out of one real antique. Not even against the law, as long as there is a part of that one antique chair in every one of the four "new" chairs. My 14 year old son already uses AI to make his homework. One of his teachers figured she could use AI to detect that. It took him an hour or so to find a solution to that. The most successful recent fashion chain (Shein) only sells cheap copies and look-a-likes. And they are expanding into electronics and any other product that's of interest. Some in the music industry routinely re-release songs with a different title and a few even copyrighted silence. Our world is composed of fakes. And you can't stop progress. The real problem isn't on the output side. It's on the input side. What have they used to train the AI? And that fight has already started. It might just make libraries of stuff more valuable. The EULA of AI sites is pretty much standard stuff. Nobody reads these. If you agree without reading, you're in for a few surprises. Facebook owns copyright to EVERYTHING you post on it. Your words, your music, your pictures. Etc. If you just wake up on that right now, you'd better not use the net at all. You still own copyright on your mail. Well, maybe not if you're still a HotMail user. But you don't own your own words (and pictures and music) if you're using Whatsapp. Again, etc. Remember, if the service you use is free, you are the product. In the end, large companies will win from average users. Companies have more resources, and, most important, companies don't die. Maybe a class action lawsuit will have more effect, but nobody has tried that yet. IANAL and laws differ a lot between countries, but I could see that happening. Mark Zuckerberg purchased WhatsApp because when FaceBook users realised FB Messenger was being harvested for data many switched over to WhatsApp as it had implemented end-to-end encryption and was touted to respect users privacy. Sometime after Zuckerberg acquired WhatsApp the terms of the service including privacy were changed and now WhatsApp is used as an another source of data collection and sharing by Meta.
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Post by rowmat on May 15, 2024 20:30:37 GMT -6
There has been a literal explosion of AI generated YouTube channels lately.
I watch a lot a photography related YouTube videos specifically showcasing renowned photographers from the past.
I reckon about 80% of those videos created in the last year are AI.
They mostly follow the same formula with a slideshow of the photos including music and captions (often misspelled) and sometimes AI generated voiceovers which are typically just scripted directly from Wikipedia often with mispronunciations.
Sometimes the same photo appears more than once in the slideshow most likely due to being cropped differently or the contrast or colour is different enough to fool the AI algorithm into thinking it is a different photo altogether from the other.
It really does wear thin pretty quickly especially when you are prompted at the end to “like”, “subscribe” and support all the hard work of the channels ‘creator’ by sending donations to their Patreon account. 🙄
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Post by rowmat on May 9, 2024 14:56:54 GMT -6
I have few but ended up rarely using them.
Granted if you have a low output mic and a pre with not a lot of gain that needed maxing out that could make the case for one.
However I found with a decent quality high gain pre (Twin Servo etc) and something like a Coles 4038 I preferred it without the Cloudlifter.
If anything the CL increased the noise slightly and definitely altered the sound.
A crazy long cable run between a low output mic and pre ‘may’ also benefit from a CL but I would compare with and without first.
If it sounds better with it, use it, if it doesn’t, don’t.
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Post by rowmat on May 9, 2024 9:42:54 GMT -6
Dang it! Stop talking about plates will ya!? 🤢 Sold my pristine EMT140 18 months ago. Miss it like hell but couldn’t justify keeping it after we closed the studio. It’s okay. I’ll get back to my knitting. As you were.
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Post by rowmat on May 9, 2024 9:01:05 GMT -6
I see used studios here locally for around $2,000 cdn, if you wanted to grab one let me know, could ship etc.. Thanks for the offer but I def need a MB for the portability and I’ll have to buy it locally for warranty etc. Not as much DAW stuff these days but more photography related and maybe some 4K video. The later versions of Adobe PS and LR are often crashing my old MBP and it doesn’t have enough GPU RAM for many tasks so there’s that. Opencore got me by for about 12 months but since the last couple of Adobe updates I’ve hit quicksand due to hardware limitations.
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Post by rowmat on May 9, 2024 7:36:56 GMT -6
Undoubtedly with Apple releasing new M* versions as quickly as they are the likely rate of ‘programmed’ obsolescence will follow at nearly the same speed. I say “programmed” because Apple’s propensity for denying OS upgrades on older hardware, often only three versions prior to the current, when the hardware is invariably capable of supporting the newer OS’s is simply extortion. Just use open legacy patcher to run uncertified os on older macs: works fine. Yep know it and I’m running this already on my mid 2012 MBP with Ventura. It allowed me to run the latest versions of Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom. However this now 12YO MBP is indeed struggling due to its age and with more AI related apps requiring a lot more horsepower. A mid spec’d 14” MBP here in Oz is pushing $7K AUD. I paid around $4400 AUD for my 15” MBP Retina in 2012. I’m looking at an M3 MBP or maybe an M4 depending on how far away the release date is. While Opencore Legacy Patcher has been a get out of Apple jail for many it just highlights my point that Apple are acting in bad faith when it comes to prematurely obsoleting their hardware typically beyond the third or fourth OS upgrade.
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Post by rowmat on May 8, 2024 22:09:30 GMT -6
Undoubtedly with Apple releasing new M* versions as quickly as they are the likely rate of ‘programmed’ obsolescence will follow at nearly the same speed.
I say “programmed” because Apple’s propensity for denying OS upgrades on older hardware, often only three versions prior to the current, when the hardware is invariably capable of supporting the newer OS’s is simply extortion.
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Post by rowmat on May 4, 2024 17:40:33 GMT -6
The moment you discover that Taylor Swift is actually AI generated.
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Post by rowmat on May 3, 2024 20:11:23 GMT -6
From what I’m hearing from an avid classic car guy prices are falling in that market as well. Interesting... My Ferrari Fanatic Friend thinks otherwise. Hmm... Does the avid guy ever use... Pro Tools? Chris Unless it’s a 250 GTO which seems to be around 10x the price of a 275 GTB.
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Post by rowmat on May 3, 2024 18:17:35 GMT -6
IMHO some exceptions though... Bluegrass Dan and Paul's U47's IMHO will continue to appreciate. As one of the "Ferrari's" of Vintage Mic models. 275 GTB Ferrari's are above 3 Million US $ now!!. Like Picasso's/Rembrandt's and all those Monkeys throwing paint cans. Chris From what I’m hearing from an avid classic car guy prices are falling in that market as well.
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Post by rowmat on May 3, 2024 18:05:51 GMT -6
If everything in the Cold Fusion video comes to fruition in the estimated time-frame, I am also wondering what that means for gear hoarders like myself - in the near term (5 years, maybe) do we just expect demand for all this (already niche) stuff to tank? I'm having fun in the meantime, so will likely just put my head in the sand, but many of us have sunk a sizable chunk of change into this art/field/profession/hobby - definitely a concern. When I posted that original Udio sample, I figured it would be of interest but it seems to have "struck a chord" a bit more than I would have guessed - makes sense though, now that I'm getting a feel for how AI really is going to impact the world in such a dominant way (at least eventually). Thanks for all the interesting opinions/posts. -Chris I think gear prices are tanking already, especially at the high end. Forget what sellers are asking, what are they actually getting? Are people still willing to pay $4k for that KM84 listed on Reverb? Prices initially dropped after the COVID frenzy subsided but now AI has to be factored in and will only become more significant as it appears in every aspect of our lives whether we like it or not. With cost of living pressures mounting and income for most dropping how many can continue to afford to spend crazy money on gear? And from a client’s perspective how long before even charging $20 an hour for a well equipped studio with esoteric vintage gear the studio owner paid a fortune for is now too much for clients when they can type some text into a box, upload a sample of their own voice, and in a couple of minutes generate something that would have taken them weeks and a bunch of $$ to produce and then upload it to all the streaming services the same day? The playing field hasn’t changed, it’s being concreted over and replaced with a theme park with free rides.
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Post by rowmat on May 2, 2024 0:14:46 GMT -6
They should have FINALLY changed that Model Name. Wasn’t the Rode NT (rodent) supposed to be inside joke?
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Post by rowmat on May 1, 2024 23:06:05 GMT -6
I think where Rick Beato missed the point is AI won’t mean the end of people playing music but it will seriously affect their ability to earn even a basic living from it.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 26, 2024 0:12:24 GMT -6
Quite daunting to consider the big picture, things definitely have to be managed carefully. Who are we trusting to manage things carefully? Better give Dave Bowman a call. He’s had some experience dealing with out of control AI. 😜
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Post by rowmat on Apr 24, 2024 20:42:30 GMT -6
Ask a 20 year old what the world was like without the internet or a smart phone or streaming services or TikTok and they’ll look at you like you’re some kind of relic from the Stone Age. If they even know what the Stone Age was. Otherwise Mick and Keef are still kicking around. Literally. 60 years of mind altering substances have probably scared the Grim Reaper away.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 20, 2024 13:56:49 GMT -6
Music as a consumer product in all it's forms will change drastically. Music as a vibrational expression created by humans facing their own mortality will be fine. I'll eat my words when AI gives me honest goosebumps.. those inexplicable moments that seem to capture our finite presence here. For now I still prefer analog humans. I agree that most human creatives will still want to create inspite of AI and some will make it their mission to push back against it. Most would rather record in a physical environment interacting with others than simply generate something from an AI script. The issue is ultimately return on investment and that has been in decline for most musicians for the last 20 odd years. The days of making a decent income from just selling your music alone went by the wayside well before the advent of AI. Unless you have a large enough loyal following and are able to tour and sellout shows to those who want to see a live performance then the likelihood of generating a liveable income just from the music itself is limited. Music festivals have been traditionally a major drawcard for musicians and audiences however here in Oz many festival have announced they are shutting down citing increasing costs and diminishing ticket sales. (Unless you’re Taylor Swift or say a band like King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard here) Now they have to compete with AI on top of everything else. With the cost of living rising along with the costs of running a studio how many artists are adequately cash flow positive in order to keep studio owners afloat themselves? And for that matter how many small/project studios alone generate enough income for the owner or are they also working other jobs? Most of the musicians we recorded either worked day jobs to save for their session fees or managed to obtain funding via government arts grants. Even that is now in decline as money tightens across the board.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 20, 2024 13:00:15 GMT -6
Ask a 20 year old what the world was like without the internet or a smart phone or streaming services or TikTok and they’ll look at you like you’re some kind of relic from the Stone Age.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 20, 2024 12:56:02 GMT -6
AI is already beginning to feed the next generation of consumers. For most they won’t care where the music/movies/creative arts etc came from or how they were made. As already mentioned in a year or two it will fool more ‘professionals’ and reach a point where it has permeated so many industries to such an extent that people will stop thinking about it except those of us who remember the ‘old days’ when human beings actually created art.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 19, 2024 8:40:29 GMT -6
This all begs the question. Is AI becoming sentient? ..or let's turn it around. Are we just evolving biological computers?
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Post by rowmat on Apr 18, 2024 19:22:43 GMT -6
Arms and legs make for a much more compelling live show typically. Sure do. And they are working on that. . Just wait till they execute the hot babe model - then the final frontier (did you notice my nice alliteration? AI is KILLER at artistic alliterations) is lips moving. <<thumbsup>> Lest anyone doubt or have their head in the sand, music 20 years from now will bear virtually no resemblance to music 2024, and certainly not to music 1979. At the rate of progression, it might take only 10 years.... Glad I'm in the phasing out stage of my career as opposed to the ramping up stage. My sincerest best wishes for those of you just starting out.... To put things in some kind of perspective these publicly available Boston Dynamics videos of various robots performing stunts are what they allow in the public domain. It would be foolish to think that these are the state of the art. The really scary shit that could be used in high tech military applications likely remains hidden within highly classified R&D projects probably deep underground.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 18, 2024 19:08:54 GMT -6
I’ve noticed a ton of YouTube videos are now being created using AI. For instance ‘COPS’ style law enforcement videos using AI narration and subtitles that are often incorrect. Also many videos showcasing famous photographers using the same type of slideshows and music. Often some of the photos are duplicated especially if they have been cropped differently which indicates the AI was fooled and didn’t identify the duplicate. It has reached the point where AI can now create a YouTube channel from scratch based upon a subject and then using bots harvest existing content from the internet and re-edit and assemble it including a script, narration, music and automatically create and publish new videos at set intervals. I hate to say it but I work in tech and what's about today in the grand AI schema is nothing more than a gimmick compared to some of the big budget stuff held behind curtains. Practically no industry is safe, although it really does make me wonder when we get to the "big bang" what then? Economies fall, we don't have jobs and even the creative side is covered. So what exactly do we do with ourselves? I'm not afraid of not working that's for sure but I gotta fill that time. Hence the murmurs of a UBI (Universal Basic Income) a minimum barely survivable carrot-on-a-string wage for all those made redundant. To risk going down the rabbit hole event further are the talking points emanating from some governments (Canada) of legalising euthanasia for those with mental illness. With the direction we are heading in increasing depression seems to a given for many. Depression being a form of mental illness could lumber those along with the elderly and disabled into the category of ‘useless eaters’. Better crank up the Soylent Green plant! 😵💫
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Post by rowmat on Apr 18, 2024 16:46:52 GMT -6
I’ve noticed a ton of YouTube videos are now being created using AI.
For instance ‘COPS’ style law enforcement videos using AI narration and subtitles that are often incorrect.
Also many videos showcasing famous photographers using the same type of slideshows and music. Often some of the photos are duplicated especially if they have been cropped differently which indicates the AI was fooled and didn’t identify the duplicate.
It has reached the point where AI can now create a YouTube channel from scratch based upon a subject and then using bots harvest existing content from the internet and re-edit and assemble it including a script, narration, music and automatically create and publish new videos at set intervals.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 15, 2024 18:46:03 GMT -6
It’s not only audio.
AI is already re-engineering the movie/video industry.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 13, 2024 19:18:06 GMT -6
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