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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 22:14:33 GMT -6
now that I'm rocking a focusrite in a mobile rig, I've had to start to think about latency a bit more as the auto reporting is not accurate enough.
end result is i am being forced into developing my quantizing and stretch marker skills. I'm ok with that as I've developed a way that retain the feel of the artist.
but... I'm left thinking i'll need to recal the latency each session as there are to many variables at play like ambient temp slowing down the surface pro, channel count changes, plugin numbers on monitoring etc.
what was a big help was tracking more cowbell and tamborine to help as a guide.
so, is it just me?
or do others have workflow sorted. any tips or tricks.
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 22:04:32 GMT -6
Well to be honest I do like the cm48t, but I've been kind turned away by the other models. Maybe it's the photos but I can say the only reason I don't own the 414 as an example is because I don't like the look. The warm 414 I do like the look as an example. Stay after school and write on thje blackboard 500 times: EARS NOT EYES EARS NOT EYES EARS NOT EYES EARS NOT EYES EARS NOT EYES EARS NOT EYES EARS....... yup, you don't get it.
let me rewrite that for you.
ears then eyes
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 22:02:54 GMT -6
Well to be honest I do like the cm48t, but I've been kind turned away by the other models. Maybe it's the photos but I can say the only reason I don't own the 414 as an example is because I don't like the look. The warm 414 I do like the look as an example. I see what you mean with some of the mics not looking like the mics they are tributing. I can get that. I have 3 AA mics and I'm ordering another. So I will say they are built well and sound great. A few people mentioned the AEA R84. That looks awesome and would give you a fat tone. Might not be a bad idea if you have a decent preamp with plenty of gain. my point was not that mics should look like the mics they referencing or that AA mics aren't excellent sounding mics.
to be honest I don't really need my mics to reference any other previously designed mic. I don't buy into the whole clone thing.
all I really need is a mic that sounds great and looks the part. to me... :-)
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 20:19:12 GMT -6
I'm buying it to sound good and look good in that order. to be honest there is no reason that can't be realised. Many people will hassle you about caring about the looks, but it's important when catering to clients. The looks can take a performer to the next level. yeah they will. I'm ok with that. without starting a fight it comes from a lack of understanding.
the idea that if something is functional it can't celebrate form is such a misused statement. frank Lloyd wright must roll in his grave with how people have completely miss construed "form follows function". he never intended it to mean form doesn't matter.
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 19:10:38 GMT -6
I'm buying it to sound good and look good in that order.
to be honest there is no reason that can't be realised.
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 16:42:15 GMT -6
The mic is for recording others. My hesitation with the AA mics is aesthetics. In what way? They are built really well. The big difference between AA and say Peluso is the connector cable and the power supply. Peluso uses a nice upgraded cable and power supply, which looks nice. You'll have to spend $500-$1000 more on the Peluso, and you won't necessarily get better sound. AA is brushed nickel colored and Peluso champagne colored. Well to be honest I do like the cm48t, but I've been kind turned away by the other models. Maybe it's the photos but I can say the only reason I don't own the 414 as an example is because I don't like the look. The warm 414 I do like the look as an example.
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 15:50:20 GMT -6
The mic is for recording others.
My hesitation with the AA mics is aesthetics.
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 7:07:01 GMT -6
thought i'd report back on the scarlett.
first up. the sound quality is awesome. I am going to keep it that way by never doing an ab. "-) to be honest I don't want to think about it any more.
ease of use. that is top notch as well. it hasn't skipped a beat connected to a surface pro 2.
fold back and routing. it works with no issues. there are 3 sets of fold back options that can be accessed without any need for ninja skill routing.
latency. ok. this thing is a big piece of shite with regards to latency. not from a point of monitoring as that's very good. it's the automatic latency reporting when plugged into reaper. it's just not accurate enough. some overdubs are behind the click and others are in front of the click. it seems very random. I will need to override the auto control and set a specific sample amount.
I am starting to think the best option here is to test latency every session and adjust as part of my setup process. i'll start another thread on this.
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Post by gouge on Feb 13, 2017 5:27:39 GMT -6
here is the cp5 on snare from a session on the weekend. first file is the entire kit. second file is the solo snare. glyn johns setup. pm860 pair into lola on overheads; beta 52a into vocoloco on kick; snare mic into cp5.
this is raw, I haven't edited out the miss hit at the end.
https%3A//soundcloud.com/studiogestalt/outro-kit
https%3A//soundcloud.com/studiogestalt/outro-snare
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Post by gouge on Feb 12, 2017 22:08:04 GMT -6
i like the sytek a lot as well. especially on acoustic.
i tracked some drums on the weekend and used the cp5 on snare. it sound pretty good but again is missing some air. i'll upload a clip tonight is i can.
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Post by gouge on Feb 9, 2017 23:02:16 GMT -6
true,
but it's good to dream. :-)
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Post by gouge on Feb 9, 2017 22:18:46 GMT -6
I'm looking for suggestions for a vocal mic that has some thickness to it. Warm saturated girth. The type of mic people would accuse of verging on being overly colored. Cheers. Budget and microphone type preference, please. Also, examples of vocal recordings that sound fat, warm, saturated and verging on overly colored could help narrow suggestions down. budget is sub 1k as this is not my day job.
currently using an rca which has a nice bump down low but lacks a little air. along side a gefell pm860 which is less bottom but has a nice top end. or an sm7/sm57.
the shure has a good proximity thing but is too pinched. the gefell and the rca whilst awesome have a mid thing going on. I'm looking for something with less mids some top end and a big bottom. so when the rca and gefell aren't doing it I have a different option to try.
so a mic that sounds like a neve preamp or a tube comp. I'm thinking saturated and thick. this is an alternative to what I already have. so not looking for just proximity effect.
on my list is the red r12 or jolly MJE-K47H caps for my oktava mk012 also thinking about the early groove tubes md series.
the aea is now on the list.
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Post by gouge on Feb 9, 2017 2:00:31 GMT -6
I'm looking for suggestions for a vocal mic that has some thickness to it.
Warm saturated girth. The type of mic people would accuse of verging on being overly colored.
Cheers.
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Post by gouge on Feb 8, 2017 4:44:28 GMT -6
the 4 files are not levelled matched 24/44.1 wave files.
there are 2 different guitars. a 70's grecco sg and an ampeg les paul modified with p90's. all sm57 mics.
I setup the les paul with 57/sytek first just off centre and placed a 57/cp5 beside it. hence the cp5 is darker. I felt this was a little unfair so doubled the guitar part with the grecco but this time set the 57/cp5 first then put the 57/sytek beside it.
all up the sytek is brighter and has more mids.
https%3A//soundcloud.com/studiogestalt/grecco-57-cp5 https%3A//soundcloud.com/studiogestalt/grecco-57-syt https%3A//soundcloud.com/studiogestalt/les-paul-57-cp5 https%3A//soundcloud.com/studiogestalt/les-paul-57-syt
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Post by gouge on Feb 7, 2017 16:31:20 GMT -6
Maybe the Pontiac of the SM57 family? Let's split it and say Oldsmobile, No longer made, smooth ride, stupid switch Smooth ride and Unlike a SM57 a grill like a Beta57 that you can't destroy it ! This ain't your fathers 57!😎 You guys are just playin with my head now.
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Post by gouge on Feb 6, 2017 20:51:36 GMT -6
They are clean and quiet, prob not as open as I would like. If the source sounds good then they are fine but there is no help. I compared to the sytek tonight. I left my hard drive at home so need to wait till next weekend now to upload files. I used an sm57 pair. Comparing them makes the sytek seem coloured. The cp5 is pretty much flat, so the sytek sounds brighter with more body in the mids. The sytek sounded bigger. Thanks for doing this . It will determine for me which mic pre to get . I'm thinking its now the Sytek but I wanna hear the difference myself . hi scumbum,
i'll upload tomorrow the files for you. I have been very busy with recording and work so haven't had the time as yet. doing more tonight but tomorrow is free. :-)
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Post by gouge on Feb 2, 2017 19:01:42 GMT -6
Now that all the expensive stuff is listed.......
Sytek.
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Post by gouge on Feb 1, 2017 21:04:51 GMT -6
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH.
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Post by gouge on Feb 1, 2017 19:01:31 GMT -6
so the little scarlett gen 2 is good to go, hooked up to a surface pro 2 and headphone amps.
out of interest I hired the scarlett for 6 months at approx $180 total. the unit is brand new and I am now a fully fledged registered focusrite member with access to all of their gear/plugs.
to buy the red plugs would have cost me around $350 on their own.
recording an entire band Saturday.
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Post by gouge on Jan 31, 2017 16:05:50 GMT -6
You guys should also check out the air windows dither plugs.
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Post by gouge on Jan 28, 2017 8:03:10 GMT -6
They are clean and quiet, prob not as open as I would like. If the source sounds good then they are fine but there is no help.
I compared to the sytek tonight. I left my hard drive at home so need to wait till next weekend now to upload files.
I used an sm57 pair. Comparing them makes the sytek seem coloured. The cp5 is pretty much flat, so the sytek sounds brighter with more body in the mids.
The sytek sounded bigger.
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Post by gouge on Jan 27, 2017 18:43:18 GMT -6
It's got a bite to it I think sounds pretty cool. Am wondering with snare?
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Post by gouge on Jan 27, 2017 15:55:11 GMT -6
I noticed on another site shadow you made mention of soundelux with this mic. is there a connection there?
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Post by gouge on Jan 27, 2017 2:33:02 GMT -6
I still haven't done it. I'll use one tomorrow.
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Post by gouge on Jan 26, 2017 15:44:57 GMT -6
Your mediocre is someone's gold martin
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