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Post by gouge on Aug 24, 2023 18:12:50 GMT -6
all good. i respect your counterpoint and understand this is a conversation with many different ideas and experiences
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Post by gouge on Aug 24, 2023 5:12:28 GMT -6
i gotta say i can't believe people still argue over sample rates.
When i initially started using digital i preferred higher sample rates. i was quickly told on forums that it was in my head because sample theory meant that 44.1 was all i needed. on the purple site people were ridiculed for suggesting higher sample rates sounded better.
over time people started to identify they preferred higher rates too and over time the industry slowly moved from 44.1 to 96
With time, a few leaders in the industry started to address the idea that plugins performed better at higher sample rates. So we had a fundamental shift. It was becoming accepted that higher sample rates had benefits. higher sample rates was now a thing.
while this was going on we still had the "plugins sounded plastic" argument going on. Personally, i thought they sounded plastic. Again bodies of people on forums let me know how i was misinformed, had amateur ears, didn't understand the science etc. etc......
again, over time we were informed that actually, plugins can sound plastic because aliasing adds up. so that plastic sound i was hearing was in fact aliasing. now, oversampling is a thing.
throughout the journey, we also had the idea pushed that because sample theory can recreate a wave file perfectly you can simply resample everything that needs it. of course, doing loop back tests kinda suggested something different but that was put down to poor designs and analogue input/ouput circuits.
now we have people starting to identify that sample theory is great if you have unlimited computing power but as we don't have unlimited computing power it is possibly not as perfect as suggested in the real world so now there are other ways of resampling being approached.
you know It really stands out to me that for years people could hear the flaws in digital while being told there were none or their ears couldn't hear that high.. don't get me wrong, I've got plugs i rate really highly and i think that modern digital has come a long way and i love using it, but i have not forgotten the journey and for everyone whos tried to tell me 44.1 is all i need i can only think surely we've moved beyond this because history has not been kind to that idea.
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Post by gouge on Aug 23, 2023 4:32:09 GMT -6
,One of the points discussed was not needing to overssmple if using higher sample rates in the first place. It was suggested just use higher sample rates Not so simple with 192 khz. See fabientdr's thread on gearslutz where he showed that sometimes lower sample rates are cleaner from not intermodulating high frequency garbage. gearspace.com/board/mastering-forum/968641-some-thoughts-quot-high-resolution-quot-audio-processing.htmlI switched to 88.2 and 96 kHz to make MDWEQ zero latency and to clean up mixes that have everything automated all the time Typically I prefer higher sample rates when I do blind tests. Can’t say why, it’s just where I landed. Some of the plugs I use don’t do 192 so I use 96, and kinda moved beyond thinking about it any more.
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Post by gouge on Aug 21, 2023 7:21:45 GMT -6
,One of the points discussed was not needing to overssmple if using higher sample rates in the first place. It was suggested just use higher sample rates
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Post by gouge on Aug 20, 2023 8:23:52 GMT -6
Ok. I was listening more to the guy he interviewed
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Post by gouge on Aug 20, 2023 0:16:32 GMT -6
Who’s dingdong
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Post by gouge on Aug 19, 2023 5:24:49 GMT -6
Thx Svart. Link fixed.
Lots of interesting information in there. Whilst I can’t dive into a theoretical conversation with you I do feel a little more informed.
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Post by gouge on Aug 17, 2023 18:20:27 GMT -6
Thought this might interest many on the forum
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Post by gouge on Jul 24, 2023 17:50:15 GMT -6
i had a similar setup with a soundcraft ghost.
i ended up incorporating half normalled points via a patch on the output of all external preamps and inputs of converters so i could completley bypass the console as needed. which i ended up doing.
console gets used for monitor only, setting up mixes on the fly to test ideas, extra preamps and eq when needed, mix downs otb, stereo out to tape/dsd during full band recording.
i set things up like that because i noted engineers i admired would typically go direct to tape or adc when tracking if they were not using the preamps in the control room mixer. idea being less shit in the path.
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Post by gouge on Jul 24, 2023 2:25:37 GMT -6
well done. There was a point where I got lost in the song.
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Post by gouge on Jul 19, 2023 5:50:24 GMT -6
" Another vote for the Iaa qp5. love my pair and Matt is solid.
Most recent aha moment was on snare.
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Post by gouge on May 29, 2023 20:35:37 GMT -6
They come up locally from time to time. Do you know which more recent versions to look for.
Peavey Classic used prices are pretty good too.
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Post by gouge on May 29, 2023 16:23:54 GMT -6
My next cheap amp to give some love is the joyo jta-5
. ill put decent tubes in and swap out the speaker for a higher end jensen type.
Always looking for cheap tube amps that sound great. The artist 20r is another.
Got me wondering what else is out there. What would you choose for bass or guitar
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Post by gouge on May 29, 2023 16:13:26 GMT -6
I really like the 57 on acoustic guitar. 57 and neveish preamps are like cheese and tomato. Or peanut butter and honey... vegemite and avocado
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Post by gouge on May 16, 2023 21:07:33 GMT -6
yeah to gold 5! this new engine acustica have is really very impressive. love the compressors. not used the eq yet.
the newer acustica plugs to my thinking have come with lower cpu usage and improved fidelity. someones getting something right. gold 5 was free as i already had 4 as is the case for all their plugs, another awesome part of acustica. i've been using waves api2500 on my drum crush buss and gold 5 comp has put it to the sword!
the free black plug has neve emulation combined with filters. it makes my tracks sound better. i'm pretty much acustica only now. except for TDL comps, eq and the arouser plug.
there are some key plugs for me from acustica.
taupe, black, aquamarine, lemon are a few i'd miss. this new version of gold is really making me smile and purple is my next buy.
also, i'm also mixing with Sienna on my monitor buss. i mix with akg 712 headphones via a ross martin d/a. Sienna it's helping me to make better mix choices. that one acustica plug alone has made the biggest difference for me.
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Post by gouge on May 10, 2023 15:45:06 GMT -6
I used to have an orban 418a i used on drums. The way it handled overheads was pretty impressive.
Unfortunatley the potted module failed and with replacement parts non existent it was retired.
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Post by gouge on May 5, 2023 6:35:26 GMT -6
For placement, try the shure beta 181. I’ve never A/B’d to the e22 but I’m awfully curious. They do cost about 1/3 as much though. The ATM450 by audio technica is even smaller but I kinda hate how they sound. That said, I still keep a pair around for tight spots. A good old SM98 is killer in tight spots also I ended up selling my atm450 because I hated how it sounded too. Are the beta mics crispy like the atm450? oktava I’ll have to try. Has a lower freq push I like. . I’d like to find something with a small push around 250hz would also like to try a dpa 2011c mic as well.
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Post by gouge on May 4, 2023 21:03:08 GMT -6
You gotta stop... i cant afford this.
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Post by gouge on May 3, 2023 1:50:27 GMT -6
Hi ben.
How tight would you say the card fet polar pattern is?
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Post by gouge on May 2, 2023 17:25:03 GMT -6
Tell ya what i want, what i really really want
An e22s.
However ive got 2 oktavas (good suggestion as i like on toms) so im thinking the swivel may be worth a try to get a different angle.
Has anyone used the swivel? Think i read somewhere it affected the tone?
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Post by gouge on May 2, 2023 15:36:16 GMT -6
Wooh. Dont come a knockin when windows start poppin.
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Post by gouge on May 2, 2023 7:26:16 GMT -6
I’m on the hunt for a snare mic that’s small for when space between the hats and snare gets tight.
has anyone used the 12 gauge silver on snare and have thoughts on how it sounds.
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Post by gouge on May 2, 2023 6:56:34 GMT -6
Surprised no mention of the new BeesNeez mics
they’ve released their BC12A fet and tube. Seems like even with all the mics on the market Ben has managed to provide something traditional but with a unique twist.
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Post by gouge on May 1, 2023 7:12:21 GMT -6
So what’s everyone using to split the signal into multiple amps when trying to get fatter tones
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Post by gouge on Apr 30, 2023 16:29:10 GMT -6
Thx for the heads up Copperx. I wasn’t aware of the Lindell. A great option.
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