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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 22, 2019 11:30:17 GMT -6
I prefer more transparency than having a lot of weight added, so maybe this might be a good piece for me down the road a bit
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 22, 2019 11:35:12 GMT -6
I prefer more transparency than having a lot of weight added, so maybe this might be a good piece for me down the road a bit If you prefer transparency, there are far more transparent pieces than the V-comp. I don't want you to think that I am suggesting the V-comp is a transparent piece. That's not how I would describe it. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Mar 22, 2019 11:43:08 GMT -6
I don’t think I would want any more thickness than what the V-Comp added. And I didn’t really hear it adding any top - which was different than my experiences with the Retros. Weird. Wonder if the tubes being different makes that big a difference. Tubes can make things gooey or effervescent etc. Big diff between makes and types. I need some ooey gooey in my life. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 22, 2019 14:23:09 GMT -6
I prefer more transparency than having a lot of weight added, so maybe this might be a good piece for me down the road a bit If you like more transparent, I don't know if the V-Comp is the ticket...I'd probably go for the AS 1176 or Opto...I mean, everything is going to have some stamp on it, but this is pretty flavorful. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Mar 22, 2019 14:28:07 GMT -6
Also check the Hairball rev F 1176. Described as clean but just puts a nice sheen on things.
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 22, 2019 14:43:22 GMT -6
I have the Hairball FET500 revF. They are pretty transparent but still not super clean. If you want really clean a VCA compressor is the answer usually.
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Post by geoff738 on Mar 22, 2019 16:36:35 GMT -6
I have the Hairball FET500 revF. They are pretty transparent but still not super clean. If you want really clean a VCA compressor is the answer usually. Getting a bit off topic but the Aphex units, particularly if modded by Jim Williams get good reviews and can be had for low dollars. Can’t remember offhand the model names or numbers- Compellor or Expressor, 651 or 661? Just going off the top of my head. Could be way off. I’m sure a search here would turn up the details or someone will chime in. ok, back to the Audioscape V. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by drbill on Mar 22, 2019 17:46:36 GMT -6
I have the Hairball FET500 revF. They are pretty transparent but still not super clean. If you want really clean a VCA compressor is the answer usually. Getting a bit off topic but the Aphex units, particularly if modded by Jim Williams get good reviews and can be had for low dollars. Can’t remember offhand the model names or numbers- Compellor or Expressor, 651 or 661? Just going off the top of my head. Could be way off. I’m sure a search here would turn up the details or someone will chime in. ok, back to the Audioscape V. Cheers, Geoff 651 / 661 |
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 22, 2019 17:56:37 GMT -6
Getting a bit off topic but the Aphex units, particularly if modded by Jim Williams get good reviews and can be had for low dollars. Can’t remember offhand the model names or numbers- Compellor or Expressor, 651 or 661? Just going off the top of my head. Could be way off. I’m sure a search here would turn up the details or someone will chime in. ok, back to the Audioscape V. Cheers, Geoff 651 / 661 Yes, I have a pair of 651’s modded by Jim Williams. They are transparent. They are cheap. They are great. |
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 23, 2019 7:55:27 GMT -6
This V-Comp is nice. Might be a keeper. I may amend my previous statement and say that it’s top end seems more rolled off than my other comps. Still learning the piece. The BG2 has a certain saturation/thickness to it in American mode, but sounds more refined in the British mode. Plus, either the meter of the BG2 or V-Comp is not correct. The BG2 says 5-7db of compression yet sounds way more compressed than the V-comps 10-15db of compression. Maybe it’s a little of both.
I threw in the IGS Tubecore against the other 2. Wow. I think it sounds the most elegant and detailed. I really like that one the best.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 23, 2019 8:22:47 GMT -6
You have the 3U Tubecore? Hadn’t seen that...looks sexy.
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 23, 2019 9:10:13 GMT -6
I want the compressor bad for mastering. Looks awesome. Love the controls and M/S capabilities
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 23, 2019 9:55:16 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 23, 2019 10:16:37 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 23, 2019 13:59:39 GMT -6
I want the compressor bad for mastering. Looks awesome. Love the controls and M/S capabilities No kidding. |
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Post by mike on Mar 24, 2019 20:28:44 GMT -6
I can post sound sound file when I get a bit more time. Working on a singer songwriter track, so maybe I can process one with the Vcomp, one with the BG2, one with a Chandler RS124, and one with the 1176/LA2A combo? Hey Indie, out of all of the comps from your nice compressor collection I'm curious to know, if you could only keep one for tracking male vocals, which one would it be ? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 25, 2019 18:59:38 GMT -6
Just got to use this on my own vocals in a song and I freaking love it.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 25, 2019 19:21:36 GMT -6
I can post sound sound file when I get a bit more time. Working on a singer songwriter track, so maybe I can process one with the Vcomp, one with the BG2, one with a Chandler RS124, and one with the 1176/LA2A combo? Hey Indie, out of all of the comps from your nice compressor collection I'm curious to know, if you could only keep one for tracking male vocals, which one would it be ? Hmmm...not sure I would classify compressors based on gender, I’d say more genre or even song depending. But, I do have a male vocal (singer-songwriter) that I can process verse/chorus through some compressors and post up here. I’ve got to finish up another project I’m in the middle of. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 25, 2019 20:21:35 GMT -6
Funny you should say that. I've always been curious about the 3A. When I listened to well done shootouts, I preferred the CL1B and then the Retro 176. I don't know what that says about my taste, I should try the UAD LA-3A plug-in sometime, just to see if I like the flavor. There are some very reasonable LA3A copies around... |
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 25, 2019 23:32:40 GMT -6
Funny you should say that. I've always been curious about the 3A. When I listened to well done shootouts, I preferred the CL1B and then the Retro 176. I don't know what that says about my taste, I should try the UAD LA-3A plug-in sometime, just to see if I like the flavor. There are some very reasonable LA3A copies around... part of the reason I say LA-3A is because of comments you’ve made re: what you want a vocal compressor to sound like. The other part of why I say LA-3A is based on observations I’ve made of you from various threads where you allude to striving for simplicity. An 1176 can obviously sound great on a vocal. So can a Cl1b. But when I’m tracking my own vocal, I oftentimes prefer a 2-knob compressor like a 2A or 3A. It’s just simpler, and I have enough other stuff to be thinking about, like the performance. Now, in mixing, it’s a different game: there’s plenty of time to try out ideas, like how much to compress. But when tracking myself, I like to simplify where I can. I suspect you might feel the same way. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 8, 2019 17:48:05 GMT -6
Holy crap, I really love this thing. Just killing it in single mode tracking vox. I’ll throw up a sample.
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Post by seawell on Apr 8, 2019 18:33:11 GMT -6
Holy crap, I really love this thing. Just killing it in single mode tracking vox. I’ll throw up a sample. That's awesome! Same class as the Retro in your opinion? |
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Post by Mister Chase on Apr 8, 2019 18:35:51 GMT -6
Holy crap, I really love this thing. Just killing it in single mode tracking vox. I’ll throw up a sample. There is definitely something going around. Feel better. |
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Post by 000 on Apr 8, 2019 18:40:45 GMT -6
Holy crap, I really love this thing. Just killing it in single mode tracking vox. I’ll throw up a sample. That's awesome! Same class as the Retro in your opinion? If this holds up next to the Sta Level - it’s pretty much a no brainer got-to-buy-it. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 8, 2019 19:06:59 GMT -6
Well, going back and listening. I TOTALLY over-compressed going in...doh. So it's a little hairy at the peaks...still learning. Nothing that can't be dealt with - and I'm not sure you will even hear it in the end product. And that can be the issue with the sta-level. Man, I'd love to have both side by side. I might text Chris or Bowie about NOS tube swaps to see which tubes might have higher headroom. I'm not really sure which tubes are responsible for the input gain... EmRR you know? I was going into the comp with proper gain staging. I might just have to learn this one specifically. Maybe Double mode with lower input. |
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