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Post by jgabriel on May 3, 2023 13:08:03 GMT -6
alright official words arrived ! tnx stam hopefully someone who has received one and participates in the forums will show up singing its praises! can only imagine the amount of effort it takes to create something of this caliber at the affordable price cheers
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Post by niklas1073 on May 8, 2023 8:25:12 GMT -6
I have to throw in a question here regarding the 670 or clones and especially stam since it’s an available one and though expensive in money but seem very competitive pricewise.
I have always been a huge fan of the 670 and use the uad plugin a lot. But since I began using an igs tubecore in the mix bus and in mastering, I achieved an instant boldness and fatness (in lack of better words) I was always looking for in the fairchild plugins, but never could achieve.
You guys who have run both the plugin and hw versions, can you see what i am going for? Does the hardware 670 offer a similar experience? I’m just very interested since my goal is looking into hw 670’s at some point.
I am well aware that a tubecore is a very different comp than the 670, therefore I don’t want to compare them as such, only the full bodied experience I always looked for in the 670 plugins. I cannot put my finger exactly on the difference either in terms of frequency response etc as I cannot replicate it digitally how much i try. I can come close but the final body is just on a different level with the hw.
Basically I guess I try to figure out if the hw 670 is worth the investment for me, since that’ish sound is a staple for me. I am super happy with the tubecore, no question about it… but would I be happier with adding a 670 in the master chain as an addition?
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Post by Darren Boling on May 8, 2023 9:31:11 GMT -6
I have to throw in a question here regarding the 670 or clones and especially stam since it’s an available one and though expensive in money but seem very competitive pricewise. I have always been a huge fan of the 670 and use the uad plugin a lot. But since I began using an igs tubecore in the mix bus and in mastering, I achieved an instant boldness and fatness (in lack of better words) I was always looking for in the fairchild plugins, but never could achieve. You guys who have run both the plugin and hw versions, can you see what i am going for? Does the hardware 670 offer a similar experience? I’m just very interested since my goal is looking into hw 670’s at some point. I am well aware that a tubecore is a very different comp than the 670, therefore I don’t want to compare them as such, only the full bodied experience I always looked for in the 670 plugins. I cannot put my finger exactly on the difference either in terms of frequency response etc as I cannot replicate it digitally how much i try. I can come close but the final body is just on a different level with the hw. Basically I guess I try to figure out if the hw 670 is worth the investment for me, since that’ish sound is a staple for me. I am super happy with the tubecore, no question about it… but would I be happier with adding a 670 in the master chain as an addition? If you want to process something with the UAD 670 and send the settings I can match the Anamod 660's via Plugin Doc and run thru them, you can at least hear what these do. I don't have any of the other Fairchild options. One thing I noticed is when I added old UTC A21's before and Triad HS-66's after the Anamods it became much more interesting (I called this setup my Fauxchild).
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Post by stam on May 8, 2023 13:18:48 GMT -6
I have to throw in a question here regarding the 670 or clones and especially stam since it’s an available one and though expensive in money but seem very competitive pricewise. I have always been a huge fan of the 670 and use the uad plugin a lot. But since I began using an igs tubecore in the mix bus and in mastering, I achieved an instant boldness and fatness (in lack of better words) I was always looking for in the fairchild plugins, but never could achieve. You guys who have run both the plugin and hw versions, can you see what i am going for? Does the hardware 670 offer a similar experience? I’m just very interested since my goal is looking into hw 670’s at some point. I am well aware that a tubecore is a very different comp than the 670, therefore I don’t want to compare them as such, only the full bodied experience I always looked for in the 670 plugins. I cannot put my finger exactly on the difference either in terms of frequency response etc as I cannot replicate it digitally how much i try. I can come close but the final body is just on a different level with the hw. Basically I guess I try to figure out if the hw 670 is worth the investment for me, since that’ish sound is a staple for me. I am super happy with the tubecore, no question about it… but would I be happier with adding a 670 in the master chain as an addition? There is indeed a low mid saturation present on the 670 (specially if the HS-52 as been well replicated) that I can't get with plugins either. I know exactly what you mean! If you message me I am happy to send you a B stock Stamchild I have here for a friendly price, it's quite pristine, minor scratches on chassis but other than that it works and sounds flawlessly
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Post by niklas1073 on May 8, 2023 13:26:08 GMT -6
I have to throw in a question here regarding the 670 or clones and especially stam since it’s an available one and though expensive in money but seem very competitive pricewise. I have always been a huge fan of the 670 and use the uad plugin a lot. But since I began using an igs tubecore in the mix bus and in mastering, I achieved an instant boldness and fatness (in lack of better words) I was always looking for in the fairchild plugins, but never could achieve. You guys who have run both the plugin and hw versions, can you see what i am going for? Does the hardware 670 offer a similar experience? I’m just very interested since my goal is looking into hw 670’s at some point. I am well aware that a tubecore is a very different comp than the 670, therefore I don’t want to compare them as such, only the full bodied experience I always looked for in the 670 plugins. I cannot put my finger exactly on the difference either in terms of frequency response etc as I cannot replicate it digitally how much i try. I can come close but the final body is just on a different level with the hw. Basically I guess I try to figure out if the hw 670 is worth the investment for me, since that’ish sound is a staple for me. I am super happy with the tubecore, no question about it… but would I be happier with adding a 670 in the master chain as an addition? If you want to process something with the UAD 670 and send the settings I can match the Anamod 660's via Plugin Doc and run thru them, you can at least hear what these do. I don't have any of the other Fairchild options. One thing I noticed is when I added old UTC A21's before and Triad HS-66's after the Anamods it became much more interesting (I called this setup my Fauxchild). Thanks fo the offer. I might get back on that when I have a suitable track i can use as a good a/b.
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Post by niklas1073 on May 8, 2023 13:27:10 GMT -6
I have to throw in a question here regarding the 670 or clones and especially stam since it’s an available one and though expensive in money but seem very competitive pricewise. I have always been a huge fan of the 670 and use the uad plugin a lot. But since I began using an igs tubecore in the mix bus and in mastering, I achieved an instant boldness and fatness (in lack of better words) I was always looking for in the fairchild plugins, but never could achieve. You guys who have run both the plugin and hw versions, can you see what i am going for? Does the hardware 670 offer a similar experience? I’m just very interested since my goal is looking into hw 670’s at some point. I am well aware that a tubecore is a very different comp than the 670, therefore I don’t want to compare them as such, only the full bodied experience I always looked for in the 670 plugins. I cannot put my finger exactly on the difference either in terms of frequency response etc as I cannot replicate it digitally how much i try. I can come close but the final body is just on a different level with the hw. Basically I guess I try to figure out if the hw 670 is worth the investment for me, since that’ish sound is a staple for me. I am super happy with the tubecore, no question about it… but would I be happier with adding a 670 in the master chain as an addition? There is indeed a low mid saturation present on the 670 (specially if the HS-52 as been well replicated) that I can't get with plugins either. I know exactly what you mean! If you message me I am happy to send you a B stock Stamchild I have here for a friendly price, it's quite pristine, minor scratches on chassis but other than that it works and sounds flawlessly Thank you very much for the offer. I’ll message you.
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Post by Ward on May 10, 2023 12:12:39 GMT -6
SNIP There is indeed a low mid saturation present on the 670 (specially if the HS-52 as been well replicated) that I can't get with plugins either. I know exactly what you mean! If you message me I am happy to send you a B stock Stamchild I have here for a friendly price, it's quite pristine, minor scratches on chassis but other than that it works and sounds flawlessly I'm about to get a bunch of vexed DMs for giving away an inside tip, but there's a reason why we cut some 250-400hz before hitting a 660/670. Duh.
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Post by stam on May 11, 2023 15:00:26 GMT -6
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 12, 2023 18:15:55 GMT -6
I can't wait to hear something she does with it.
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Post by copperx on May 12, 2023 18:32:56 GMT -6
I can't wait to hear something she does with it. How does she use the Fairchild?
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 12, 2023 19:34:11 GMT -6
I have no idea, she just posted a video of it being rack mounted below her main desk. I would expect it to be the same as with a Fairchild compressor, vocals for sure. Massey likes to innovate though, so you never know what she'll come up with next.
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Post by shakermaker on May 12, 2023 20:15:03 GMT -6
LOVE mine, upgraded from the MKI and the extra features are amazing and it sounds incredible. The DC threshold addition is really cool, gives it a ton of flexibility.
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Post by Ward on May 17, 2023 22:53:15 GMT -6
LOVE mine, upgraded from the MKI and the extra features are amazing and it sounds incredible. The DC threshold addition is really cool, gives it a ton of flexibility. Can you elaborate on the extra flexibility of the DC offset?
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Post by shakermaker on May 18, 2023 9:26:59 GMT -6
LOVE mine, upgraded from the MKI and the extra features are amazing and it sounds incredible. The DC threshold addition is really cool, gives it a ton of flexibility. Can you elaborate on the extra flexibility of the DC offset? Yeah, I'm not even sure of the specific technical aspects of what it does tbh, I just found it helps when using on the mix bus or when I want more transparency and it to be less grabby. The wet/dry along with the DC threshold really makes the MKII special, you can get some light touches going for mixbus or subtler applications, makes it really flexible but its def more fun slamming the fk out of it on the drum parallel bus lol This is the explanation in the stam manual , cool! makes sense 2.10 DC THRESHOLD This is with no doubt the most important control on the SA-670 MK2, which extends the sonic features of the unit to unlimited possibilities. The DC Threshold can be seen as a “COMP/LIMIT” control, changing at the same time the threshold at which the gain reduction takes place, and the way the gain reduction is applied. In other words you are changing Threshold, Ratio and Knee at the same time. Low DC Threshold values (fully CCW) implies low threshold, low ratio, soft knee (COMPRESSION) High DC Threshold values (fully CW) implies high threshold, high ratio, hard knee (LIMITING) We suggest starting with DC Threshold on position 3 or 4 and from there start experimenting with your favorite tone. For a deeper understanding of this feature we publish a snippet of the original Fairchild 670 compression curves.
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Post by jmf1928 on Mar 18, 2024 2:46:26 GMT -6
MKI user here. Wondering if a 6BA6W is a suitable replacement to purchase as a spare. Want to have a couple in reserve and see mil-spec GE 6BA6W as relatively inexpensive.
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Post by stam on Jun 1, 2024 7:04:18 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 1, 2024 8:30:19 GMT -6
SNIP There is indeed a low mid saturation present on the 670 (specially if the HS-52 as been well replicated) that I can't get with plugins either. I know exactly what you mean! If you message me I am happy to send you a B stock Stamchild I have here for a friendly price, it's quite pristine, minor scratches on chassis but other than that it works and sounds flawlessly I'm about to get a bunch of vexed DMs for giving away an inside tip, but there's a reason why we cut some 250-400hz before hitting a 660/670. Duh. I don’t really hear a buildup at 250-400 on my Stam 660…I find it pretty neutral.
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Post by Ward on Jun 2, 2024 17:59:30 GMT -6
I'm about to get a bunch of vexed DMs for giving away an inside tip, but there's a reason why we cut some 250-400hz before hitting a 660/670. Duh. I don’t really hear a buildup at 250-400 on my Stam 660…I find it pretty neutral. Not really a surprise to hear a boutique builder like stam would address the problem that sometimes occurs! Improving on a classic design is something I admire in a bunch of boutique builders.
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