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Post by indiehouse on Aug 12, 2021 18:20:59 GMT -6
Wish I could hear just one sample of this crushing a drum loop in release setting 1. I can try to process something. It’s just so transparent that I don’t know if it’s going to crush drums. |
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Post by drsax on Aug 13, 2021 0:50:44 GMT -6
tried it on Saxophone as well since my original post. Just gorgeous. That also tells me this is gonna slay on vocals. Compressors that are great on vocals tend to be the best compressors for saxophone as well, and inversely, it goes both ways. This thing is very very nice Hi drsax: Tried the Stam 670 on vocals yet? Any new comments? Thank you very much! yes… it’s absolutely stunning on vocals |
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Post by stam on Aug 13, 2021 8:53:23 GMT -6
Thanks man!!
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Post by drsax on Aug 13, 2021 11:17:05 GMT -6
It will crush drums. But keep in mind that it’s a remake of a Fairchild, not an 1176.
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 13, 2021 11:59:56 GMT -6
It will crush drums. But keep in mind that it’s a remake of a Fairchild, not an 1176. Right. I guess when I think of drum crushing, I think of the 1176 type of "crushing". |
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Post by EmRR on Aug 13, 2021 12:03:02 GMT -6
Oh God, it’s too good and artifact free….
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Post by seawell on Aug 13, 2021 12:10:08 GMT -6
I need one of these....sigh....one day.
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Post by soundintheround on Aug 13, 2021 12:49:39 GMT -6
It will crush drums. But keep in mind that it’s a remake of a Fairchild, not an 1176. Right. I guess when I think of drum crushing, I think of the 1176 type of "crushing". I mean like a Beatles - She Said She Said crush. |
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 13, 2021 19:21:49 GMT -6
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Post by the other mark williams on Aug 13, 2021 22:12:13 GMT -6
Right. I guess when I think of drum crushing, I think of the 1176 type of "crushing". I mean like a Beatles - She Said She Said crush. Lord have mercy you are speaking my language my man. |
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Post by drsax on Aug 15, 2021 9:58:40 GMT -6
Seriously, it’s a Fairchild clone… it’s not too clean
and artifact free. But it’s not a colored FET compressor. You can really squash with this thing, and get a vintage type result. Like most compressors, this thing can violate a track if used agressively or it can be be subtle. But, it does tend to do it’s job with elegance and beauty.
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Post by soundintheround on Aug 15, 2021 11:39:26 GMT -6
Seriously, it’s a Fairchild clone… it’s not too clean and artifact free. But it’s not a colored FET compressor. You can really squash with this thing, and get a vintage type result. Like most compressors, this thing can violate a track if used agressively or it can be be subtle. But, it does tend to do it’s job with elegance and beauty. Problem is Ive never really heard a Fairchild in the wild before....I’m most familiar with the UAD plugin if anything. Does it have the same attack/release behavior when punishing drums at 10-15 db? |
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Post by christopher on Aug 15, 2021 11:56:57 GMT -6
I’ve never used one but this video I think shows off what it can do. Pro mastering has been using them forever to give a little more roundness. Even techno.
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Post by drsax on Aug 15, 2021 12:18:50 GMT -6
I’d say you can get it in the ballpark of the drums on the Beatles song you mentioned…. if your drum tracks are recorded to sound similar. As I hear that recording, it has way less to do with compression and way more to do with the original source, and the room. Fairchild compressors are popular because they just work. No fuss. Put something through it and it almost always sounds better. Even with little to no compression. It doesn’t destroy the high end or low end… and when you over compress with it, it is more forgiving than most compressors… and the audio is going through lots of tubes, so it does give that slightly “bubbly” tubey vibe that Fairchilds are known for, without sacrificing the source. That’s why fairchilds and good Fairchild clones are so sought after. Used properly, they can be a big time saver and sound fantastic. Early in my career I tried several very expensive tube compressors that were known to be very transparent. I bought a couple of them and wasn’t immediately floored by what they did. Because at that point in my career I was looking for some thing that would really alter the sound. At this point in my career, I see the incredible value and amazing characteristics of those compressors. But it took me years of trying lots of different gear to understand what their value was. Something being transparent or artifact free is incredible, but it may not be what everyone is always looking to put on a track. The Fairchild covers quite a bit of ground, and it does have a sweetness to the high end, and a richness to the mids, and the lows stay tight. But it is most definitely not the same as crushing rock drums through an 1176, a SSL, a Distressor, or an API, etc…
P.S. I don’t personally find the Fairchild to be transparent per se. It’s compression action is fairly transparent, and it is not overly colored, but it brings a richness and sweetness to the sound that I find particularly useful
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Post by drsax on Aug 15, 2021 12:25:02 GMT -6
If you try the plug-in versions of these compressors, they will give you an idea of how they react and what each of those compressor types sounds like, but to me, the attack and release times on plug-ins tend to react differently to me than hardware. Hardware with good quality conversion is something special. The hardware versions are similar but superior in my opinion, and I use a lot of plug-ins.
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Post by jgabriel on May 2, 2023 12:15:41 GMT -6
anybody have the new StamChild SA-660 yet ? i've put down a deposit and curious =] also considering the new drip electronics but that will have to be built (by a pro tech) and probably cost about twice the price
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Post by jacobamerritt on May 2, 2023 12:46:17 GMT -6
anybody have the new StamChild SA-660 yet ? i've put down a deposit and curious =] also considering the new drip electronics but that will have to be built (by a pro tech) and probably cost about twice the price Just get one from POM. Here's the link. A few guys here can vouch for the quality and service. Price is comparable. www.fairchild-recording-equipment.com/PriceList2023/ |
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Post by seawell on May 2, 2023 13:29:17 GMT -6
anybody have the new StamChild SA-660 yet ? i've put down a deposit and curious =] also considering the new drip electronics but that will have to be built (by a pro tech) and probably cost about twice the price Just get one from POM. Here's the link. A few guys here can vouch for the quality and service. Price is comparable. www.fairchild-recording-equipment.com/PriceList2023/Does POM make a 660? |
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Post by jgabriel on May 2, 2023 14:20:59 GMT -6
yea im only in need of one mono channel, personally - don't see that on pom's page
for tracking =]
love the idea that the stamchild can hold up for the price (but can't seem to find reports anywhere)
but part of me thinks the drip will be worth the additional cost
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Post by Blackdawg on May 2, 2023 16:36:29 GMT -6
anybody have the new StamChild SA-660 yet ? i've put down a deposit and curious =] also considering the new drip electronics but that will have to be built (by a pro tech) and probably cost about twice the price I've had a deposit down on a 660 since 2021. Think I've seen 3 photos of them getting put together but they never seem to actually make them and ship them. |
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Post by jgabriel on May 2, 2023 18:14:38 GMT -6
hmm well that's bit of a wait aint it !
they did return my email within a day saying : We are waiting for some parts of the SA660 to continue with the production and once they are ready, we will contact you to complete the pending balance and arrange shipment.
but also just got off the phone w a tech who has experience building the drip, and estimated cost is in the $5/6k range after all parts and labor...
so reckon ill sit back and wait a bit before making any decisions heh
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Post by Blackdawg on May 2, 2023 18:57:23 GMT -6
hmm well that's bit of a wait aint it ! they did return my email within a day saying : We are waiting for some parts of the SA660 to continue with the production and once they are ready, we will contact you to complete the pending balance and arrange shipment. but also just got off the phone w a tech who has experience building the drip, and estimated cost is in the $5/6k range after all parts and labor... so reckon ill sit back and wait a bit before making any decisions heh I've heard that 3 times now. Still waiting. I don't think they have ever shipped even 1. |
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Post by jgabriel on May 3, 2023 7:58:32 GMT -6
heh well alrighty then ! it also seems too good to be true at the price point no? just the parts for the drip 660 are amounting to nearly $3k ... i guess there's different ways to approach the design of course, but yeah wondering if im putting my chips on the right horse so to speak
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Post by kcatthedog on May 3, 2023 8:37:38 GMT -6
Well Josh ultimately delivers or you can request a full refund at anytime.
I agree more disclosure about status of SA660 is needed.
But, personally, if i had one ordered, I’d be hanging in there.
If they can produce the 670 mki and ii, why not the 660 ?
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Post by stam on May 3, 2023 8:47:46 GMT -6
anybody have the new StamChild SA-660 yet ? i've put down a deposit and curious =] also considering the new drip electronics but that will have to be built (by a pro tech) and probably cost about twice the price I've had a deposit down on a 660 since 2021. Think I've seen 3 photos of them getting put together but they never seem to actually make them and ship them. We have shipped quite a few of them but it has been an issue the past year to make more than a few a month for many reasons. I would suggest to get a refund and once they are ready I'll email you and respect the pre-order price you got it for originally. I think that would be the best solution for now so you keep the price you locked it at and don't have to wait for it. |
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