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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 19, 2014 17:16:56 GMT -6
I've gotta say - I'm really really liking this. I've warmed up to the 1176 a lot. The input, attack and release are different than I'm used to on other plugs...but once I started getting a feel for that, it has proved just as effective as the UAD stuff. The EQ's are really hard to tell for me, though. Haven't gone in depth with both 1073's...I initially thought the UAD stuff was substantially better, but the more I use this, the more I'm figuring out it's nuances. Love how the frequency ranges on the Slate 1073 aren't detented. You can go in between. I don't need this, but I could see buying it at this price. The convenience of the rack is awesome.
The aggressive bass preset - using the 1176 (which I absolutely wouldn't have gone to first on bass) - is freaking fantastic.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 19, 2014 17:29:35 GMT -6
I've gotta say - I'm really really liking this. I've warmed up to the 1176 a lot. The input, attack and release are different than I'm used to on other plugs...but once I started getting a feel for that, it has proved just as effective as the UAD stuff. The EQ's are really hard to tell for me, though. Haven't gone in depth with both 1073's...I initially thought the UAD stuff was substantially better, but the more I use this, the more I'm figuring out it's nuances. Love how the frequency ranges on the Slate 1073 aren't detented. You can go in between. I don't need this, but I could see buying it at this price. The convenience of the rack is awesome. The aggressive bass preset - using the 1176 (which I absolutely wouldn't have gone to first on bass) - is freaking fantastic. I wonder how long until it's on sale for $99. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 19, 2014 17:41:48 GMT -6
I've gotta say - I'm really really liking this. I've warmed up to the 1176 a lot. The input, attack and release are different than I'm used to on other plugs...but once I started getting a feel for that, it has proved just as effective as the UAD stuff. The EQ's are really hard to tell for me, though. Haven't gone in depth with both 1073's...I initially thought the UAD stuff was substantially better, but the more I use this, the more I'm figuring out it's nuances. Love how the frequency ranges on the Slate 1073 aren't detented. You can go in between. I don't need this, but I could see buying it at this price. The convenience of the rack is awesome. The aggressive bass preset - using the 1176 (which I absolutely wouldn't have gone to first on bass) - is freaking fantastic. I wonder how long until it's on sale for $99. January? |
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Post by wiz on Nov 19, 2014 17:48:49 GMT -6
its 149 I think
cheers
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Post by henge on Nov 19, 2014 18:14:44 GMT -6
Generally I'm finding the ssl eq to be great a bringing things forward and the neve eq to sits stuff back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 19:14:08 GMT -6
Generally I'm finding the ssl eq to be great a bringing things forward and the neve eq to sits stuff back. That's interesting |
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Post by bentley on Nov 19, 2014 20:25:24 GMT -6
Enjoying Revival far more than I should. Everything else sounds great but Revival certainly adds a bit of something unique.
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Post by popmann on Nov 20, 2014 18:06:32 GMT -6
the irony in giving away Revival....is that when looking at the offerings-before getting to the free part of the video, it's the only one I would care to demo. And apparently, I get to keep that? Cool. Hope it's neat as it looks. Does explain what I wondered when he first announced this-- "why no Pultec?"
Re: the UI....yes, I've brought this up before, but now imagine this....on a SurfacePro....right. Open the slot....whole channel takes up the whole touch screen. Put it away.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 20, 2014 18:19:49 GMT -6
So there are two compressors and two EQ's here. I already have Slate's VBC, (3 compressors), UAD's 1176's, La2's, and Pultec's, CLA bundles, Kramer bundles, V Comp bundle, (quite good actually), Puigchild, Puigtec, all the "L's", all the Waves SSL's, API's, Essentially this would be redundant for me I think, except if Slate's Neve style plug equals UAD's 1073 with their Unison Technology, then the rest would be a bonus for me.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 20, 2014 19:25:05 GMT -6
or just grab revival as it free and an interesting exciter!
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2014 20:03:02 GMT -6
So there are two compressors and two EQ's here. I already have Slate's VBC, (3 compressors), UAD's 1176's, La2's, and Pultec's, CLA bundles, Kramer bundles, V Comp bundle, (quite good actually), Puigchild, Puigtec, all the "L's", all the Waves SSL's, API's, Essentially this would be redundant for me I think, except if Slate's Neve style plug equals UAD's 1073 with their Unison Technology, then the rest would be a bonus for me. Well, it is a little redundant, but it's just so convenient. I can see myself buying. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 20, 2014 20:09:17 GMT -6
the irony in giving away Revival....is that when looking at the offerings-before getting to the free part of the video, it's the only one I would care to demo. And apparently, I get to keep that? Cool. Hope it's neat as it looks. Does explain what I wondered when he first announced this-- "why no Pultec?" Re: the UI....yes, I've brought this up before, but now imagine this....on a SurfacePro....right. Open the slot....whole channel takes up the whole touch screen. Put it away. Agreed. Revival looks the best... and free. Can't beat that. I'll probably buy even though I don't need it because I'm a sucker for the Slate marketing. I appreciate how good he is. Total f'in pro. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2014 20:23:34 GMT -6
Yeah...as CHEESY as I think his marketing is, he sucks me in...
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Post by jeromemason on Nov 20, 2014 20:40:28 GMT -6
I used it last night and I was really impressed with the VCA comp and the SSL EQ. I worked on an SSL for years and that emulation is pretty damn close to how it sounds, all the other emu's miss something on the bright attack it adds to a snare, and the Slate version really reminded me a lot of that eq.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Nov 20, 2014 20:49:58 GMT -6
I used it last night and I was really impressed with the VCA comp and the SSL EQ. I worked on an SSL for years and that emulation is pretty damn close to how it sounds, all the other emu's miss something on the bright attack it adds to a snare, and the Slate version really reminded me a lot of that eq. Why'd you have to say that??!! Now I'm gonna have to buy it..... I was thinking along similar lines that it was probably redundant since I already have UAD 1073, 1176, VBC, etc........ but I don't have SSL EQ, and if he nailed that, it's worth the money for that alone right? Especially considering the low CPU usage and not tied to a dsp dongle.......... Bye bye money. Of course I'll demo it first, but I tend to buy almost everything I demo since I'll stick it on a track I'm currently working on, and then I don't want to mess with it once it's sounding good. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 20, 2014 21:02:25 GMT -6
I used it last night and I was really impressed with the VCA comp and the SSL EQ. I worked on an SSL for years and that emulation is pretty damn close to how it sounds, all the other emu's miss something on the bright attack it adds to a snare, and the Slate version really reminded me a lot of that eq. Have you compared to the IK British Channel? |
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Post by geoff738 on Nov 20, 2014 21:04:14 GMT -6
Yeah...as CHEESY as I think his marketing is, he sucks me in... Yeah, me too. I think I have everything but the trigger thingey. I know he rubs people the wrong way sometimes. It is a bit of a heavy handed marketing juggernaut. At the same time, he brings the goods, IMO. And he's not recreating the wheel all the time - he's trying to do some damn innovative stuff. Whether he's able to pull it all off? His batting average is pretty good so far. YMMV. I also don't really see him as a huckster kinda guy - although he can come across that way. I think he's like the proverbial kid in the audio candy store - who is getting to do what he wants, and creating effective, affordable tools for us to use - or not. I kinda see him like a kid whose enthusiasm runneth over. So, take all that with a rather largeish grain of salt and see if the products fit a niche that will add to your studio and way of working. That being said, I haven't really looked at what this thing is. SSL and Neve eqs. What are the comps? And I take it there's a freebie exciter type thingey included? Do I have that right? Cheers. Geoff |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 20, 2014 21:09:49 GMT -6
Yeah...as CHEESY as I think his marketing is, he sucks me in... Yeah, me too. I think I have everything but the trigger thingey. I know he rubs people the wrong way sometimes. It is a bit of a heavy handed marketing juggernaut. At the same time, he brings the goods, IMO. And he's not recreating the wheel all the time - he's trying to do some damn innovative stuff. Whether he's able to pull it all off? His batting average is pretty good so far. YMMV. I also don't really see him as a huckster kinda guy - although he can come across that way. I think he's like the proverbial kid in the audio candy store - who is getting to do what he wants, and creating effective, affordable tools for us to use - or not. I kinda see him like a kid whose enthusiasm runneth over. So, take all that with a rather largeish grain of salt and see if the products fit a niche that will add to your studio and way of working. That being said, I haven't really looked at what this thing is. SSL and Neve eqs. What are the comps? And I take it there's a freebie exciter type thingey included? Do I have that right? Cheers. Geoff SSL Channel Compressor, 1176, Neve and SSL EQ's, and and exciter/EQ. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 20, 2014 21:10:03 GMT -6
1073 with xtr mid band, ssl eq, 1076 comp and fet comp and revival exciter plug and if you want new ilok2 all for $149
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2014 21:10:52 GMT -6
Yeah - SSL, Neve, 1176 and VCA slower compressor.
I was mixing something the other day...then threw VCC Neve on (I hadn't had it on there because I started in PT11)...and man, HUGE difference. Punchier, bigger. Awesome. I can't wait until VCC2 comes out. I really don't use VBC that much, but VCC on every mix.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 21:23:21 GMT -6
VCC on every mix here too. I was trying to get into the other models but when I hit the Neve model, the bottom instantly comes together. It saves me a lot of time EQ'ing the bottom just right.
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Post by geoff738 on Nov 20, 2014 21:32:05 GMT -6
Thanks guys!
I've never been in a place that had an SSL (maybe the place BNLs and Rush did some stuff between Queen and Eastern east of the Don on McKee IIRC? It's been gone a long time though), and if I had, I certainly wasn't manning the beast. I'm more a Tascam/Fostex/Adat budget kinda dude.
So I take it that the SSL is a Vca and kinda it's own take on that? I've used lots, but certainly not the whole line, of the dbx stuff (and I still have the bottom of the line dbx 266, which isn't even effective as a doorstop), and my only quality vca comp is the Overstayer. Noah S likes his - good enough for me.
I have the Warm, but it ain't stereo, so that could be interesting.
If anybody who has worked with real 1073s or modern takes on it (or has spent some time with the UAD one) can chime in with your thoughts, I think there may be a few folks here who would be interested in hearing what you have to say.
Thanks again,
Geoff
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Post by jeromemason on Nov 20, 2014 21:43:55 GMT -6
Like I was saying, when it comes to the SSL eq, when using the board there was something it would do special to a snare when you would bell the HF and crank it at around 8k. Also, the SSL was really good at 1.5k on the snare to give it some cut, kind of a narrowish Q, every emu I've used and I think I've used just about every single one has never really done that, this one does. I always loved the SSL eq on snare, I never went OTB when I eq'd the snare on the console because it's almost like that eq was perfect for snare drums. The LF is really similar as well, it gives the 200hz thud something that no other eq I've used has ever done, and, just like the rest of this emu it does that. So, I have to conclude IMO this is the best emu of the SSL eq I've ever heard.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Nov 20, 2014 21:49:32 GMT -6
Like I was saying, when it comes to the SSL eq, when using the board there was something it would do special to a snare when you would bell the HF and crank it at around 8k. Also, the SSL was really good at 1.5k on the snare to give it some cut, kind of a narrowish Q, every emu I've used and I think I've used just about every single one has never really done that, this one does. I always loved the SSL eq on snare, I never went OTB when I eq'd the snare on the console because it's almost like that eq was perfect for snare drums. The LF is really similar as well, it gives the 200hz thud something that no other eq I've used has ever done, and, just like the rest of this emu it does that. So, I have to conclude IMO this is the best emu of the SSL eq I've ever heard. Thanks for the specifics -- that'll give me something to play with and compare.  |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 20, 2014 21:57:08 GMT -6
geoff, the UAD 1073 is scary good, their Unison technology makes a big difference. I've only used the Waves SSL plug, which is dark when compared to the API. I often end up with API on instruments, and SSL on vocals.
I have used SSL boards in studios often enough to recognize their sonic signature, and the Waves plug is OK, but a little flat. If I had to describe a real SSL board, I'd say they have the strongest impact, the tone is quite balanced, so it feels like a mixed martial arts punch in the chest, and it's huge sounding, if that makes sense. My guess is that's probably from a little bump in the low end somewhere or simply a better transmission of the low end, and it works beautifully.
I was at a mixing session for James Blunt and also for Neo, where the SSL was being used for a show featuring live in the studio performances. The SSL sounded better than whatever James Blunt used on his first album, by far. The Neo tracks just kicked ass.
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