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Post by Guitar on Aug 9, 2015 9:53:31 GMT -6
One day we will all own an API console, haha.
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Post by noah shain on Aug 9, 2015 9:57:33 GMT -6
I just noticed my avatar.
I didn't make that avatar.
There's a ghost in the machine.
Hahahahahah!
Love it
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 10:20:51 GMT -6
Thanks for the test Noah.very exciting for us 1608 owners
Now you guys got me thinking about fixing mine up!
cant wait to hear the files.
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Post by sll on Aug 9, 2015 10:37:41 GMT -6
Nice work Jeff. It really cleaned things up. The low end is tighter and more defined. I had a hard time understanding the vocals on the stock sound file. Mix sounded slightly darker and frequencies were competing with the vox, a smeared sound. The modded version opened that up.
I hear the same thing with the Legacy consoles. They are not bad, but once you hear a vintage one, you wish for that sound.
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Post by noah shain on Aug 9, 2015 11:22:34 GMT -6
Thanks for the test Noah.very exciting for us 1608 owners Now you guys got me thinking about fixing mine up! cant wait to hear the files. Curious to hear your thoughts roundbadge You've been on your 1608 for a while and probably know it so well. It was you that got me thinking about modding it in the first place! |
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Post by jsteiger on Aug 9, 2015 11:29:48 GMT -6
Thanks for the test Noah.very exciting for us 1608 owners Now you guys got me thinking about fixing mine up! cant wait to hear the files. Curious to hear your thoughts roundbadge You've been on your 1608 for a while and probably know it so well. It was you that got me thinking about modding it in the first place! Aren't you guys in the same area? I know LA is big and not easy to navigate. |
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 11:50:04 GMT -6
Yes I'm in MT Washington near Atwater Village/Glendale
Jeff do you think modding channels myself would be difficult?
I'm an ok solderer..not great though.
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Post by jsteiger on Aug 9, 2015 11:53:02 GMT -6
Yes I'm in MT Washington near Atwater Village/Glendale Jeff do you think modding channels myself would be difficult? I'm an ok solderer..not great though. Its not that hard IMO but I do a ton of soldering and desoldering. A good desoldering tool is a must. Not a cheap shit solder pump but something more like a Hakko 808. |
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 11:55:17 GMT -6
I have firlotte 600's on the mix buss/control room monitors as well..definitely went to a more high fi sound than vintage.
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 11:59:05 GMT -6
yeah I have the crappy pump..hate that dang thing. haha
maybe I could have you do a couple then I'd have some properly done examples in hand?
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 12:01:54 GMT -6
modding the actual mix buss with these parts though!..exciting.
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Post by jsteiger on Aug 9, 2015 12:15:51 GMT -6
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 12:17:05 GMT -6
geekfest yaya!!
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 9, 2015 12:24:02 GMT -6
ive never actually tried the Blue Dots. sll what's your take? |
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 12:30:17 GMT -6
isnt the blue dot equal to the newer current API stuff?
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Post by noah shain on Aug 9, 2015 13:17:12 GMT -6
Hey roundbadge I'm gonna move forward with more of these mods, hopefully including the ACA groups and mix bus. It took me all of a verse played back through the channels to know that it is a STELLAR mod and a large improvement. I'm gonna try and do the work myself. We should stay in touch. My spot is in DTLA. We ain't far apart. |
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 13:49:23 GMT -6
Awesome Noah!
I'm on location till this evening.
I look forward to critical listening of your files.
lets stay in touch.love to see your place sometime.
I'm free after next week.
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Post by ericn on Aug 9, 2015 14:12:13 GMT -6
I think it's probably the transformers taming the transients and then the roll off of tape...I have to say those Firlotte FC600's or whatever they're called seemed very sharp and "hi-fi" to me. Throw some of those red dots on there! I'm now a believer. I'm gonna do it ASAP. Need Litz stock...JS! I pulled the ACA board and there they are...8 trafos and 8 op amps. I'm gonna hit API for schematics and see if JS won't coach me on what else we should swap out. I'm hooked. I had more fun mixing last night than I have in months. The 440b might have had something to do with it too;) Good luck with getting the schematic they act like its the holy grail! |
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Post by sll on Aug 9, 2015 14:17:37 GMT -6
ive never actually tried the Blue Dots. sll what's your take? The blue dots are a little faster and punchier like the modern 2520s. I actually started with those and made them sound that way to match what was in a 1999 Legacy console. I got tired of having channels down during sessions. I do have some customers that claim the blue dots are a bit smoother in the top than the modern 2520s though, but the idea was to match the sound and keep a console alive. |
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Post by sll on Aug 9, 2015 14:18:52 GMT -6
I'm now a believer. I'm gonna do it ASAP. Need Litz stock...JS! I pulled the ACA board and there they are...8 trafos and 8 op amps. I'm gonna hit API for schematics and see if JS won't coach me on what else we should swap out. I'm hooked. I had more fun mixing last night than I have in months. The 440b might have had something to do with it too;) Good luck with getting the schematic they act like its the holy grail! That's if a schematic even exists. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 9, 2015 14:49:13 GMT -6
I'll be there, and i'll bring my Hakko 808 8) |
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 16:06:40 GMT -6
Listening Noah's mix samples on headphones,the Capi channels instantly sound less congested,deeper,more expensive.
Damn!
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 9, 2015 16:22:12 GMT -6
Aw...it's on...
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Post by roundbadge on Aug 9, 2015 16:31:08 GMT -6
Yeah The way I see it is I likely will never buy another console. It's either keep the 1608 , make it as good as it can be or sell it and go back to the summing boxes. I like having faders and busses. |
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Post by winetree on Aug 9, 2015 17:58:57 GMT -6
Spending 40K + for a new 16 channel console and having to modify it.
Whats wrong with that picture.
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