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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 17, 2015 13:27:27 GMT -6
That's just the first happy hour bar for me...why I had to quit...ish I love the "...ish"
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Post by odyssey76 on Jul 17, 2015 14:32:09 GMT -6
I've only tried the free one. Ipedrum hit the nail on the head I think. It sounds good on most things I've tried in moderation. Really good, but doesn't have the same smoothness as the hardware when pushed. It's defiantly got a sweet spot. Now here's something even this free one beats hardware on... BASS!! Knocks a di bass out of the park. Crank the hell out of it and the distortion is niiiiice. Sta sounds good on bass too but can't get as much distortion. I was really hoping this plug would be great on bass. I bought it but won't be able to actually try it out until next week sometime. I likes me some bass distortion
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Post by Randge on Jul 17, 2015 22:05:54 GMT -6
For the money, it's a no brainier to have in your plugin arsenal. If it does one thing great, it's well worth it. I just have a sound in my head and it couldn't go there I guess.
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Post by jeromemason on Jul 17, 2015 22:14:03 GMT -6
Yeah I'm going to buy it. I've spent more on a night of drinking and only had a hangover to show for it. Now I'm totally F'd that you've put that in my reasoning.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 17, 2015 22:40:38 GMT -6
One less bottle of Four Roses Small Batch.
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Post by porkyman on Jul 18, 2015 3:35:21 GMT -6
pretty amazing. i think on cleaner more true to the source acoustic sounds it might not work as much but for itb electronic type of stuff i do it is probably the best plugin i have. my guess is Dr. Bill will love it and Jim Williams will absolutely hate it. lol...
a/b against waves comps but they're really not comparable. its more along the lines of ubk1 but i still prefer it to the kush. all 3 models sound so different one of them is bound to work on what ever the source is. tried it on everything. fixed a snare that has been bugging me for months. drumbuss. 2buss. amazing on arp bass and synth leads (although it can get too thick in a hurry).. it didnt always work for me on vocals but it is the absolute best on rap vox. the hifi and distortion combined with the wet dry makes it the ultimate vocal exciter for that modern pop sound. for $28 i cant imagine not finding a use for it somewhere.
thanks for the heads up!!!
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Post by odyssey76 on Jul 18, 2015 6:54:02 GMT -6
Okay, I had about 15 mins. to try this out so these are just my 1st impressions.........Took it for a spin on bass and drum buss on a new tune I'm working on. It has a sound for sure and it's one that I really like. It's dense and can anchor the drums with ease. Very easy to overdo this plug I would think. The mix knob alone for parallel processing is worth the $27.
What I like most is the actual compression behavior. I never get into hardware vs. software debates but I prefer hardware by a large margin. Not necessarily for the tone as much as the way hardware reacts to a signal. I generally find hardware does a better, more effective job compressing or eq'ing and it makes it easier and faster for me to get results I like. That being said, I love how this comp reacts to bass and drums so far. It clamps down reliably and when I expect it will. This is a very cool plug.
Again, only 15 mins. so take all this with a grain of salt......
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 18, 2015 9:09:44 GMT -6
I agree - one of the biggest differences in HW and ITB comp seems to be the attack and grab...ITB doesn't always seem to have the same grab - don't really know how to explain that...
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Post by Guitar on Jul 21, 2015 13:35:09 GMT -6
I agree - one of the biggest differences in HW and ITB comp seems to be the attack and grab...ITB doesn't always seem to have the same grab - don't really know how to explain that... Agreed 100% with both of you.
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Post by ardis on Aug 19, 2015 12:45:45 GMT -6
Just curious, did you guys that didn't like STA, try the updated version?
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 19, 2015 12:59:51 GMT -6
Never did. Bought it and need to update.
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Post by bluenoise on Aug 21, 2015 19:57:55 GMT -6
Tried it, liked it, bought it, loved it. Those extra features are really worth it. I didn't have this flavour and now i realize i was missing it.
No freaking brainer!
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Post by geoff738 on Aug 21, 2015 21:20:21 GMT -6
So, uh, other than the Slate FG-X or whatever it's called, I don't have a vari-mu plug. Does that mean I have to get this?
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by ardis on Aug 24, 2015 8:26:02 GMT -6
I would, didn't have one either. Great sounding. The oversampling does make a difference. It nets out to leass than $10/per comp, and easily is worth much more. I'd put up against anything in terms of sound.
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Post by forgotteng on Oct 12, 2015 20:49:25 GMT -6
Yea this thing I really dig. No brainer for the price. I've been using the other 2 plugs for a while and this one does not disappoint.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 17:50:20 GMT -6
I have the free versions of the Klanghelm vari-mu and his other "two-knob" compressor installed. Good. Really good. The MJUCjr. went into the master bus of an electronic music piece with female vocals in Mixbus and just fiddled around for testing on program material. Like you maybe would do with vari-mu with very light GR, thought it would be worth to at least test. It was. Stays there. Normally i do not like vari-mu compression emulations in the master bus. But it accidentally fits the song. :-) For sure it does not fit everywhere, but it really had some cool analogish vibe i like that's quite unique, too. I most probably will upgrade to the full versions of the Klanghelm compressor stuff. Right after i upgraded to Mixbus 3.1 ... Not really sure about his saturation plugin. IVGI has something good to it, but i am not sure i really need yet another plugin in this area... However - the Klanghelm stuff is what plugins should be like. Interesting, somehow innovative, good sounding and more than reasonably priced. Sometimes i am daydreaming about mixing with excellent analog sound and even workflow ITB and all that with some free and really inexpensive/"near-free" DAW and plugins for maybe under 200 bucks total investment without missing *anything*... Hmm, wait, there's Mixbus, Klanghelm, Variety of Sound, vladg/sound, Tokio Dawn Labs, Boz,...hmm, i already started to do exactly this... I like the approach of the developer to make tools that do not exist in analog or digital world already. Not like "emulation of the famous model xxx from the famous manufacturer yyy from may 1962 with serial number 666 also called muddygreyface...". Not that kind of BS. AFAIK the MJUCjr. is even some kind of breed between 2 models of the full product, so this is also a nice idea - still useful even if you have the full version. Just for the great simplicity of usage. (Same applies to his earlier freeware compressor plugin...)
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 17, 2015 18:34:13 GMT -6
I like his plugs too, the SDRR can be great to give sources, like a too clean rhodes, the right fuzz. I would not overdo it, here and there yes, but if its too much it starts to strain the ear. He also advises to use it on the 2 bus, to my ear its not good enough for this use - it can ruin the mix even with subtle amounts.... The new compressor is pretty amazing I like it and I think its on the same quality level as the UAD 1176.....
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Post by Randge on Oct 17, 2015 19:00:17 GMT -6
I bought and installed the full MJUC tonight. It's far better sounding than the JR version I had originally tried. It will come in handy if I am needing a quick Vari Mu sound and don't want to take the time to insert a hardware piece. It is a pretty decent plugin and for the money, a no brainer.
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Post by odyssey76 on Oct 17, 2015 19:26:10 GMT -6
@smallbutfine - "serial number 666 and also called greymuddyface" lmfao dude! That's just damn funny.....
I agree with you, I can't believe all the emulations and emulations of emulations that are still being programmed. Getting old....
I still love this plugin. It's my favorite ITB comp. I know I said it earlier in this thread but the way the compression clamps down on a signal is great for software. Very nice character as well.
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Post by henge on Oct 17, 2015 20:36:38 GMT -6
I have the free versions of the Klanghelm vari-mu and his other "two-knob" compressor installed. Good. Really good. The MJUCjr. went into the master bus of an electronic music piece with female vocals in Mixbus and just fiddled around for testing on program material. Like you maybe would do with vari-mu with very light GR, thought it would be worth to at least test. It was. Stays there. Normally i do not like vari-mu compression emulations in the master bus. But it accidentally fits the song. :-) For sure it does not fit everywhere, but it really had some cool analogish vibe i like that's quite unique, too. I most probably will upgrade to the full versions of the Klanghelm compressor stuff. Right after i upgraded to Mixbus 3.1 ... Not really sure about his saturation plugin. IVGI has something good to it, but i am not sure i really need yet another plugin in this area... However - the Klanghelm stuff is what plugins should be like. Interesting, somehow innovative, good sounding and more than reasonably priced. Sometimes i am daydreaming about mixing with excellent analog sound and even workflow ITB and all that with some free and really inexpensive/"near-free" DAW and plugins for maybe under 200 bucks total investment without missing *anything*... Hmm, wait, there's Mixbus, Klanghelm, Variety of Sound, vladg/sound, Tokio Dawn Labs, Boz,...hmm, i already started to do exactly this... I like the approach of the developer to make tools that do not exist in analog or digital world already. Not like "emulation of the famous model xxx from the famous manufacturer yyy from may 1962 with serial number 666 also called muddygreyface...". Not that kind of BS. AFAIK the MJUCjr. is even some kind of breed between 2 models of the full product, so this is also a nice idea - still useful even if you have the full version. Just for the great simplicity of usage. (Same applies to his earlier freeware compressor plugin...) The full version is a step up for sure. Never liked ivgi...
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Post by lpedrum on Oct 17, 2015 20:59:42 GMT -6
I bought and installed the full MJUC tonight. It's far better sounding than the JR version I had originally tried. It will come in handy if I am needing a quick Vari Mu sound and don't want to take the time to insert a hardware piece. It is a pretty decent plugin and for the money, a no brainer. One reason I like the full MJUC better is that I end up using the Mk2 version most of the time. Even with a smidge of compression it gives vocals a nice color and presence.
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Post by ardis on Oct 19, 2015 8:33:33 GMT -6
Another compressor that was a great freebie is the bx opto. I use this on stems and MJUC on mixes. Bx opto is lite on CPU and very in your face. It now costs $50 for the pedal but you might want to try it. They do work well together. I agree the Mk2 version of MJUC is really great. An amazing comp that really adds dimension which is much different than Vertigo and UBK-1 that are my mainstays.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 20, 2015 17:14:20 GMT -6
Yeah - that Altec looking one is nice...
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Post by Ward on Oct 21, 2015 5:58:57 GMT -6
Folks... help me out with something, as I've never tried this Klanghelm yet.
REAL Varimu hardware comps "Bog down" when you hit them hard or try using too much compression/gain reduction with them. Like a tube guitar amp with the rectifier (especially a GZ34) unable to keep up with the demands. The pumping and breathing turns to wheezing and coughing and gagging....
Is this piece of software like that?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 21, 2015 8:28:14 GMT -6
Yes it is ward. You can hear the bogging on very dynamic sources when pushed. It sounds pretty darn accurate I'll tell you.
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