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Post by kidvybes on Jan 15, 2015 11:48:15 GMT -6
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Post by Randge on Jan 15, 2015 13:34:13 GMT -6
This has been on facebook lately with people bashing him left and right about his collection, calling him greedy and everything in between. They have called him everything but what he really is. A hard working and smart businessman who has his act together and is on top because of it. He has bent over backwards for a lot of people I have recorded with and I for one appreciate having his rental shop just a half mile away to try gear and see what I fall in love with at a reasonable rental price.
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Post by kidvybes on Jan 15, 2015 13:42:39 GMT -6
Appreciate you saying that bro...I saw some of that nonsense on FB, but I myself did not get that impression from the video at all...don't understand where some people's heads are at these days...Blackbird is an institution in that music community...anyone running a successful operation of that scale in today's economy deserves respect, in the least...
One constant in the universe, haters gonna hate...
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 15, 2015 13:42:39 GMT -6
Good Lord...people will bitch about anything. It's the "eat the rich" mentality in America right now.
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2015 14:03:37 GMT -6
It's like a bunch of kids, it's really easy to diss on the guy who has all the toys that fill their wet dreams. Now if they only spent that time both moaning and groaning times 50 they might just work as hard as John has to get where he is.
The other point the haters need to realize is how much of this stuff John saved from the landfill and the time, effort and coin he has put into making it all work and keeping it all working.
I guess what really makes me pissed is they don't realize how lucky we all are that we can use it all for a price, I think it's the price thing that gets them, but I bet most of them have library fines that could pay for a couple of days with a 251!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2015 15:24:09 GMT -6
I believe that just underscores what we are doing here in the first place.
My experience in life is that the bitchers , moaners and groaners are those who are most least likely to do anything constructive and to take initiative to solve the problem/issue they are complaining about.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 15, 2015 17:05:04 GMT -6
Look at the size and quality of his facility! Those are just tools of the trade, it's like people getting mad at me because i owned 30 skilsaws at one point, i had crews of guys working for me at the time, so i guess i'm a prick too? well...., we'll make an exception in my case lol 8)
It's just envy, plain and simple, same as it's always been.
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Post by lpedrum on Jan 15, 2015 20:28:54 GMT -6
Nothin' funner than a thread that bitches and moans about other folks that bitch and moan!
Seriously though, I'm not a Nashville guy so I've never met the man. I do shy away from folks claiming anything is "the best" they've ever heard. Especially if they sell or rent it. It implies subliminally that your recording will always be inferior until you buy or rent their holy grail.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 15, 2015 20:58:26 GMT -6
Nothin' funner than a thread that bitches and moans about other folks that bitch and moan! Seriously though, I'm not a Nashville guy so I've never met the man. I do shy away from folks claiming anything is "the best" they've ever heard. Especially if they sell or rent it. It implies subliminally that your recording will always be inferior until you buy or rent their holy grail. well, considering he owns/heard every mic ever made lol, it may add a little to his credibility 8) I think he was just alluding to it being his favorite of all mics, nothing wrong with that imv, also, there are a lot of trustable folks familiar with Martina's 251 that say it's the "best" incarnation of the elam they've ever heard(sinsay). From my point of view, an elam is a U47 with the high freq extension of a C12, that is the reason why the marriage gets such so much love, and deservedly so imo. |
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Post by Randge on Jan 15, 2015 21:07:18 GMT -6
My bitching and moaning goes far deeper than those eggheads bashing that vid. It is the sense of entitlement that they have and if they don't have, the mindset of "hey, let's take it from others" that is the source of my disgust. They are being trained by their professors and society that it's ok to take from someone who has earned their life and possesions through hard work.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 15, 2015 21:13:07 GMT -6
Yeah and I'm pretty sure the consensus would be favorable for the top spot from those who have had the pleasure of owning and using a 251. They do sound amazing when in proper shape. IMO it's the best if there is one.
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 15, 2015 21:13:43 GMT -6
So what you saw guys, what was written below that mans video, something he was trying to do to educate the idiots that were being smart asses, is why this is the only forum I will visit. I have no doubt in our owners ability to kick anyone's ass out who were to ever speak that way of someone that has accomplished as much as John Mcbride. It's not like John was given all that, it's not like he didn't earn it, he worked his ass off for it and it makes my blood boil to see comments like that towards a guy I have spent time with, who takes time to answer his freaking phone when I call to have a quick chat when he could easily hit the ignore button. Anytime I have ever dialed his number, even if he was running sound at Martina's gig, he'd pick up that phone and at least tell me he couldn't talk ATM.
John is a guy who wants everyone to know about audio and gear, he loves telling people about it, talking about it, and I'm sure he WANTED to make that video as a way to help some of those idiots understand how amazing those microphones really are. The problem is they are too insecure and dumb to realize if they were to ever cross paths with him he would sit there and probably explain one on one to them just like he did in that video. He's an amazing gentleman who I feel damn privileged to know, it's an amazing honor. He buys those pieces of gear because he is trying to PROTECT them and make sure that generations that are in diapers have a chance to hear them, not because of some freaking monopoly and scheme to be the only person to rent them, what a bunch of BS. Damn that fired me up.
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Post by lpedrum on Jan 15, 2015 21:49:05 GMT -6
Wow... a few (very few) silly comments on Youtube of all places sure riled up some of the folks on this site. Don't worry friends, capitalism is alive and well in America. And last time I looked it's the poor and middle class that are being "eaten," not the rich. And I still stand by my opinion. There is no "best" mic.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 15, 2015 21:51:40 GMT -6
My bitching and moaning goes far deeper than those eggheads bashing that vid. It is the sense of entitlement that they have and if they don't have, the mindset of "hey, let's take it from others" that is the source of my disgust. They are being trained by their professors and society that it's ok to take from someone who has earned their life and possesions through hard work.R Pigeonholing "professors" and "society" sounds like a vast generalization and a bit like foxnews training? My best friend since high school is a college prof and he's as cool as shit, he works his ass off, and would never advocate that kinda BS. John M is a smart guy, who has vision and made some great decisions, he deserves what he's worked for, just like any of us, period. The vast majority of American society(that includes professors) are right in line with this, and scoff at that type of facebook douchebaggery. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 15, 2015 22:05:56 GMT -6
Wow... a few (very few) silly comments on Youtube of all places sure riled up some of the folks on this site. Don't worry friends, capitalism is alive and well in America. And last time I looked it's the poor and middle class that are being "eaten," not the rich. And I still stand by my opinion. There is no "best" mic. I don't think anyones is riled up beyond reason, remember that John M is friends with guys on this board, i totally understand why they're ticked off, they're standing up for their friend, kinda like i just did. also, i don't disagree with you, but i think the whole subliminal politics that at least 4 of us have partaken in on this thread, should be gone from here, they are nothing but trouble, even when people agree... they don't agree when it comes to that stuff. This place is too cool for that, i vote NO on politics 8) |
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2015 22:23:32 GMT -6
Wow... a few (very few) silly comments on Youtube of all places sure riled up some of the folks on this site. Don't worry friends, capitalism is alive and well in America. And last time I looked it's the poor and middle class that are being "eaten," not the rich. And I still stand by my opinion. There is no "best" mic. I don't think anyones is riled up beyond reason, remember that John M is friends with guys on this board, i totally understand why they're ticked off, they're standing up for their friend, kinda like i just did. also, i don't disagree with you, but i think the whole subliminal politics that at least 4 of us have partaken in on this thread, should be gone from here, they are nothing but trouble, even when people agree... they don't agree when it comes to that stuff. This place is too cool for that, i vote NO on politics 8) Agreed I don't think it's a political thing it's more a maturity issue, the fact that this sense of entitlement rears its ugly head around college age has less to do with politics and more to do with lack of time out in the big bad real world. Everybody in the industry has either heard stories or been the recipient of John Mcbride bending over backwards to help somebody ( he contributed to my life support fund), so Yeah the Music City contingent is going to take a slight on John as fighting words and very rightly so. This guy didn't build Blackbird to make money it is there because he loves Audio, Music, the gear and the people. I have said it before Ill say it again John Built MD systems, what is now Clair Brothers Nashville. Clair Brothers Bought MD to get a foot hold in the Countey touring market. John has as much of his own money as his wife, and many don't realize that and think he's riding his wife's coat tails and he isn't ! |
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Post by Ward on Jan 15, 2015 22:34:55 GMT -6
The man's forgotten more bout microphones and audio production than all his detractors know ... combined!
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 15, 2015 23:17:19 GMT -6
My bitching and moaning goes far deeper than those eggheads bashing that vid. It is the sense of entitlement that they have and if they don't have, the mindset of "hey, let's take it from others" that is the source of my disgust. They are being trained by their professors and society that it's ok to take from someone who has earned their life and possesions through hard work.R Pigeonholing "professors" and "society" sounds like a vast generalization and a bit like foxnews training? My best friend since high school is a college prof and he's as cool as shit, he works his ass off, and would never advocate that kinda BS. John M is a smart guy, who has vision and made some great decisions, he deserves what he's worked for, just like any of us, period. The vast majority of American society(that includes professors) are right in line with this, and scoff at that type of facebook douchebaggery. Errm...whats wrong with Fox News? Have I been watching the wrong network? |
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Post by Randge on Jan 16, 2015 5:13:32 GMT -6
I experienced exactly that when I went to school in Iowa, so I am speaking out of personal experience, not a tv show, Tony. It seems to have become worse the last few years though. Pure indoctrination, simple as that. Its harder and harder these days to work your ass off and get anywhere because people think its ok to sponge, they think its ok to steal music, and think its ok to let some "rich" guy foot the bill. I see it everyday of my life and fight it with every fiber of my being. In actuality, the poor are being pretty well taken care of here in Tennessee. They get free healthcare and subsidies that put them into the middle class above many musician friends who play 3 shifts a day on lower broadway and are above the poverty line. The rich pay over 70% of all income taxes here in America. Smart people who work hard supporting those who won't and those who can't. That is reality, not some blanket statement of left or right politics. I am all for supporting those who can't. It's those who should be working and won't is the root of the problem. Those facebook comments that I mentioned earlier in this thread came during the normal working day, when people are normally earning their way. So, for the posters to have had the time to bash and how they went about it says a lot to me about their character.
I have been up since 4 am working, so maybe I am just bitter...
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Post by Ward on Jan 16, 2015 6:45:27 GMT -6
Randge Your comments also correctly assess the situation in every western democracy (Liberal Demo-CRAZY) at the moment!! And it's unlikely to see tremendous change in the next little while...meaning a couple generations, until the economies collapse - and they're teetering on that edge now too. So, the intention of liberalism is collectivism but it has backfired into just another 'every man for himself' type of society as the working poor, middle class and wealthy face the reality of trying to make ends meet and carrying one of two welfare types on their backs. But enough about politics!! Even if it is socio-economic politics. BACK TO THE GEAR!
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2015 7:37:07 GMT -6
But enough about politics!! BACK TO THE GEAR! Thanks. |
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Post by lpedrum on Jan 16, 2015 8:44:12 GMT -6
I experienced exactly that when I went to school in Iowa, so I am speaking out of personal experience, not a tv show, Tony. It seems to have become worse the last few years though. Pure indoctrination, simple as that. Its harder and harder these days to work your ass off and get anywhere because people think its ok to sponge, they think its ok to steal music, and think its ok to let some "rich" guy foot the bill. I see it everyday of my life and fight it with every fiber of my being. In actuality, the poor are being pretty well taken care of here in Tennessee. They get free healthcare and subsidies that put them into the middle class above many musician friends who play 3 shifts a day on lower broadway and are above the poverty line. The rich pay over 70% of all income taxes here in America. Smart people who work hard supporting those who won't and those who can't. That is reality, not some blanket statement of left or right politics. I am all for supporting those who can't. It's those who should be working and won't is the root of the problem. Those facebook comments that I mentioned earlier in this thread came during the normal working day, when people are normally earning their way. So, for the posters to have had the time to bash and how they went about it says a lot to me about their character. I have been up since 4 am working, so maybe I am just bitter... R I'm tempted to rebut your world view point by point, but I won't because I agree with others that this site should steer away from politics. When John K starts talking about "eating the rich" it triggers strong views from both ends of the political spectrum. The irony of all this is that the very plight of working musicians and engineers trying to scrape by probably in some way led to those youtube comments. I have no doubt that John McBride is a wonderful, humble person. But the vast majority of working musicians and engineers cannot relate to a video about recording with a roomful of Telefunkens, so I'm not surprised that it provoked a few snide or jealous comments from young, struggling musicians. Personally I found the video informative, and because I work with a lot of women singers I hope some day to avail myself of Sinsay's expertise to get something close to what the 251 does. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 16, 2015 11:41:56 GMT -6
I experienced exactly that when I went to school in Iowa, so I am speaking out of personal experience, not a tv show, Tony. It seems to have become worse the last few years though. Pure indoctrination, simple as that. Its harder and harder these days to work your ass off and get anywhere because people think its ok to sponge, they think its ok to steal music, and think its ok to let some "rich" guy foot the bill. I see it everyday of my life and fight it with every fiber of my being. In actuality, the poor are being pretty well taken care of here in Tennessee. They get free healthcare and subsidies that put them into the middle class above many musician friends who play 3 shifts a day on lower broadway and are above the poverty line. The rich pay over 70% of all income taxes here in America. Smart people who work hard supporting those who won't and those who can't. That is reality, not some blanket statement of left or right politics. I am all for supporting those who can't. It's those who should be working and won't is the root of the problem. Those facebook comments that I mentioned earlier in this thread came during the normal working day, when people are normally earning their way. So, for the posters to have had the time to bash and how they went about it says a lot to me about their character. I have been up since 4 am working, so maybe I am just bitter... R I'm tempted to rebut your world view point by point, but I won't because I agree with others that this site should steer away from politics. When John K starts talking about "eating the rich" it triggers strong views from both ends of the political spectrum. The irony of all this is that the very plight of working musicians and engineers trying to scrape by probably in some way led to those youtube comments. I have no doubt that John McBride is a wonderful, humble person. But the vast majority of working musicians and engineers cannot relate to a video about recording with a roomful of Telefunkens, so I'm not surprised that it provoked a few snide or jealous comments from young, struggling musicians. Personally I found the video informative, and because I work with a lot of women singers I hope some day to avail myself of Sinsay's expertise to get something close to what the 251 does. I didn't read the Youtube comments, so I have no idea what was said...but jeesh...jealousy is an excuse for being an asshole now? I would say to those struggling musicians to put their big-boy pants on, work two jobs and hold someone like John McBride up as something to aspire to - an American success story. Nobody owes anyone anything. Why is it that immigrants come to this country and work harder than most of us that were reared here? Because they can see the opportunities...Obviously we have a responsibility to take care of those who can't take care of themselves, but what happened to the American dream/ideal of building something yourself? |
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Post by lpedrum on Jan 16, 2015 13:05:19 GMT -6
OK...please read the comments and THEN decide if this is an egregious assault on American values.
Robert Tsuhako 15 hours ago
That is a great Mic! I just happened to use a Gauge ECM-47 in a session and I was blown away, it was an exact clone sound of the TF U-47!
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Ben Tyreman 23 hours ago
why does he need 25 of them? lol I need one
jackpaice 1 day ago
for 10k it better be "great on guitars, great on overheads, great on (...)" freakin' everything
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Chris Munton 1 day ago
Oh yeah -let's through 20 of em up and record everything! For only $200k! They used a C12 on my wife and I also wish I could afford one of those.
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GREAT INFO FOR PRO OR NEW ARTIST
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Very expensive....
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Condenser mics that cost tens of thousands of dollars are so cool!!
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Despite gambling being intrinsically evil, I would bet all the money in my wallet that the sole person who clicked the "thumbs-down" button would not reject this microphone if somebody was so generous to give him one.
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Post by Randge on Jan 16, 2015 13:32:42 GMT -6
Now, go through all of the FB audio pages where this video was posted. That is where I read most of the slander about John and Blackbird.
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