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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 5, 2023 6:54:33 GMT -6
With the native ports, we expect users to lean less on Sats, but DSP will remain the backbone of the ecosystem for many years to come. Your Unison technology is based upon the DSP - so interfaces make sense to include DSP (even RME have built in tracking monitoring FX) For users like myself who have use UAD-2 DSP for mixing the story is now very different and I no longer need any new DSP cards as so many of my meat and potatoes UAD plugins now run natively. Native UAD Spark is taking the load off my UAD-2 DSP .... how's that for irony Indeed! We feel we're taking care of all user types now. Apollos are amazing interfaces and with their ability to run the best plugins in the business at low latency, along with Unison, are a compelling option. UADx native plugins allow users to leverage the power of their CPUs. Put it together and you have a formidable system. DSP+CPU will always beat CPU alone.
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 6, 2023 0:48:31 GMT -6
Your Unison technology is based upon the DSP - so interfaces make sense to include DSP (even RME have built in tracking monitoring FX) For users like myself who have use UAD-2 DSP for mixing the story is now very different and I no longer need any new DSP cards as so many of my meat and potatoes UAD plugins now run natively. Native UAD Spark is taking the load off my UAD-2 DSP .... how's that for irony Indeed! We feel we're taking care of all user types now. Apollos are amazing interfaces and with their ability to run the best plugins in the business at low latency, along with Unison, are a compelling option. UADx native plugins allow users to leverage the power of their CPUs. Put it together and you have a formidable system. DSP+CPU will always beat CPU alone. Well, if all UAD plug-ins were native, I doubt I’d bother with my UAD-2 card as my Intel 24 core CPU is insanely powerful. I’m not a fan of Apollo interfaces personally, I don’t need the unison stuff as I have hardware for tracking and I prefer dedicated high end converters - but the Apollos definitely work well if you want the facilities they offer. As there are plug-ins still only DSP then I’ll have to keep my UAD-2’s going. Long term, I’m sure all UAD plug-ins will go native (even if UA keep DSP unison versions) it would be a Luddite move to not do that, especially in the face of such enormous growing competition for fantastic sounding plug-ins. For me, Spark X plug-ins have been the way foward for using UAD plug-ins.
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Post by ericn on Dec 6, 2023 20:29:36 GMT -6
One thing with the DSP, there were a lot of guys who had been staff at major studios in almost every market who primarily still tracked in for hire rooms and mixed and did some overdubs at home who went UAD for the low latency. Combined with the quality there really wasn’t another ecosystem that competed at the price point. Now all these guys that I know have a particular UAD plugin that they prefer from another vendor, but if they want to track with an API EQ or 1176 emulation it’s the UAD. If DSP goes bye-bye, I doubt these guys would have any allegiance long term.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 6, 2023 21:06:38 GMT -6
Here's what I would like to know, WHY has UAD's customer service turned into such a mess. A two week time to solve a problem is simply unacceptable. I can not believe UAD doesn't have enough money to hire more customer service reps. So, why are dragging their feet here? It used to take hours, not weeks to hear back from UAD.
I bought two plug-ins on Nov. 25th, and they're not showing up anywhere. Tomorrow will be 13 days, and I still have no response. This is not what a professional musician can work with. UAD hypes and prides itself on how state of the at their products are, but if there's no customer service to back that up, it's useless.
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Post by ericn on Dec 6, 2023 21:46:53 GMT -6
Here's what I would like to know, WHY has UAD's customer service turned into such a mess. A two week time to solve a problem is simply unacceptable. I can not believe UAD doesn't have enough money to hire more customer service reps. So, why are dragging their feet here? It used to take hours, not weeks to hear back from UAD. I bought two plug-ins on Nov. 25th, and they're not showing up anywhere. Tomorrow will be 13 days, and I still have no response. This is not what a professional musician can work with. UAD hypes and prides itself on how state of the at their products are, but if there's no customer service to back that up, it's useless. Because until Spark they haven’t been this far down market and I doubt they have anyone in management who has worked at this far down market. You have customers with the same issues you always had, but now you are also supporting a new to you platform to all kinds of new customers with less technical background and your also going to find your new customers are going to be running your new stuff on all kinds of crap computers. So rather than a linear increase in support you have x times x times x times x. Unless someone who is in charge has been through a move like this you’re not going to see it that way. Then you have to find and train the labor, plus your clients are going to be using rigs nobody in house has ever heard of. Unless you have lived it you don’t see it. Anyone remember PT’s first 2 attempts at down market? Session 8? Then more similar to this the purchase of M-Audio? How did those work out?
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 7, 2023 6:25:24 GMT -6
Here's what I would like to know, WHY has UAD's customer service turned into such a mess. A two week time to solve a problem is simply unacceptable. I can not believe UAD doesn't have enough money to hire more customer service reps. So, why are dragging their feet here? It used to take hours, not weeks to hear back from UAD. I bought two plug-ins on Nov. 25th, and they're not showing up anywhere. Tomorrow will be 13 days, and I still have no response. This is not what a professional musician can work with. UAD hypes and prides itself on how state of the at their products are, but if there's no customer service to back that up, it's useless. Hi Martin, Thanks for the post. The answer is two words: massive growth. Growth that Support has not caught up with just yet. We've done a bunch new hires in Support, but our ecosystem is pretty complex, so it takes months for them to come up to 100% effectiveness. Combined with new systems being tried out (AI and that stuff), we're in a rough patch for sure. But hopefully there's light at the end of the tunnel. What is your ticket #? Happy to look into it for you.
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Post by Quint on Dec 7, 2023 7:07:45 GMT -6
A two week wait time, though completely unacceptable all on its own, could possibly be forgiven if it were ultimately shown to be only temporary, and depending on how long this lasts. Though I still think UA should have done a better job of anticipating this. The plan for Spark (and other new product lines) was in development for some not insignificant amount of time prior to its release, so that should have given UA ample opportunity to have the additional CS resources in place at release, rather than the mess we have now.
Regardless, what will continue to be unacceptable and what is definitely not temporary was, first, a reduction in the available phone hours to only a few hours a day and only on three days a week to, second, removal of phones altogether. That happened some time ago, well before this recent increase in wait times to two weeks.
Now all we have is this shitty ticket system with a minimum wait time (by design) of three days, and that is best case scenario (it's obviously much longer right now). Also, that's a three day minimum just to get an initial response, which is often just a canned response with no real thought behind it. Then you get to go thru multiple rounds of this before you finally maybe get to an answer that actually addresses the situation. So it takes a week or more of this type of start/stop conversation on top of however long it took you to get the initial response. And this is ALL very much intentional and by design.
As Drew is fond of saying, (I paraphrase) a person should make purchases based on what you need now and what products offer those features now, not what features you hope may one day be added to a product. Well that's a two way street then. If I should purchase without expecting any new features to be added in the future, I similarly should purchase without expecting any current features to be removed in the future.
Well, when I purchased my Apollos, I could pick up a phone and get someone right away, or at least get a call back that same day. It's part of what I paid for. It was the "now" at that point in time, and definitely played a roll in my decision to purchase, same as the quality of customer service, or lack there of, plays a roll in the purchasing decisions of many people.
So this down grade in customer service feels like features that I paid for are actually being taken away. I don't know that I would have made the same purchasing decision knowing what I know now about what would become of UA's customer service.
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Post by ragan on Dec 7, 2023 9:19:44 GMT -6
Two weeks is crazy and unacceptable.
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Post by mike on Dec 7, 2023 9:33:12 GMT -6
My update is, though it did take almost 2 weeks to solve, both Drew and UA support did respond to me and help fix my issue in the end which I appreciate, as well as the communication above saying growth has overwhelmed support that they are working on solving and improving. I'll take them at their word since they did follow through with thanks to Drew/UA for their help.
Izotope on the other hand now that they've been absorbed by NI, seems to no longer have any support at all, and no way to directly contact support. Only FAQ help links. Even when NI responds within a couple of days to some questions, they ignore the question of how do I contact Izotope support, which makes me Leary of purchasing any more Izotope products until they once again have support contact.
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Post by Quint on Dec 7, 2023 9:55:51 GMT -6
My update is, though it did take almost 2 weeks to solve, both Drew and UA support did respond to me and help fix my issue in the end which I appreciate, as well as the communication above saying growth has overwhelmed support that they are working on solving and improving. I'll take them at their word since they did follow through with thanks to Drew/UA for their help. Izotope on the other hand now that they've been absorbed by NI, seems to no longer have any support at all, and no way to directly contact support. Only FAQ help links. Even when NI responds within a couple of days to some questions, they ignore the question of how do I contact Izotope support, which makes me Leary of purchasing any more Izotope products until they once again have support contact. Yeah, that sounds pretty shit for NI/Izotope. I haven't had to deal with NI customer service before, so I'm lucky I guess. I don't own any Isotope products, thankfully. That said, I'm pretty reluctant to declare UA as a "winner" (or, technically, loser?!?) in the race to the bottom, simply by virtue of apparently not being the worst and in first place. Nothing about what UA is currently doing with their customer service should be considered a success.
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