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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 3, 2023 19:39:41 GMT -6
Used AS for $700, where, sign me up ! 1-2 channels of dedicated fx or 10’s of multiple plug ins and reducing demand on your computer cpu. Not exactly apples and oranges but you’d create different results for the same money, but I think AS box would cost you more. I did say "close to", and there are two on Reverb that fit that description currently. . Fair enuff, but the ssl comp is one of their least expensive 19 inch boxes, so its used price is lower too. Unusual, to see their other gear at $700 or I never have. Reverb is now, almost always overpriced, as sellers have raised their prices to try to offset Reverb’s high fees. Anyway, of course do what you prefer, almost a golden age of recording, all the great technology and quality clones of classic outboard: best of both worlds: we are lucky to have such an abundance of choice challenges !
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Post by ragan on Dec 3, 2023 21:17:32 GMT -6
That’s good, I’m just waiting for the new UA converters to hit the market, and curious about the “no latency inserts” for outboard gear. I’m waiting to see what UA does and also waiting to see what happens with Avid, before making any decisions on what direction to go in the future. hardware Inserts are a highly requested feature for sure!! But there is no news to share at this time. It’s one of the main things keeping me from considering Luna to be a truly viable option. Seems like you guys have a good start, and people in my boat are definitely keeping an eye on it. It just needs to grow up as a DAW and incorporate some big boy features before it’s truly an alternative to something like PT. I’m rooting for it. I hate Avid’s business model and how they conduct themselves in general.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 4, 2023 1:39:21 GMT -6
But what’s the big deal, uA’s basically been saying , we’re thinking about it for 2-3 years, don't think: do !
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 6:54:49 GMT -6
Considering we don't talk about future stuff, it's the best/most appropriate answer. I get that you want me to post all the details and plans, but that's not how the world works. Also, by the way, this isn't the UAD forum. Thanks in advance for remembering that in the future. No idea what this means. This forum is the same as Matt's, a user run spot for sharing info. I'll post here just as I post there. So there is nothing to "remmeber"
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 6:56:39 GMT -6
hardware Inserts are a highly requested feature for sure!! But there is no news to share at this time. It’s one of the main things keeping me from considering Luna to be a truly viable option. Seems like you guys have a good start, and people in my boat are definitely keeping an eye on it. It just needs to grow up as a DAW and incorporate some big boy features before it’s truly an alternative to something like PT. I’m rooting for it. I hate Avid’s business model and how they conduct themselves in general. You and many others for sure. No news to share at this time, but getting LUNA out to the (Mac) masses is a big step in its evolution.
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 8:03:11 GMT -6
Also, by the way, this isn't the UAD forum. Thanks in advance for remembering that in the future. No idea what this means. This forum is the same as Matt's, a user run spot for sharing info. I'll post here just as I post there. So there is nothing to "remmeber" Don't kid yourself. This place is NOT the same as the UAD forum. You're obviously welcome to post here. I was simply suggesting that you leave the whole "try to control the narrative" thing that you do back over at the UAD forum where it belongs (if it belongs anywhere?). This isn't that kind of place.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 8:56:28 GMT -6
No idea what this means. This forum is the same as Matt's, a user run spot for sharing info. I'll post here just as I post there. So there is nothing to "remember" Don't kid yourself. This place is NOT the same as the UAD forum. You're obviously welcome to post here. I was simply suggesting that you leave the whole "try to control the narrative" thing that you do back over at the UAD forum where it belongs (if it belongs anywhere?). This isn't that kind of place. It's precisely the same to me. I was simply letting you know there was no "code" in my post.
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 9:26:22 GMT -6
Don't kid yourself. This place is NOT the same as the UAD forum. You're obviously welcome to post here. I was simply suggesting that you leave the whole "try to control the narrative" thing that you do back over at the UAD forum where it belongs (if it belongs anywhere?). This isn't that kind of place. It's precisely the same to me. As mentioned before, you're mistaken.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 9:31:16 GMT -6
It's precisely the same to me. As mentioned before, you're mistaken. Ah, good to know. I had this crazy thought that my perceptions were my own!! Silly me!!
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 9:48:06 GMT -6
As mentioned before, you're mistaken. Ah, good to know. I had this crazy thought that my perceptions were my own!! Silly me!! You also had the crazy perception that posting nebulous responses to customer questions wouldn't then invite said customers to interpret things as best they can. UA can't have their cake and eat it to. UA can't just stay mum on everything and then try to play gatekeeper when people talk about what's happening, in the absence of any official info. You can't string customers along with "we never say never" sort of responses and then get offended when interpretative discussion fills the void left by the lack of transparent info from you guys, especially when UA's credibility is sinking lower every day. Why should a customer continue to assume that, even without any transparency from UA, everything will be fine? Fool me once... I get that a company doesn't have to provide every little detail about future plans, but there is some give and take on this stuff. There are plenty of companies that provide a higher degree of transparency than you guys, so that customers can actually make informed decisions. You guys, on the other hand, have made obfuscation into an art form. Take note of SSL. They actually do try to be transparent about things. At least certainly more than you guys. And when they post things like anticipated release dates (Gasp!), they actually stick to them! What a concept. And don't get me started on the hot garbage that is UA's customer service these days. An average wait time of two weeks to get a response from CS! That's outrageous for a company that claims to sell pro audio products. So UA can either put up or shut up. Meanwhile, I'll continue to interpret your vague posts however and whenever I see fit.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 9:49:20 GMT -6
I'm not offended at all. Just trying to keep users from wasting their time. Enjoy.
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 9:56:50 GMT -6
Just trying to keep users from wasting their time. Then I think you know what to do...
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 10:02:24 GMT -6
Just trying to keep users from wasting their time. Then I think you know what to do... Yeah, I guess I gotta just keep on tryin!!
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 10:05:44 GMT -6
Then I think you know what to do... Yeah, I guess I gotta just keep on tryin!! Do better. Because right now, UA isn't.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 10:07:09 GMT -6
Yeah, I guess I gotta just keep on tryin!! Do better. Because right now, UA isn't. Indeed, we all have room for improvement. Not acknowledging that is never good.
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 10:16:03 GMT -6
Do better. Because right now, UA isn't. Indeed, we all have room for improvement. Not acknowledging that is never good. Back to our regularly scheduled Drew Mazurek deflection show. As a long time UA customer, I don't want UA to fail (though there are worrying signs). I still continue to tell people that they should give Luna a try. It's a really cool concept, and has potential. And I do like a lot of the plugins. Use them all the time. But you and the company you work for could use a good dose of humility. It's as clear as ever these days that the lack of humility and overall disrespect for UA's customers are one in the same. You guys are really trying to turn into the next Avid... It's sad, really.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 10:19:08 GMT -6
Indeed, we all have room for improvement. Not acknowledging that is never good. Back to our regularly scheduled Drew Mazurek deflection show. As a long time UA customer, I don't want UA to fail (though there are worrying signs). I still continue to tell people that they should give Luna a try. It's a really cool concept, and has potential. And I do like a lot of the plugins. Use them all the time. But you and the company you work for could use a good dose of humility. It's as clear as ever these days that the lack of humility and overall disrespect for UA's customers are one in the same. You guys are really trying to turn into the next Avid... It's sad, really. UA is actually crushing it, there is nothing to worry about. And thanks for the support!!
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 10:25:17 GMT -6
Back to our regularly scheduled Drew Mazurek deflection show. As a long time UA customer, I don't want UA to fail (though there are worrying signs). I still continue to tell people that they should give Luna a try. It's a really cool concept, and has potential. And I do like a lot of the plugins. Use them all the time. But you and the company you work for could use a good dose of humility. It's as clear as ever these days that the lack of humility and overall disrespect for UA's customers are one in the same. You guys are really trying to turn into the next Avid... It's sad, really. UA is actually crushing it, there is nothing to worry about. And thanks for the support!! Yep. Still not getting IT. This is a completely tone deaf response.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 4, 2023 10:26:53 GMT -6
Come on guyz, let’s leave that all that at the side of the road, please .
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 10:32:33 GMT -6
Come on guyz, let’s leave that all that at the side of the road, please . Eh, it needs to be said. Drew is pretty tone deaf and lacking in humility. Which is bad all on it's own, as someone who is the public face of the company. It's worse when he's the public face of the company AND UA has several dumpster fires all burning at the same time. And it's even worse than that when he is the public face of the company, and is literally the only person anyone can actually ask questions of, because the wait times to get a response from customer service are completely a joke right now.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Dec 4, 2023 10:38:42 GMT -6
Come on guyz, let’s leave that all that at the side of the road, please . Eh, it needs to be said. Drew is pretty tone deaf and lacking in humility. Which is bad all on it's own, as someone who is the public face of the company. It's worse when he's the public face of the company AND UA has several dumpster fires all burning at the same time. And it's even worse than that when he is the public face of the company, and is literally the only person anyone can actually ask questions of, because the wait times to get a response from customer service are completely a joke right now. And you've said it! Job done. My job doesn't require me to display any sort of emotion, certainly not humility? That's just an odd thing to say. This is business. I am here to provide information about our products. Let me know if I can answer any questions you have about them.
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 10:50:29 GMT -6
Eh, it needs to be said. Drew is pretty tone deaf and lacking in humility. Which is bad all on it's own, as someone who is the public face of the company. It's worse when he's the public face of the company AND UA has several dumpster fires all burning at the same time. And it's even worse than that when he is the public face of the company, and is literally the only person anyone can actually ask questions of, because the wait times to get a response from customer service are completely a joke right now. My job doesn't require me to display any sort of emotion, certainly not humility? That's just an odd thing to say. This is business. I am here to provide information about our products. Let me know if I can answer any questions you have about them. Lovely... Go ask Waves what the word "humility" means, and then maybe you'll understand why it's important to have some.
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Post by notneeson on Dec 4, 2023 11:17:12 GMT -6
Well, this is uncomfortable.
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Post by ragan on Dec 4, 2023 11:29:35 GMT -6
Quint I gotta say, I can’t really figure out what your beef is here
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 11:38:57 GMT -6
Quint I gotta say, I can’t really figure out what your beef is here If you haven't been a UA customer for some time, you may not be aware of a lot of things going on with UA right now. Nevertheless, despite Drew's attempts to continue pumping sunshine, UA has some problems. Drew will of course just tell you that UA is "crushing it"... So when he posts dismissive or tone deaf responses, as he often does, it exacerbates an already difficult situation. Like I said, if you haven't been around (my understanding is that you only recently got back into UAD), you're probably not aware of some of these things. But I can assure you that I'm not the only one with these complaints. All I can say is that, if you don't like how Avid does business or generally conducts itself, be aware that UA is unfortunately trying to dip their toes in those same waters. This ain't the same UA from 10 years ago, or even five years ago. It's a shame.
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