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Post by ragan on Dec 28, 2023 14:58:53 GMT -6
Oh yeah, I like the UAD Distressor too.
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Post by deif on Dec 28, 2023 21:08:16 GMT -6
Well, I am weak it seems. I had a $25 coupon and with the 2 for 99 deal I went ahead and got the SC and Massive Passive. for $74. Then they sent another coupon so I picked up the Fairchild for $14. If they sent me another coupon I’d probably buy something else. Sigh. Anyhow I see Helios is marked down to $29. If that were Native, yeah I’d be getting that too. Cheers, Geoff I predict the Helios is going to be the next one to go Native next month. They’ve put it on sale multiple times in the last few weeks. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 28, 2023 22:12:37 GMT -6
I really want one of these plug-ins to be the ticket for me and my small, super dead room. I really did not get along with the sonics of Ocean Way, but that was years ago now. A lot of people feel this way about OW, Ragan. It's a tweaker plug and somewhat difficult to operate: certainly a learning curve to it. I've found many uses for it over the years and still use it on every mix. I think it's the best plugin availible honestly. Not paid to say that either. |
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Post by drumsound on Dec 28, 2023 22:33:46 GMT -6
if you don't have a real Distressor, the plugin is pretty worthwhile (IMO). the DBX 160 I use quite often as well (and it won't need to be recapped). both are DSP or Native Oh yeah, I like the UAD Distressor too. Add me to that list. I really want one of these plug-ins to be the ticket for me and my small, super dead room. I really did not get along with the sonics of Ocean Way, but that was years ago now. A lot of people feel this way about OW, Ragan. It's a tweaker plug and somewhat difficult to operate: certainly a learning curve to it. I've found many uses for it over the years and still use it on every mix. I think it's the best plugin availible honestly. Not paid to say that either. I'm intrigued by you saying this. I have found OW to be pretty cool on some things, but would like to know what cool discoveries you made, because I know I've only cracked the surface. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 28, 2023 23:44:02 GMT -6
Well, I am weak it seems. I had a $25 coupon and with the 2 for 99 deal I went ahead and got the SC and Massive Passive. for $74. Then they sent another coupon so I picked up the Fairchild for $14. If they sent me another coupon I’d probably buy something else. Sigh. Anyhow I see Helios is marked down to $29. If that were Native, yeah I’d be getting that too. Cheers, Geoff I predict the Helios is going to be the next one to go Native next month. They’ve put it on sale multiple times in the last few weeks. But, Every plug UA makes has been on sale multiple times recently: we’ll see !  |
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Post by doubledog on Dec 29, 2023 9:15:10 GMT -6
I really want one of these plug-ins to be the ticket for me and my small, super dead room. I really did not get along with the sonics of Ocean Way, but that was years ago now. A lot of people feel this way about OW, Ragan. It's a tweaker plug and somewhat difficult to operate: certainly a learning curve to it. I've found many uses for it over the years and still use it on every mix. I think it's the best plugin availible honestly. Not paid to say that either. I agree about OW and I'm sure Sound City will be similar. I already see a bunch of umm... "new users"... proclaiming it sounds terrible on FB, etc. Of course they just slapped it on and chose a preset. Sorry, these plugins don't work like that. if you don't understand how they work, then don't get them until you do! (and not implying any of you here don't already know that...). The point is they are much more complex plugins. If you use them in "reverb" mode, it will require some tweaking to get a sound, but it's the "room" sound that may or may not work well with your close-mic'd sound (assuming you mic'd a track initially). So YMMV. But if you are trying to re-mic a track that has already been mic'd, then I think it's even less likely that you get the same results - in fact, w/o a lot of tweaking you might just get a phasey mess (initially). I see the re-mic as potentially working the best with DI'd tracks (since they will then go through the mic'd simulation of the plugin and get the room sound). not saying you can't re-mic a track that was initially close mic'd, but it might be a lot more work to get the sound you want. And I suspect most of the people saying these plugins suck have not taken the time to really learn how to use the plugin properly (or flat out just don't get it). |
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Post by antbar on Dec 29, 2023 13:51:21 GMT -6
Apologies if this has been covered here or in another thread, but how does the Capitol Chambers plug compare to the Sound City plug? I've already been bitten by the "Must have UA plugs all the time" bug. I'm so far using the SC plug in subtle ways... and it's really nice for such. Like so many of us, my mind is full of UA hype, but I'd love to get feedback from actual human users of both the SC and CC plugs. I am at the point where the "Do I need ANOTHER reverb?" is my morning mantra...
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 29, 2023 14:04:05 GMT -6
Ah, they are both reverbs, then everything else is different ! The reverbs differ as they are different spaces and you can tweak them very differently. Personally, as SC is different , I’d turn your argument on its head and ask yourself, why shouldn’t you buy SC and at 2/99, it’s very good value |
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Post by antbar on Dec 29, 2023 14:37:58 GMT -6
Ah, they are both reverbs, then everything else is different ! The reverbs differ as they are different spaces and you can tweak them very differently. Personally, as SC is different , I’d turn your argument on its head and ask yourself, why shouldn’t you buy SC and at 2/99, it’s very good value Main reason I wouldn't buy SC is cos I already own it! And I've got a $25 coupon, so it's 2/$75 at this point. But I'm wary of the eternal quest for next/more/next etc. Maybe especially with reverbs. To re-boil my question, is the CC a "must have" for those here that have it? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 29, 2023 14:47:14 GMT -6
I had CC before and would say no not must have, but it has a very special sound the Al default setting was lovely.
If you can get it cheaply, I would.
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Post by drumsound on Dec 29, 2023 20:38:31 GMT -6
Apologies if this has been covered here or in another thread, but how does the Capitol Chambers plug compare to the Sound City plug? I've already been bitten by the "Must have UA plugs all the time" bug. I'm so far using the SC plug in subtle ways... and it's really nice for such. Like so many of us, my mind is full of UA hype, but I'd love to get feedback from actual human users of both the SC and CC plugs. I am at the point where the "Do I need ANOTHER reverb?" is my morning mantra... I don't have Sound City, but I have both Capital and Ocean Way. Capital is a bigger, more obvious reverb vibe, and OW just puts some air around the sound, as it sounds like rooms where you'd put instruments, people and amps. You wouldn't generally want to set up in the Capital chambers if that makes sense. |
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Post by bossanova on Jul 31, 2024 14:54:34 GMT -6
So now that this is under $40, how are y'all feeling about Sound City after a few months?
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Post by doubledog on Jul 31, 2024 15:31:21 GMT -6
I think I got it back at the last holiday sale (so I only paid $25 since I used a 2-bundle for $149 - $100 coupon = $50 for 2 plugins). But that said, I used it over here: realgearonline.com/thread/17482/mike-roeder-riverthere is a tiny bit of a Soundtoys Echoboy Jr. (slapback) but any reverb is a combination of room ambience and the SC plugin (in reverb mode). And there was no room mic. So I wanted it to sound like room ambience. I thought it worked good for that but it is a cpu hog. I was running one instance of it native (on an aux send - sent vocals and a little bit of guitar to it) and I had to freeze/commit other tracks or it would sometimes cause problems for me |
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Post by wiz on Jul 31, 2024 15:36:55 GMT -6
Use it on every song
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by robo on Jul 31, 2024 16:13:23 GMT -6
It’s a good room reverb, and the processing and mic options are all cool. Whether or not it’s better than an IR verb with some processing is really mix dependent. I tend to decide on a “room” per project and just fine tune from song to song. This has been the choice for 2 out of the last 3.
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Post by bossanova on Jul 31, 2024 16:26:22 GMT -6
It’s a good room reverb, and the processing and mic options are all cool. Whether or not it’s better than an IR verb with some processing is really mix dependent. I tend to decide on a “room” per project and just fine tune from song to song. This has been the choice for 2 out of the last 3. That’s what I was wondering. I’ve been using Reverberate with M7 IRs for rooms, with Sunset and some other options thrown in depending on the track, but I always heard that those UAD rooms were on their own level. |
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 31, 2024 18:51:59 GMT -6
I have it. Native only and it is a resource HOG. I was shocked that one instance took 3/4 of my 2020 iMac processing power.
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Post by bluesholyman on Aug 1, 2024 7:14:47 GMT -6
I picked this up because all the "promos" and reviews painted it quite favorably when used correctly. Looking forward to trying it on vocals and maybe some untreated drum tracks.
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Post by robo on Aug 1, 2024 8:44:53 GMT -6
It’s a good room reverb, and the processing and mic options are all cool. Whether or not it’s better than an IR verb with some processing is really mix dependent. I tend to decide on a “room” per project and just fine tune from song to song. This has been the choice for 2 out of the last 3. That’s what I was wondering. I’ve been using Reverberate with M7 IRs for rooms, with Sunset and some other options thrown in depending on the track, but I always heard that those UAD rooms were on their own level. In the sense that you can move a source to different positions and swap mics and processing then Sound City is on another level. If you’ve got a dry drum kit or whatever I think it’s a great interface for honing in on the right room sound. However, I don’t think any static positioning in Sound City actually sounds better than those M7 impulses or the stock Reverberate rooms. The next level would be Reverberate with an interface and options like Sound City, because while it’s a good room, it simply isn’t the best room for everything. |
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Post by bossanova on Aug 1, 2024 16:13:33 GMT -6
That’s what I was wondering. I’ve been using Reverberate with M7 IRs for rooms, with Sunset and some other options thrown in depending on the track, but I always heard that those UAD rooms were on their own level. In the sense that you can move a source to different positions and swap mics and processing then Sound City is on another level. If you’ve got a dry drum kit or whatever I think it’s a great interface for honing in on the right room sound. However, I don’t think any static positioning in Sound City actually sounds better than those M7 impulses or the stock Reverberate rooms. The next level would be Reverberate with an interface and options like Sound City, because while it’s a good room, it simply isn’t the best room for everything. Hm…in that case, I have a *lot* of good room verbs, so I can probably hold on to the $40 then. I was also interested in the re-mic for dry/DI instruments, but I don’t know if that’s worth the dough for just that vs running them through a regular verb or an amp sim. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 3, 2024 23:36:27 GMT -6
Ok, I've had a lot of negative things to say about this plugin in the past. They're buried in many pages of comments here and elsewhere so not sure how much this matters but I feel duty bound to say I dusted this thing off tonight and I think I figured out how to use it.
As others have said, it's only really worthwhile on reverb mode unless you're using it as an aux (they really oughta call it "aux" mode instead of re-mic). The approach that worked for me was putting in some extreme settings for the room, using the EQ etc to modify them (actually only used EQ and a bit of chamber), and then dialing it WAYYYY back.
Sounded good on a rough mix of piano / drums / scratch vocal. This is what I've been using Inspirata for and I think I still like Inspirata better. But now that I know how to use it I can see using Sound City just on, say, drums or something in order to get some varied textures.
Either way... this was on my list of most regretted purchases. It's now been downgraded (upgraded?) to "probably paid too much but it's a usable piece of code for the right spot."
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Post by doubledog on Sept 4, 2024 7:39:57 GMT -6
reverb mode unless you're using it as an aux (they really oughta call it "aux" mode instead of re-mic). Hmmm... when I use it on "reverb" mode (which is always) then I put it on an Aux and use it like any other reverb plugin (where I will 'send" another track to it in pre-fader mode so that I can adjust the wet/dry mix). But my understanding of the "re-mic" mode is that you are supposed to put it on your raw track before any other processing and it is supposed to make it sound like it was actually recorded in the Sound City Studios room... so in other words I don't see that mode working better on an Aux, or at least I don't think that was how it was intended. Then again if you are saying it actually sounds better, then maybe I'll have to try it. I never had much interest in the "re-mic" mode of this or Ocean Way (which I also have) because I'm not recording in a bedroom... (and I feel like that is really who it is intended for). |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 4, 2024 7:57:03 GMT -6
reverb mode unless you're using it as an aux (they really oughta call it "aux" mode instead of re-mic). Hmmm... when I use it on "reverb" mode (which is always) then I put it on an Aux and use it like any other reverb plugin (where I will 'send" another track to it in pre-fader mode so that I can adjust the wet/dry mix). But my understanding of the "re-mic" mode is that you are supposed to put it on your raw track before any other processing and it is supposed to make it sound like it was actually recorded in the Sound City Studios room... so in other words I don't see that mode working better on an Aux, or at least I don't think that was how it was intended. Then again if you are saying it actually sounds better, then maybe I'll have to try it. I never had much interest in the "re-mic" mode of this or Ocean Way (which I also have) because I'm not recording in a bedroom... (and I feel like that is really who it is intended for). Well if that's what things sound like in Sound City, no wonder it closed! |
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Post by andersmv on Sept 5, 2024 8:29:31 GMT -6
But my understanding of the "re-mic" mode is that you are supposed to put it on your raw track before any other processing and it is supposed to make it sound like it was actually recorded in the Sound City Studios room... so in other words I don't see that mode working better on an Aux, or at least I don't think that was how it was intended. Then again if you are saying it actually sounds better, then maybe I'll have to try it. I never had much interest in the "re-mic" mode of this or Ocean Way (which I also have) because I'm not recording in a bedroom... (and I feel like that is really who it is intended for). Ya, don't try to use the remic option as a wet send in parallel. You'll get a lot of phase issues (That's why you can't use the wet/dry blend when in remic). It's also applying microphone emulations on your track as well, so it's kind of a crap shoot. There's been a handful of times where I tried remic and it sounded amazing. Most times, I try it really quick and then switch to the normal reverb mode. Remic has been a life saver on a few mix projects that were really minimalistic acoustic albums that the artist recorded in their bedroom. Sometimes the microphones weren't great and there's some bad, small room reflections. Shooting that to Ocean Way on remic has helped add some nice character to the cheap mic sounds and added a little bit of a good room sound that kind of masks the small bedroom reflections. If anyone is using remic regularly and really likes it, I would be curious to hear how you're using it. It's been a good "sometimes" thing for me, but most of the time I don't like it. But... I've got a decently sized live room that's treated and nice mics. I could see myself using this a lot when I was first starting out in a bedroom with some cheaper stuff. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Sept 5, 2024 14:35:18 GMT -6
But my understanding of the "re-mic" mode is that you are supposed to put it on your raw track before any other processing and it is supposed to make it sound like it was actually recorded in the Sound City Studios room... so in other words I don't see that mode working better on an Aux, or at least I don't think that was how it was intended. Then again if you are saying it actually sounds better, then maybe I'll have to try it. I never had much interest in the "re-mic" mode of this or Ocean Way (which I also have) because I'm not recording in a bedroom... (and I feel like that is really who it is intended for). Ya, don't try to use the remic option as a wet send in parallel. You'll get a lot of phase issues (That's why you can't use the wet/dry blend when in remic). It's also applying microphone emulations on your track as well, so it's kind of a crap shoot. There's been a handful of times where I tried remic and it sounded amazing. Most times, I try it really quick and then switch to the normal reverb mode. Remic has been a life saver on a few mix projects that were really minimalistic acoustic albums that the artist recorded in their bedroom. Sometimes the microphones weren't great and there's some bad, small room reflections. Shooting that to Ocean Way on remic has helped add some nice character to the cheap mic sounds and added a little bit of a good room sound that kind of masks the small bedroom reflections. If anyone is using remic regularly and really likes it, I would be curious to hear how you're using it. It's been a good "sometimes" thing for me, but most of the time I don't like it. But... I've got a decently sized live room that's treated and nice mics. I could see myself using this a lot when I was first starting out in a bedroom with some cheaper stuff. Re-mic has always sounded kind of weird to me. But I'm willing to learn if anyone has any tips on making it work. I feel like I'm probably missing something. |
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