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Post by skav on Sept 7, 2021 12:08:52 GMT -6
YOUR opinion on why it's a good OR a bad idea to get into the UAD plugin ecosystem in 2021? Ja? Nei? Please share your thoughts! I have been thinking about it, but am very hesitant as I think I have what I need already, but at the same time curious. I have never tried the products myself. Hi skav, Happy to answer any specific questions you might have. Quote this post with them. Hello Drew, thank you! Ok, you asked for it! Hehe.. Please don't let my questions rub you the wrong way, I'm just try to figure things out for myself. Forgive me for being a difficult person. My main interest is how UAD plugins can contribute to helping me 1. soundwise. Next is 2. efficiency and third is 3. cost. 1A. How would you truthfully say UAD plugins compares to the best native options available today? 1B. Is there anywhere UAD still has the upper hand? If yes, where? Please elaborate 1C. It's been many years since the UAD-2 satellites were released into the market, how do they hold up today? Can we expect something new? UAD-3? 1D. Aliasing is an increasing concern to me, as I have become very aware I do not like it's sound. Does your approach to this stand the test of time? 2A. What are the limitations to a Satellite USB vs THUNDERBOLT vs PCI-E? Does it matter which you choose? 2B. An Quad/Octo, how many instances of high quality demanding plugins can I expect to use with these? UAD-2 DSP Chart TY kcatthedog 2C. Does the plugins demand more if they are say on channels vs busses? 3A. I spend alot of time finding the best deals for me and my needs. What is the best deal price/value? Satellite & plugins. How should I go about it? 4A. I understand Luna is your focus at the moment. As I am very happy with both my interface/converters and daw and would not convert to Luna. Will I as a costumer feel as taken care of as Luna users, if I'm just here for the plugins? Will I just be stuck with a aging system which is barely focused on anymore? This is what I could think of now. Thank you! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 7, 2021 12:21:52 GMT -6
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Post by Drew @ UA on Sept 7, 2021 15:31:28 GMT -6
Hi skav, Happy to answer any specific questions you might have. Quote this post with them. Hello Drew, thank you! Ok, you asked for it! Hehe.. Please don't let my questions rub you the wrong way, I'm just try to figure things out for myself. Forgive me for being a difficult person. My main interest is how UAD plugins can contribute to helping me 1. soundwise. Next is 2. efficiency and third is 3. cost. 1A. How would you truthfully say UAD plugins compares to the best native options available today? 1B. Is there anywhere UAD still has the upper hand? If yes, where? Please elaborate 1C. It's been many years since the UAD-2 satellites were released into the market, how do they hold up today? Can we expect something new? UAD-3? 1D. Aliasing is an increasing concern to me, as I have become very aware I do not like it's sound. Does your approach to this stand the test of time? 2A. What are the limitations to a Satellite USB vs THUNDERBOLT vs PCI-E? Does it matter which you choose? 2B. An Quad/Octo, how many instances of high quality demanding plugins can I expect to use with these? UAD-2 DSP Chart TY kcatthedog 2C. Does the plugins demand more if they are say on channels vs busses? 3A. I spend alot of time finding the best deals for me and my needs. What is the best deal price/value? Satellite & plugins. How should I go about it? 4A. I understand Luna is your focus at the moment. As I am very happy with both my interface/converters and daw and would not convert to Luna. Will I as a costumer feel as taken care of as Luna users, if I'm just here for the plugins? Will I just be stuck with a aging system which is barely focused on anymore? This is what I could think of now. Thank you! 1a. I was a user first before I started working for UA. I think they're the best out there or I would not work for them. 1b. Everything we do is IMO the best version of it. Take the Distressor, many companies did one until we did and we smoked them all. 1c. I can't comment on future stuff, but I can say the entire UAD ecosystem still does exactly what's needed now as it did 9 years ago. 1d. Not sure what you mean. Many pros use our stuff daily to make hit records. That's enough for me. 2a. You definitely want PCIe over USB. USB has a lot of "overhead" and system interrupts. 2c. They do not. 3a. Hardware is sold through our dealer network, contact them for pricing. As for plugs, we do our big sales in June and Dec. While LUNA is a focus, as you'll see this Fall/Winter we have lots going on. I will say to buy based on what things are/do now, not some unknown future. You're welcome! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 7, 2021 20:55:51 GMT -6
I left UAD about 2 years ago now. They make great plugins but anyone who can't run a ~100 track session without DSP needs a new computer or interface with better drivers. (tracking vocals is a different story)  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 8, 2021 4:51:16 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 8, 2021 5:56:43 GMT -6
Don’t bother with a duo as it will run very few plugs ins, unless you just see it as a low cost entry option.
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Post by skav on Sept 8, 2021 6:02:41 GMT -6
Don’t bother with a duo as it will run very few plugs ins, unless you just see it as a low cost entry option. I thought the duo would be a dsp bonus if the plugins were worth something. No? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 8, 2021 6:43:04 GMT -6
The duo means you have only 2 sharc chips that do the processing. People, I know who had duos were frustrated by that and newer UA plugs can require more processing so again 2 is limiting.
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Post by skav on Sept 8, 2021 7:26:35 GMT -6
The duo means you have only 2 sharc chips that do the processing. People, I know who had duos were frustrated by that and newer UA plugs can require more processing so again 2 is limiting. I would be getting an additional octo anyway, so that's not the point. I was wondering if the card was worth getting for the plugins and the dsp card as just a bonus 😊 |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Sept 8, 2021 7:32:58 GMT -6
I left UAD about 2 years ago now. They make great plugins but anyone who can't run a ~100 track session without DSP needs a new computer or interface with better drivers. (tracking vocals is a different story) I would too if I still had my 2012 mac mini.  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 8, 2021 8:35:41 GMT -6
The duo means you have only 2 sharc chips that do the processing. People, I know who had duos were frustrated by that and newer UA plugs can require more processing so again 2 is limiting. I would be getting an additional octo anyway, so that's not the point. I was wondering if the card was worth getting for the plugins and the dsp card as just a bonus 😊 Well check which of those plugs in you would buy any way. UA has plug in sales all the time and sales with Apollos, sometimes you get a free quad or octo card or almost always now free plug ins. I'd say save your money and buy the card/plug ins you actually want . |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 8, 2021 8:36:46 GMT -6
The duo means you have only 2 sharc chips that do the processing. People, I know who had duos were frustrated by that and newer UA plugs can require more processing so again 2 is limiting. I would be getting an additional octo anyway, so that's not the point. I was wondering if the card was worth getting for the plugins and the dsp card as just a bonus 😊 Well check which of those plugs in you would buy any way. UA has plug in sales all the time and sales with Apollos, sometimes you get a free quad or octo card or almost always now free plug ins. I'd say save your money and buy the card/plug ins you actually want . |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 8, 2021 8:44:56 GMT -6
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Post by skav on Sept 8, 2021 13:52:47 GMT -6
Observation: the polls early day(s) were a bit skewed towards the negative. Now, it's opposite.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 8, 2021 14:15:17 GMT -6
The UA affect, resistance is futile !
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Sept 8, 2021 18:36:05 GMT -6
I think, until the launch of Luna UA, was making less sense for alot of people, but now it could be a huge competitor in the DAW market. Good future potential.
From way overhere it seems like every second studio in nashville is running an apollo system. I don't regret moving on from the UA echo system but it will be a great fit for many.
UA still doesn't help any with tracking VIs or amp sims and apart from verb and delay most peoples Vocal chains would be OTB.
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Post by skav on Sept 9, 2021 4:46:22 GMT -6
Just ordered an Octo Core PCIe. I have decided to try it out for myself. Less speculation, more testing 👍
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 9, 2021 5:46:23 GMT -6
And this way, you can thoroughly test it.
I think you get the 14 day plug in demo. If you test a few at a time, I think the demo period runs against each plug in ad you start it, so you could say compare in groups: reverbs, compressors, etc.: have fun!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 5:59:34 GMT -6
I think, until the launch of Luna UA, was making less sense for alot of people, but now it could be a huge competitor in the DAW market. Good future potential. From way overhere it seems like every second studio in nashville is running an apollo system. I don't regret moving on from the UA echo system but it will be a great fit for many. UA still doesn't help any with tracking VIs or amp sims and apart from verb and delay most peoples Vocal chains would be OTB. Unless you want to use the Softube Marshalls. The plexi UAD gives away with everything is mediocre but usable. The Kerry King is godfuckingawful for lack of a better word. |
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Post by Guitar on Sept 9, 2021 6:18:09 GMT -6
I think, until the launch of Luna UA, was making less sense for alot of people, but now it could be a huge competitor in the DAW market. Good future potential. From way overhere it seems like every second studio in nashville is running an apollo system. I don't regret moving on from the UA echo system but it will be a great fit for many. UA still doesn't help any with tracking VIs or amp sims and apart from verb and delay most peoples Vocal chains would be OTB. Unless you want to use the Softube Marshalls. The plexi UAD gives away with everything is mediocre but usable. The Kerry King is godfuckingawful for lack of a better word. I always thought Friedman Buxom Betty was the only good UAD guitar amp, better than most of the others. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 9:13:10 GMT -6
Hello Drew, thank you! Ok, you asked for it! Hehe.. Please don't let my questions rub you the wrong way, I'm just try to figure things out for myself. Forgive me for being a difficult person. My main interest is how UAD plugins can contribute to helping me 1. soundwise. Next is 2. efficiency and third is 3. cost. 1A. How would you truthfully say UAD plugins compares to the best native options available today? 1B. Is there anywhere UAD still has the upper hand? If yes, where? Please elaborate 1C. It's been many years since the UAD-2 satellites were released into the market, how do they hold up today? Can we expect something new? UAD-3? 1D. Aliasing is an increasing concern to me, as I have become very aware I do not like it's sound. Does your approach to this stand the test of time? 2A. What are the limitations to a Satellite USB vs THUNDERBOLT vs PCI-E? Does it matter which you choose? 2B. An Quad/Octo, how many instances of high quality demanding plugins can I expect to use with these? UAD-2 DSP Chart TY kcatthedog 2C. Does the plugins demand more if they are say on channels vs busses? 3A. I spend alot of time finding the best deals for me and my needs. What is the best deal price/value? Satellite & plugins. How should I go about it? 4A. I understand Luna is your focus at the moment. As I am very happy with both my interface/converters and daw and would not convert to Luna. Will I as a costumer feel as taken care of as Luna users, if I'm just here for the plugins? Will I just be stuck with a aging system which is barely focused on anymore? This is what I could think of now. Thank you! 1a. I was a user first before I started working for UA. I think they're the best out there or I would not work for them. 1b. Everything we do is IMO the best version of it. Take the Distressor, many companies did one until we did and we smoked them all. 1c. I can't comment on future stuff, but I can say the entire UAD ecosystem still does exactly what's needed now as it did 9 years ago. 1d. Not sure what you mean. Many pros use our stuff daily to make hit records. That's enough for me. 2a. You definitely want PCIe over USB. USB has a lot of "overhead" and system interrupts. 2c. They do not. 3a. Hardware is sold through our dealer network, contact them for pricing. As for plugs, we do our big sales in June and Dec. While LUNA is a focus, as you'll see this Fall/Winter we have lots going on. I will say to buy based on what things are/do now, not some unknown future. You're welcome! Good thing the Softube Kerry King is not on UAD. That thing smokes Jenkem. |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Sept 10, 2021 2:22:23 GMT -6
I think, until the launch of Luna UA, was making less sense for alot of people, but now it could be a huge competitor in the DAW market. Good future potential. From way overhere it seems like every second studio in nashville is running an apollo system. I don't regret moving on from the UA echo system but it will be a great fit for many. UA still doesn't help any with tracking VIs or amp sims and apart from verb and delay most peoples Vocal chains would be OTB. Unless you want to use the Softube Marshalls. The plexi UAD gives away with everything is mediocre but usable. The Kerry King is godfuckingawful for lack of a better word. Couldn't vibe with the UAD amp sims TBH. Mainly doing modern metal and alternative rock. NDSP is my go to at the moment. I do miss the UA verbs during tracking. |
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Post by skav on Sept 10, 2021 10:40:53 GMT -6
Received my UAD-2 Octo Core PCIe today.
Easy software and hardware install.
Had just a couple of minutes to play around with the 33609. Very good first impression overall.
Looking forward to spending more time with it!
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Post by Guitar on Sept 10, 2021 10:44:58 GMT -6
Congrats! You have entered the worm hole. I'm curious which ones will end up being your most used.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Sept 10, 2021 13:59:20 GMT -6
Received my UAD-2 Octo Core PCIe today. Easy software and hardware install. Had just a couple of minutes to play around with the 33609. Very good first impression overall. Looking forward to spending more time with it! Congrats and welcome to the family.  |
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