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Post by audioscape on Apr 28, 2020 16:09:31 GMT -6
Having a good ear + passionate about the work + in depth understanding of electronics/gear + access to vintage pieces + not settling for ‘good enough’ + understanding what’s important for the customer = good results You guys out there rock! If there is such a thing as a "Clone Wars", I am confident that audioscape is going to hold their own and come out victorious. @soundintheround - couldn't have said it any better ourselves! You're spot on with all of those observations and ethos behind what makes us in particular - "tick" - and why we've been as successful as we have been in such a short period of time. At the end of the day - it's about making great gear and ultimately, facilitating the making of great records that grace the listeners ear in a special way... We're taking the long road and plan to pass AudioScape down to our grandchildren one day... THAT is the American dream This is not outsourcing to some faceless, virtually nameless factory in China that builds analog gear en masse, ships it back to the US for some OTHER company to slap their own silkscreen design on it and throw in some Cinemag iron. To each their own, do and use whatever makes YOU personally happy, it's all good!! We don't ever want to come off as disparaging to anyone else who may be in the pro audio world - do YOU. Period. That's what really matters at the end of the day. Ward - THANK YOU, as always, for being a ROCK for us man... sincerely!
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Post by Ward on Apr 28, 2020 16:57:49 GMT -6
If there is such a thing as a "Clone Wars", I am confident that audioscape is going to hold their own and come out victorious. @soundintheround - couldn't have said it any better ourselves! You're spot on with all of those observations and ethos behind what makes us in particular - "tick" - and why we've been as successful as we have been in such a short period of time. At the end of the day - it's about making great gear and ultimately, facilitating the making of great records that grace the listeners ear in a special way... We're taking the long road and plan to pass AudioScape down to our grandchildren one day... THAT is the American dream This is not outsourcing to some faceless, virtually nameless factory in China that builds analog gear en masse, ships it back to the US for some OTHER company to slap their own silkscreen design on it and throw in some Cinemag iron. To each their own, do and use whatever makes YOU personally happy, it's all good!! We don't ever want to come off as disparaging to anyone else who may be in the pro audio world - do YOU. Period. That's what really matters at the end of the day. Ward - THANK YOU, as always, for being a ROCK for us man... sincerely! I believe in you and the work you do and the great products you make!! That first order on faith from Miami to Daytona Beach over the phone was the start, then bit by bit the consensus and momentum has grown! I am so proud of you all!
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Post by chessparov on Apr 28, 2020 19:31:14 GMT -6
(Cue Kate Smith) "From the mountains, to the prairies"... Chris
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Post by forgotteng on May 1, 2020 21:25:14 GMT -6
Lot's of fascinating reading here. I'm pretty sure I've fallen prey to every scenario here. I have UAD cards and quite a bit of outboard clone ware. I never had the option to play with the real stuff but started the studio game with no funds so I had to go computer and I had to build my own computer and figure it out. Then as I was wasting time as a Pro Audio guy at GC I started gathering hardware that no one wanted and my boss was too afraid to buy. So I would make a parking lot deal then trade a few pieces for a better piece etc. etc. Because I am a historian and love the craft I would study what was being used to capture the music that moved me and I started seeking out that gear hoping to capture the mojo and warmth and clarity. The more I mix the better my mixes turn out but I still hate them and am chasing better mixes. That being said I have fallen into the trap of having too many options and I agree that limits help you learn nuance and this game is so much about nuance. To me hardware is like really expensive guitar pedals. I'm not as much chasing that sound as I am chasing inspiration. Outboard provides that for me. I don't care if a KT sounds like a real pultec or not I care if it does something I like to my sounds. I like to turn knobs, I like pretty lights. I like warm VU meters. I like to pretend I'm a real recording engineer and mixer. It's a weakness I know. My clients are mostly happy I think but I know better. At the end of the day it's the chase that gets me. The quest. It's one of the stupidest, craziest ways to waste money.
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Post by Guitar on May 1, 2020 21:36:58 GMT -6
That last line got me, I love it.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 3:20:50 GMT -6
Real outboard gear or old looking stuff is great for flexing but my clients were more impressed by the gui of MOLOT than any outboard gear's case work. It looks like something you'd drop a nuke with and it makes drums hammer. Soviet radio aesthetic on a clone and I'd buy it for the case work and scratch the logo off. A lot of it is just not having the cheap crap anyone can buy so no Behringer or Warm or current Focusrites.
I've wasted so much buying stuff I didn't like and had to flip. I was looking at dbx compressors today to stick transformers in. A new dbx160a is 400 bucks. Wow. I'd take it over a lot of clones but wtf Samsung. An RNC is under 200 bucks and I'd pay 400 for a non 500 series balanced any day over a dbx unmodded.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 2, 2020 3:41:24 GMT -6
I agree with buying hardware, but not that it is a wasteful quest: hyperbole aside, because until you have used a piece of HW long enough to understand and use its nuances, you haven’t really got it yet ?
And until you get it, you won’t know why you prefer one piece of HW over another or one in certain applications?
So, I think there will be a natural winnowing of gear as you sort out your preferences, there are costs but I don’t see that as a waste, but the cost of real time learning ?
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Post by Guitar on May 2, 2020 10:26:29 GMT -6
Yeah I don't mind if something doesn't work out. It's information, knowledge. Then you can cross it off the list. Sometimes you can cross entire brands off the list.
Sometimes when I get a really terrible piece of gear it reminds me how lucky I am to have the stuff that I keep. That can even be more fun than getting something world class.
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