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Post by reddirt on Feb 4, 2023 23:22:06 GMT -6
I had forgotten all about those colors. In retrospect it was a sign of things to come. Blatantly thumbing their nose at the pro market.... Pandering to the bedroom crowd. Not sure the prices are "bedroom crowd" John . Not pointing any fingers but this thread has become a little "purple" IMO - largely speculation Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Feb 4, 2023 23:16:14 GMT -6
I see peeps not recommending larger ssd, too expensive get nvm drive, much faster, way more storage and cheaper The pro runs 3 monitors and has 4 tb ports. I know what you are saying KCatt but the on board ITB is significantly faster than the 512 according to the internet "experts" and in the event of my heading into swap territory I want to cover that easily - yes, $300 AUD more however an NVME and quality case will cost upwards of $250 AUD so to me it's a toss up and easier just to go on board for a little extra. Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Feb 4, 2023 18:15:06 GMT -6
Thanks for that KCatt - Not keen on a mini on it's side from an aesthetic P.O.V. so would give that the flick
As to a hub with storage, I've already got external Samsung T7s but might think about it as a Time machine drive though
Am thinking if I was to buy a mini Pro rather than the non pro it would already have enough T/Bolt ports and so I'd just want a T/Bolt hub to power 4 or more USB ports of 5 G/sec without compromise.
I am seriously considering a Mini Pro , 16 gig ram and 1 Terrabyte drive; what I record of others and also write myself would be similarly taxing as Wiz's projects and he's running an M1 Mini with 8 gig ram, 512 SSD. The M2 pro has a bit faster single cores and 2 more cores than the M1 so I'm thinking that should stop any 2nd guessing myself.
Biggest gig would be 30 - ish tracks with a couple having 5 plugs , the rest maybe 2 or 3 ; 4 group busses with up to 5 plugs each; 3 fx busses and that's basically it. If any of you folk see any issues , please reply.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 30, 2023 18:58:49 GMT -6
Not a very nice sounding Mic IMO , as others have said it's very mid focused (in a broad band way) and would probably only find favour in a specialist position whatever that might be.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 30, 2023 18:50:35 GMT -6
Wiz , do you busk at all - i could see this being really popular if you did a mix minus main guitar and lead vocal and busked in a good spot ; it's not going to get you a #1 but it will give a lot more people
the affirming experience of hearing what you do and you'll feel in return, a validity and reason - not just pissing in the snow.
I've just finished an album for a bloke ( Barry Skipsey) who's literally sold several thousands of CDs to tourists in Central Australia over the years - probably averages half s dozen each time {he plays sort of Australiana but low on Jingoism with some really good songs - 2 recorded by Slim Dusty ("End of the Bitumen" and "Good Heavens above);
He's in the process of negotiating this phase out of CDs paradigm but is getting an initial run of 500 printed for the new album and will heavily emphasise a new web site being developed right now where people can download under his terms if hey feel so inspired.
His plan next year is to tour nationally for part of the year and do house concerts / country halls / folk festivals . It's about educating the potential audience and ultimately connecting with them to the point they want to either buy CDs if that still suits but in most cases, access the web site for all that's offered ; it wont make him rich and famous but people need to hear it to respond and of course he sees the country and has a good life.
Not sure if it would work in any way for you but you never know - he's in his early 60's but is driven to get people to listen whatever way he can.
On a side note what computer are you using these days (Ram / Storage etc?) and how's it doing with these new recordings.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 30, 2023 2:09:41 GMT -6
Like it a lot wiz; great mix. Sounds, especially the slide are right where they need to be with a lovely relaxed swing overall. I'm in Jk's camp here - a slide solo with a slow fade is begging to be played.
Nothing to question - I'd be proud of that.
Cheers, Ross
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M2 pro
Jan 29, 2023 6:47:16 GMT -6
Post by reddirt on Jan 29, 2023 6:47:16 GMT -6
Why are you so concerned about swap memory: just the speed or that initial fear that these ssd would suffer premature failure: i thought a concern subsequently discounted ? Thanks KCatt - If I dont get enough Ram in the first instance then will swap memory be compromised by SSD speed? - trying to get what's right for me as apple's ram is so pricey. I'll certainly go at least 16 Gigs Ram but just dont know if in fact more Ram is spending unnecessarily and the perhaps few times I flirt into needing it could be taken care of with swap. . Cheers, Ross |
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Jan 28, 2023 23:25:26 GMT -6
Post by reddirt on Jan 28, 2023 23:25:26 GMT -6
The answer to that question is... it depends. It's true that the Apple Silicon unified memory RAM system can do a lot more with less than an Intel/AMD system, but it also means the distinction between RAM, swap, and processor usage is also a bit more fuzzy from the user side of things. You're never going to be upset you had more RAM in your machine (especially when it's 16 vs 24 or 32), and that extra $300 or whatever on the Mac Mini amortized over the life of the machine, say 5 years, equals $60/year. You think that's worth cheaping out on? Think of it as induced demand - less may be adequate for your needs now, but you will absolutely have a better experience with time as demands on computer hardware continue to increase. I've been a Mac admin for a long time and have purchased and provisioned thousands of machines, not once have I ever found extra RAM to be a frivolous expense in any situation, no matter the use case. Not ever. Use these benchmarks, find the sweet spot, and buy as much RAM as you can afford. BTW it looks like with the M2 Mac Minis that even 512 is just using 1 NAND chip so you'd need to get 1TB to get the faster read/write speeds. My question is : sure the SSD s are slower but still faster than most external drives so is that really an issue for audio files and another related question: does it become an issue if the drive is needed for swap memory? Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Jan 27, 2023 18:35:18 GMT -6
And then there’s the polar opposite: Take a guy like Lanois…a musical force who is technical and musical and definitely can’t be described as “hands off”! This is a guy who snatched Dylan’s guitar and smashed it over a monitor and yelled at him “I’m sick of your bullshit!” while recording “Oh Mercy”. In session, he will throw your cellphone across the room and tell you we are here to make music. He locked Peter Gabriel in his own barn and forced him to finish the lyrics to some of the songs on “So”. He is not there to f*ck around and while very unorthodox, he has an incredible and undeniable track record. I don’t know about you but I’d much rather listen to ANYTHING produced by Dan Lanois than something produced by Rubin. I remember reading an interview with Bono where he said, “the thing about making a record with Daniel Lanois is that the album is going to be great, or somebody is going to die.” I'll second that about Lanois, he obviously plays a lot of instrumental parts and his stamp is all over stuff but he's really rewarding to listen to. e.g. Emmylou's "Wrecking Ball". Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Jan 27, 2023 18:29:30 GMT -6
Thanks Kcatt, its a juggling act ; I reckon i might want at least 24 gigs of ram but am not truly sure i.e. 16 might do. The one nand chip means slower SSD performance (the M1 used multiple nand chips) and how does that impact swap memory particularly if 16 Gigs Ram is not quite enough.
Does a 1 terrabyte SSD mean 2 nand chips and possibly faster performance? or should I save money and stay at 512 Gigs SSD as i'll be using externals for audio work anyway.
To raise the ram on the basic M2 is $300 AUD in multiples of 8 Gig up to 24 Gig but if I went for the M2 Pro it's $600 AUD to go past 16 Gig - to 32 Gig (they don't have 24 as an option on the M2 pro) The pro then starts to become close to the Studio.
Given the single core performance of the base M2 and the Pro is not too far apart yet is obviously an improvement on the M!, is the biggest difference for audio in the M2 variants , the extra TB ports?
Questions, questions.
I've seen a lot of vids but none have totally answered those questions yet.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 22, 2023 4:49:15 GMT -6
Just trying to brain pick here ........
Are the extra 2 CPU cores and double memory bandwidth the M2 pro comes with over the basic M2, likely to be major players in what we all do?
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 22, 2023 2:35:38 GMT -6
I vaguely recall reading somewhere, about a studio control room with a producer's desk that had a knob on it that the producer could twist, to get more of whatever he wanted more of in a mix. Did I imagine that? No, it's true......there's an iconic Aussie song called "The real Thing" , the engineer was somewhat of a novice and the producer (Molly Meldrum) was asking for more excitement. At his wits end the engineer sought out the head engineer who was working somewhere else in the facility and asked him what to do. The head engineers got under the desk , pretended to connect a few cables to a fader, labelled the fader excitement and presto, the producer was rapt and the record came to be one of the biggest and most enduring hits in Australian music history. Recorded in the early 70's and still often heard today. As to the 60 mins story; I get where RR is coming from particularly the philosophy of the artist tapping in to the best of what is unique to them. Of course the value of the story was helped immensely by the ATCs on the meter bridge! Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Jan 20, 2023 16:49:15 GMT -6
My mac, aurora and logic: just work: who do I complain to ?  That situation is gold Kcatt - no worries is..... no worries. I still run PT 10 on Snow leopard with a MH ULN 2 and a Prism Titan over Adat and it works every time however the computor (2010 Mac Pro) is about to be retired to remote duties only (it has never dropped it's load but needs a new battery and am putting in an SSD as well) hence my interest in these new machines with all the questions and possible s**t fights that raises. The ULN 2 is firewire and while it's been terrific , is bettered by others so retirement there too. Can I achieve the same reliability? - that is the question. As to the M2 , I have 2 screens, so will probably go with a mini as the single core performance is improved as is the memory bandwidth and people such as Wiz are using the old one successfully. Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Jan 20, 2023 3:25:01 GMT -6
Sorry for you loss, Ross. Thank you Tony, kind thoughts. Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Jan 19, 2023 22:52:54 GMT -6
In so many ways IME , it's already a complex year. A musical friend passed last night after an oesophagul cancer diagnosis just 1 month ago and I'm providing my couch for a young person I didn't previously know who rolled her car 2 days ago on the long isolated roads we have here. ( barely a mark on her luckily). A lot to process already.
I just played this morning at the retirement home where the "clients' are only half a generation older than me - pause for thought , particularly if ultimately some young'un with no real knowledge of the times tries to play "all along the watchtower" and other 60s tracks to me in a few years.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 19, 2023 17:20:01 GMT -6
I think the PC vs. Mac decision at this point boils down to which DAW you are using. With Cubase, I would definitely go PC. Noise is not relevant Bradd? Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Jan 18, 2023 17:46:00 GMT -6
This guy knows his stuff
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 17, 2023 18:45:16 GMT -6
With my M1 Max, I have no reason to upgrade. It is a beast as is. What specs is it Rob? Cheers, Ross |
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Post by reddirt on Jan 17, 2023 15:22:31 GMT -6
They are so bloody contrary sometimes - if you go for the model with the extra ports then you can't have ( my sweet spot ) 24 gig of ram; you either stay at 16 or pay heaps to go to 32 which brings you close to the cost of a studio which has the max chip with more ports and faster memory bandwidth to name a couple of advantages that readily come to mind
The lower specced mini model will allow 24 gig of ram but it also means shelling out for a dock to cover the lack of ports.
1st world problems but not the result I was waiting for.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 13, 2023 17:03:16 GMT -6
FWIW , my band supported him (with Jan Hammer /Steven kindler/Tony Smith - same record company) on a 3 date New Zealand tour around '76 . It was his jazz rock era (error?) which I was never too enamoured of but still honoured to have done it. Was introduced to him in his dressing room by the promoter pre the first show.
Just one more anecdote to show the width of RGO collective experience.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 13, 2023 16:49:41 GMT -6
Thanks for the exhaustive reply 'young fella'.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 12, 2023 23:14:51 GMT -6
I reckon the vodka's good for you - no spelling or grammatical issues.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 12, 2023 20:38:07 GMT -6
A 3 piece quasi jazz record in about 1993 direct to Tascam Da 30 Dat using the pres in a Yamaha RM 804. Recorded in a restaurant after closing using the kitchen as a control room; mostly 1 take and the artists still love it today (I got very lucky)
Sennheisser 420 cans , Alesis monitor ones w/ Crown DC 300A for checking
Quadraverb
No compression.
Good Musicians, great songs , no pressure.
Sm 58 - vox
2 x KM 84 on piano
M88 kick
451 EB O/H
441 Upright bass
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 12, 2023 20:34:29 GMT -6
A 3 piece quasi jazz record in about 1993 direct to Tascam Da 30 Dat using the pres in a Yamaha RM 804. Recorded in a restaurant after closing using the kitchen as a control room; mostly 1 take and the artists still love it today (I got very lucky)
Sennheisser 420 cans , Alesis monitor ones w/ Crown DC 300A for checking
Quadraverb
No compression.
Good Musicians, great songs , no pressure.
Sm 58 - vox
2 x KM 84 on piano
M88 kick
451 EB O/H
441 Upright bass
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jan 12, 2023 19:12:15 GMT -6
You've probably said this somewhere Eric but other than building your own if you were buying today for a near/mid field do it all speaker, what would you buy?
Cheers, Ross
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