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Post by Johnkenn on May 11, 2019 14:08:31 GMT -6
What’s the word on these?
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Post by bram on May 11, 2019 17:24:31 GMT -6
I use them as near-fields without a sub in small/medium room. Bass response is tight and full. Mids on up are accurate without being sterile. My mixes have been translating well since upgrading from Yamaha HS8’s. I trust them to give me an honest picture of what’s going on in my mixes, and they sound musical enough to where listening to music for fun is enjoyable.
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 11, 2019 18:48:04 GMT -6
I’ve had mine for about 8 months. I really quite enjoy them but it’s taken a bit of time to understand them.
They sound amazing in the real studio sitting on the ssl meter bridge.
I had to do quite a bit of messing around to get them to work in my personal room at home but I’ve finally figured them out.
They go pretty crazy low for a pair of nearfields - I don’t generally like to mess with subs, especially in home rooms as I feel like you can just
Complicate an already compromised room node situation unless you’ve really got that taken care of already.
Can you bring some mixes and listen at the Nashville VK? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on them vs the Amphion.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 11, 2019 19:20:13 GMT -6
I’ve had mine for about 8 months. I really quite enjoy them but it’s taken a bit of time to understand them. They sound amazing in the real studio sitting on the ssl meter bridge. I had to do quite a bit of messing around to get them to work in my personal room at home but I’ve finally figured them out. They go pretty crazy low for a pair of nearfields - I don’t generally like to mess with subs, especially in home rooms as I feel like you can just Complicate an already compromised room node situation unless you’ve really got that taken care of already. Can you bring some mixes and listen at the Nashville VK? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on them vs the Amphion. I haven’t had the Amphions for a while. I have the ATC 12s...but I’m kind of hankering for active monitors. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 11, 2019 19:56:43 GMT -6
I’ve had mine for about 8 months. I really quite enjoy them but it’s taken a bit of time to understand them. They sound amazing in the real studio sitting on the ssl meter bridge. I had to do quite a bit of messing around to get them to work in my personal room at home but I’ve finally figured them out. They go pretty crazy low for a pair of nearfields - I don’t generally like to mess with subs, especially in home rooms as I feel like you can just Complicate an already compromised room node situation unless you’ve really got that taken care of already. Can you bring some mixes and listen at the Nashville VK? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on them vs the Amphion. I haven’t had the Amphions for a while. I have the ATC 12s...but I’m kind of hankering for active monitors. Oh wow I must have missed that you switched or forgot. Okay, so In that case, I dig the barefoot mids better than the ATC mids. The ATC is very pretty sounding where the barefoot is more In your face and revealing. Easier to eq on for me. I think of the footprint as having a very revealing top, and in your face mid not so unlike an NS-10, and a punchy and full bottom without the flabby thing you’d get from a ported monitor. They work great for the music I mostly work on (Americana and acoustic). I have a few friends that do lots of hard rock and they are WAY too harsh with heavy guitars to listen on all day. |
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Post by ericn on May 11, 2019 20:06:02 GMT -6
I haven’t had the Amphions for a while. I have the ATC 12s...but I’m kind of hankering for active monitors. Oh wow I must have missed that you switched or forgot. Okay, so In that case, I dig the barefoot mids better than the ATC mids. The ATC is very pretty sounding where the barefoot is more In your face and revealing. Easier to eq on for me. I think of the footprint as having a very revealing top, and in your face mid not so unlike an NS-10, and a punchy and full bottom without the flabby thing you’d get from a ported monitor. They work great for the music I mostly work on (Americana and acoustic). I have a few friends that do lots of hard rock and they are WAY too harsh with heavy guitars to listen on all day. This is where speakers are funny we both agree in your face but I find ATC far more realistic and Barefoot more edgy, and distorted. In reality it’s a different preference for how they both distort, and I really wanted to love the Barefoot’s, they go lower and yeah the active nature sure makes them simple. I find Barefoot to voice very much for rap and hip hop and ATC more towards Acustic music. Also I’m not sure how that ring radatior would work in your room. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 11, 2019 20:31:17 GMT -6
I should just leave well enough alone, but I do miss how pretty the Amphions sounded. And getting rid of the Sub and power amp would be nice.
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Post by reddirt on May 11, 2019 21:17:31 GMT -6
John, I know the Eve brand has not been elevated to the 'popular' tier and I l had not considered them but I listened to a lot of good speakers recently and have owned Amphion 1 15s and Neumann kh120 ; I ended up purchasing Eve 305s; price/ performance ratio was a factor;
outright, the best I heard were ATC 25s.
Just saying give them a listen - 2 x 5" drivers quasi sharing bass and mids a bit like the Focal shape 2 x 5 but with a more likeable tone for mine . They also make a 2 x 7" 307 which was great to listen to but had a bottom end IMO a little big for a small room near field.
The first things I've done have translated better for me than the Amphion and the Neumann's FWIW.
Go on, give yourself more to think about!
Cheers, Ross
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Post by ericn on May 12, 2019 3:31:00 GMT -6
I should just leave well enough alone, but I do miss how pretty the Amphions sounded. And getting rid of the Sub and power amp would be nice. I still think a lot of what we both liked about the Amphions in your room was the wave guides. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 7:07:55 GMT -6
Haven't heard the Footprints but i own the mm45's which work on any genre you can throw at them.
I bought a barely used pair for about the same price as the Footprints.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on May 12, 2019 17:21:31 GMT -6
I should just leave well enough alone, but I do miss how pretty the Amphions sounded. And getting rid of the Sub and power amp would be nice. How were the Proac compared the Amphions and ATC? I understand you upgraded to them from A7x (my current). Have you looked at the MicroMain45? Just from a parts perspective they use better drivers than the footprints. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 12, 2019 17:29:07 GMT -6
I should just leave well enough alone, but I do miss how pretty the Amphions sounded. And getting rid of the Sub and power amp would be nice. How were the Proac compared the Amphions and ATC? I understand you upgraded to them from A7x (my current). Have you looked at the MicroMain45? Just from a parts perspective they use better drivers than the footprints. It has been years...I remember the pro acs seeming harsher than whatever I went to from there...but can’t remember what that was honestly. |
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Post by Darren Boling on May 13, 2019 10:07:42 GMT -6
I only heard the Footprints and MM45 at VKLA compared to the ATC 25. Liked the MM45's more than the Footprints and liked the ATC's more than the 45's. Might just be my taste though as I also greatly prefer my ATC 20ASL's to my MM35's. True having to use a sub is a PITA but on the upside with placement I can keep a 500Hz null in check which I can't do with the MM35's.
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Post by svart on May 13, 2019 10:42:18 GMT -6
What’s the word on these? Did you check out my take on them in the 3 way thread? |
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Post by jamiesego on May 16, 2019 17:52:40 GMT -6
I've been using them since about October of last year. I think my mixes have improved. They seem to be very revealing of mix problems. Every other engineer who's worked out of the studio has had good things to say. I've noticed several mastering guys on instagram using them.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 22, 2019 19:47:36 GMT -6
I REALLY wish I hadn’t gone and listened to these.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 22, 2019 19:48:24 GMT -6
Biggest thing I noticed was the stereo image. Also sounded like they might be a little forward in the low mids.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 22, 2019 20:29:56 GMT -6
Only heard them once, but they were tight and BIG.The piano sounded full size, not smaller. I think it's a sound that takes getting used to. The ATC's were my favorite, but I sure would think twice about them knowing the Barefoots are self-powered.
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Post by svart on May 23, 2019 6:30:00 GMT -6
Johnkenn Did you happen to notice the tiny little sweet spot on them? I also felt there was a gap in the detail between the midrange and the woofer. I did feel that they pushed a lot of mids that weren't completely noticeable at first. Some of the music we auditioned when these were in the studio were a few of my older mixes and there were a few where the midrange really poked out too much, but I never heard that issue on any other speaker, and I don't hear that on the KH310's either.
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Post by adamjbrass on May 23, 2019 9:37:10 GMT -6
Very punchy lows
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Post by Johnkenn on May 23, 2019 10:45:49 GMT -6
Johnkenn Did you happen to notice the tiny little sweet spot on them? I also felt there was a gap in the detail between the midrange and the woofer. I did feel that they pushed a lot of mids that weren't completely noticeable at first. Some of the music we auditioned when these were in the studio were a few of my older mixes and there were a few where the midrange really poked out too much, but I never heard that issue on any other speaker, and I don't hear that on the KH310's either. I spent ten minutes with them at Vk...so not really. But I’m not sure I would recognize that anyway. I was just blown away with how rich the midrange was and how wide the imaging was. |
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Post by solic on Jun 8, 2019 15:32:54 GMT -6
Hey there,
Has anyone tried Barefoot MicroStack45!?
Thanks
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 10, 2020 5:52:57 GMT -6
Bringing this thread back to life as I am giving these a hard look. Those of you who use them, how often do you use the different models via the switcher?
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Post by jamiesego on Jan 10, 2020 7:31:19 GMT -6
Bringing this thread back to life as I am giving these a hard look. Those of you who use them, how often do you use the different models via the switcher? I use the auratone setting quite a bit and I definitely think it helps. That setting basically shuts off all the drivers except the four inch midrange. Sometimes at the end of a mix I’ll check out the Hi-Fi setting to see if the mix is too bassy or bright with the slight smily face curve. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 10, 2020 8:14:28 GMT -6
Bringing this thread back to life as I am giving these a hard look. Those of you who use them, how often do you use the different models via the switcher? I was all excited for that switch and the modeling - turns out when I first got them I was spending more time screwing around with the different settings than just learning the speaker. I unplugged it and put it back in the box so I wouldn’t be tempted by it. I’ve pulled it out a few times and hooked it up only to realize that I’d rather just have my set of ns10’s up to check against instead of using the modeled ns10’s. The barefoots seem to be messing with phase response on the auratone and 10 settings and it never sat right with me. Still working on my room as with the low end of the barefoots I’m getting a pretty serious node from 80 - 120hz. When I bring them to the studio they are perfect though - so I’d check to see if you can get a pair in your room as a demo to see how they work for you.
Also just to add, some of my buddies do heavier rock music (Bring Me The Horizon, Sevendust, etc) and the Barefoots did NOT sound great for that application. They are hard to listen to with those heavier distorted guitars. The mid bump is just too much and they were unpleasant. They work great for me though with what I do which generally has nothing more than an electric though a loud Deluxe Reverb
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