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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 1, 2021 13:44:50 GMT -6
Hi, my name is Vincent and ,,,,,  Been there , done that! |
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Post by Ward on Feb 1, 2021 14:38:52 GMT -6
CONGRATS!!! Do you have it or is it on the way? Let us know when you get it . . . also the Audio-Technica line attenuator is a very good idea with the audioscape V-comp as it can be quite high output. #ASAF |
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 1, 2021 14:40:44 GMT -6
CONGRATS!!! Do you have it or is it on the way? Let us know when you get it . . . also the Audio-Technica line attenuator is a very good idea with the audioscape V-comp as it can be quite high output. #ASAF Just placed the order. I'll let everyone know when it's fired up. |
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Post by audioscape on Feb 1, 2021 17:03:35 GMT -6
CONGRATS!!! Do you have it or is it on the way? Let us know when you get it . . . also the Audio-Technica line attenuator is a very good idea with the audioscape V-comp as it can be quite high output. #ASAF Just placed the order. I'll let everyone know when it's fired up. YESSS!! Thank you man!! ;-) We spent a long time tweaking the input / output resistor pad networks on the V-COMP circuit - compared to the original which has an INSANELY high output and same with input; barely turn the thing up and it's BLASTING. In my usage, the way we've tweaked the input/output is perfect, allowing you to crank the input and come down on the output to get some cool saturation happening. Only reason I could imagine using a line attenuator on the output is to PUSH the output to get more JUJU out of it - which is actually a really cool idea ;-) ❤❤😍🙌 |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 1, 2021 19:44:26 GMT -6
Just placed the order. I'll let everyone know when it's fired up. YESSS!! Thank you man!! ;-) We spent a long time tweaking the input / output resistor pad networks on the V-COMP circuit - compared to the original which has an INSANELY high output and same with input; barely turn the thing up and it's BLASTING. In my usage, the way we've tweaked the input/output is perfect, allowing you to crank the input and come down on the output to get some cool saturation happening. Only reason I could imagine using a line attenuator on the output is to PUSH the output to get more JUJU out of it - which is actually a really cool idea ;-) ❤❤😍🙌 Yeah I’ve noticed the input and output is different than the Retro. I had to kind’ve re-adjust my approach. |
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Post by audioscape on Feb 1, 2021 21:41:56 GMT -6
YESSS!! Thank you man!! ;-) We spent a long time tweaking the input / output resistor pad networks on the V-COMP circuit - compared to the original which has an INSANELY high output and same with input; barely turn the thing up and it's BLASTING. In my usage, the way we've tweaked the input/output is perfect, allowing you to crank the input and come down on the output to get some cool saturation happening. Only reason I could imagine using a line attenuator on the output is to PUSH the output to get more JUJU out of it - which is actually a really cool idea ;-) ❤❤😍🙌 Yeah I’ve noticed the input and output is different than the Retro. I had to kind’ve re-adjust my approach. YES! Absolutely spot-on observation, John! ;-) This is one of the very few, simple modifications we did to the original Gates STA circuit... ;-) |
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Post by ab101 on Feb 2, 2021 1:42:28 GMT -6
I have two audio-scape optos which I love. Please convince me as to why I should also buy a pair of V comps? Also, anyone using both together? Thank you in advance.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 2, 2021 7:31:46 GMT -6
Just placed the order. I'll let everyone know when it's fired up. YESSS!! Thank you man!! ;-) We spent a long time tweaking the input / output resistor pad networks on the V-COMP circuit - compared to the original which has an INSANELY high output and same with input; barely turn the thing up and it's BLASTING. In my usage, the way we've tweaked the input/output is perfect, allowing you to crank the input and come down on the output to get some cool saturation happening. Only reason I could imagine using a line attenuator on the output is to PUSH the output to get more JUJU out of it - which is actually a really cool idea ;-) ❤❤😍🙌 Is there a picture of the back of the unit anywhere? I want to check that I have the right cables, or place an order as needed. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 2, 2021 9:53:51 GMT -6
I have two audio-scape optos which I love. Please convince me as to why I should also buy a pair of V comps? Also, anyone using both together? Thank you in advance. Ah, cus V’s capture way more recording good luck than O’s ? |
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 2, 2021 10:03:42 GMT -6
YESSS!! Thank you man!! ;-) We spent a long time tweaking the input / output resistor pad networks on the V-COMP circuit - compared to the original which has an INSANELY high output and same with input; barely turn the thing up and it's BLASTING. In my usage, the way we've tweaked the input/output is perfect, allowing you to crank the input and come down on the output to get some cool saturation happening. Only reason I could imagine using a line attenuator on the output is to PUSH the output to get more JUJU out of it - which is actually a really cool idea ;-) ❤❤😍🙌 Is there a picture of the back of the unit anywhere? I want to check that I have the right cables, or place an order as needed. Its just Line in/out via XLR's |
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 2, 2021 10:09:46 GMT -6
Just placed the order. I'll let everyone know when it's fired up. YESSS!! Thank you man!! ;-) We spent a long time tweaking the input / output resistor pad networks on the V-COMP circuit - compared to the original which has an INSANELY high output and same with input; barely turn the thing up and it's BLASTING. In my usage, the way we've tweaked the input/output is perfect, allowing you to crank the input and come down on the output to get some cool saturation happening. Only reason I could imagine using a line attenuator on the output is to PUSH the output to get more JUJU out of it - which is actually a really cool idea ;-) ❤❤😍🙌 Can you talk a little more about gain stagging with the V Comp? I'm trying to learn what will give me the most and least amount of color. I'm still learning mine and so far have mostly used it on vocals as a hardware insert in my DAW. I'm finding that my input is usually between 12-14 and output between 4-7, using Single and Double modes and usually one of the fastest 2-3 attack settings. If I hit it harder from the the DAW, but back off the input will it clean up the sound or will it be the same as cranking the input? What would be the cleanest sound while still getting a moderately high gain reduction? Thanks. |
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Post by ab101 on Feb 2, 2021 10:11:17 GMT -6
I have two audio-scape optos which I love. Please convince me as to why I should also buy a pair of V comps? Also, anyone using both together? Thank you in advance. Ah, cus V’s capture way more recording good luck than O’s ? Seriously, for the super reasonable price of admission, it is worth a chance! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 2, 2021 10:40:40 GMT -6
Well they have a no questions asked return policy, why not buy one and demo it and see?
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 2, 2021 11:22:50 GMT -6
Is there a picture of the back of the unit anywhere? I want to check that I have the right cables, or place an order as needed. Its just Line in/out via XLR's That’s what I needed to know. Thanks. |
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Post by audioscape on Feb 2, 2021 12:31:12 GMT -6
Is there a picture of the back of the unit anywhere? I want to check that I have the right cables, or place an order as needed. Its just Line in/out via XLR's Correct! Very simple @vinvent R. ;-) Tbone81 - GREAT question! ;-) SO, we'll start with the easy one - getting the most color out of the V, you'll want to run it how *I* usually run mine, which is pretty extreme compared to most folks - what I will do is basically crank the input, sometimes even juicing MORE signal to the V using the "send" control in Cubase using a hardware insert, just like you (which, IMO - is the best way to use gear while mixing.. the extra trip of conversion is sonically negligible). Output will be lower, like you said, 4-7 on the dial - but basically as hot as I can get it within clipping my A/D... BUT, then we have to factor in the MODES and the RECOVERY times we choose. Generally speaking, the faster the recovery time is in conjunction with faster attack times (using the MODE - either DOUBLE - which is my preference 99% of the time, or TRIPLE which combined with a FAST recovery time will definitely give you the MOST color. If you want the LEAST amount of color with higher levels of gain reduction, again, crank up the input, BUT use SINGLE MODE and SLOWER recovery times, like 4th from fastest or so. FYI - the slowest setting is exactly what the OG Gates STA-Level's factory recovery time was. You'll find this slowest setting is VERY transparent, ZERO compression artifacts - just nice and clean, smooth leveling. Any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask! ;-) ALSO! ab101 - if you have a pair of OPTO's and love them, I HIGHLY recommend you try at least ONE V-COMP. I rarely use the V-COMP by itself on a vocal or bass. I'll almost always stack it (serial compression) and either put an OPTO BEFORE the V or AFTER (usually after). This combination adds a whole new level of elegance and richness to the sound. Since the OPTO and V are both great on VERY similar sources, it only stands to reason that using them in tandem on said sources could create a really cool sound, and.... it does! I like using my V's as transparent compressors that add a nice color and weight in ADDITION to another compressor. Usually it's the OPTO, but I've also done this with the 76A or 76F as well, and MAN... 1176 > V-COMP is an INSANE sounding vocal chain!! ;-) Hope it helps! |
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Post by ab101 on Feb 2, 2021 13:04:51 GMT -6
Well they have a no questions asked return policy, why not buy one and demo it and see? For some reason, I did not find this on their website, but I see audioscape liked your post, so it must be true. This is very good news. I know when I got the opto, it was "love at first listen!" By the way - "Everybody loves (Wednesday and) Saturday night." (Ok - is this humor too subtle?) I love watching the opening of the audio-scape offerings! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 2, 2021 14:19:01 GMT -6
Its just Line in/out via XLR's Correct! Very simple @vinvent R. ;-) Tbone81 - GREAT question! ;-) SO, we'll start with the easy one - getting the most color out of the V, you'll want to run it how *I* usually run mine, which is pretty extreme compared to most folks - what I will do is basically crank the input, sometimes even juicing MORE signal to the V using the "send" control in Cubase using a hardware insert, just like you (which, IMO - is the best way to use gear while mixing.. the extra trip of conversion is sonically negligible). Output will be lower, like you said, 4-7 on the dial - but basically as hot as I can get it within clipping my A/D... BUT, then we have to factor in the MODES and the RECOVERY times we choose. Generally speaking, the faster the recovery time is in conjunction with faster attack times (using the MODE - either DOUBLE - which is my preference 99% of the time, or TRIPLE which combined with a FAST recovery time will definitely give you the MOST color. If you want the LEAST amount of color with higher levels of gain reduction, again, crank up the input, BUT use SINGLE MODE and SLOWER recovery times, like 4th from fastest or so. FYI - the slowest setting is exactly what the OG Gates STA-Level's factory recovery time was. You'll find this slowest setting is VERY transparent, ZERO compression artifacts - just nice and clean, smooth leveling. Any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask! ;-) ALSO! ab101 - if you have a pair of OPTO's and love them, I HIGHLY recommend you try at least ONE V-COMP. I rarely use the V-COMP by itself on a vocal or bass. I'll almost always stack it (serial compression) and either put an OPTO BEFORE the V or AFTER (usually after). This combination adds a whole new level of elegance and richness to the sound. Since the OPTO and V are both great on VERY similar sources, it only stands to reason that using them in tandem on said sources could create a really cool sound, and.... it does! I like using my V's as transparent compressors that add a nice color and weight in ADDITION to another compressor. Usually it's the OPTO, but I've also done this with the 76A or 76F as well, and MAN... 1176 > V-COMP is an INSANE sounding vocal chain!! ;-) Hope it helps! Interesting...don't think I've ever gone slower than the middle on the recovery. |
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Post by audioscape on Feb 2, 2021 17:03:44 GMT -6
Well they have a no questions asked return policy, why not buy one and demo it and see? For some reason, I did not find this on their website, but I see audioscape liked your post, so it must be true. This is very good news. I know when I got the opto, it was "love at first listen!" By the way - "Everybody loves (Wednesday and) Saturday night." (Ok - is this humor too subtle?) I love watching the opening of the audio-scape offerings! HAHAHAH - I LOVE IT!!! Not subtle at all!!! ;-) We're easy man - if you're THAT unsatisfied with one of our products, there's a problem with the unit, LOL... Glad you like the way we do things! It still makes MY heart race when I post the listings on sale nights!!! 😂😜 |
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Post by audioscape on Feb 2, 2021 17:05:11 GMT -6
Correct! Very simple @vinvent R. ;-) Tbone81 - GREAT question! ;-) SO, we'll start with the easy one - getting the most color out of the V, you'll want to run it how *I* usually run mine, which is pretty extreme compared to most folks - what I will do is basically crank the input, sometimes even juicing MORE signal to the V using the "send" control in Cubase using a hardware insert, just like you (which, IMO - is the best way to use gear while mixing.. the extra trip of conversion is sonically negligible). Output will be lower, like you said, 4-7 on the dial - but basically as hot as I can get it within clipping my A/D... BUT, then we have to factor in the MODES and the RECOVERY times we choose. Generally speaking, the faster the recovery time is in conjunction with faster attack times (using the MODE - either DOUBLE - which is my preference 99% of the time, or TRIPLE which combined with a FAST recovery time will definitely give you the MOST color. If you want the LEAST amount of color with higher levels of gain reduction, again, crank up the input, BUT use SINGLE MODE and SLOWER recovery times, like 4th from fastest or so. FYI - the slowest setting is exactly what the OG Gates STA-Level's factory recovery time was. You'll find this slowest setting is VERY transparent, ZERO compression artifacts - just nice and clean, smooth leveling. Any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask! ;-) ALSO! ab101 - if you have a pair of OPTO's and love them, I HIGHLY recommend you try at least ONE V-COMP. I rarely use the V-COMP by itself on a vocal or bass. I'll almost always stack it (serial compression) and either put an OPTO BEFORE the V or AFTER (usually after). This combination adds a whole new level of elegance and richness to the sound. Since the OPTO and V are both great on VERY similar sources, it only stands to reason that using them in tandem on said sources could create a really cool sound, and.... it does! I like using my V's as transparent compressors that add a nice color and weight in ADDITION to another compressor. Usually it's the OPTO, but I've also done this with the 76A or 76F as well, and MAN... 1176 > V-COMP is an INSANE sounding vocal chain!! ;-) Hope it helps! Interesting...don't think I've ever gone slower than the middle on the recovery. I've experimented with the "OG" setting (slowest) a few times. Thing is, for most modern music it's just way too slow. You literally can't hear it doing any compression even if you're seeing 10dB or more on the meter. I myself stick to the 2nd or 3rd to fastest recovery settings 99% of the time - in either DOUBLE or SINGLE mode. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 5, 2021 18:42:54 GMT -6
It’s here. Going to rack it up tomorrow.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 5, 2021 19:00:35 GMT -6
It’s here. Going to rack it up tomorrow. Tomorrow? Wtf |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 5, 2021 19:13:00 GMT -6
in a New York minute ! |
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Post by gwlee7 on Feb 5, 2021 19:44:31 GMT -6
Charlie needs to stop with the it sounds even more awesome when run in series with a ________. Especially when I already own an Audioscape _____ and an Audioscape________. V Comp isn’t really on my list at the moment but now.
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Post by audioscape on Feb 5, 2021 20:07:13 GMT -6
Charlie needs to stop with the it sounds even more awesome when run in series with a ________. Especially when I already own an Audioscape _____ and an Audioscape________. V Comp isn’t really on my list at the moment but now. 😂😂 I apologize!!! Hahahahaha BUT... just being brutally honest in all my years of experience with these pieces of gear - I know them.........intimately. 😜😜 @johnkenn - LOL, RIGHT?!?! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 5, 2021 20:24:58 GMT -6
But it doesn’t matter many AS pieces you already own, until you do the V, your mixes will never be Victorious !!
At least, that’s what my pals, Dwight and Winston maintain !
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