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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 1, 2019 23:56:55 GMT -6
I've preordered a 660 as well as a 670 a few days ago and put down a deposit on both. So far I only have a recieved a "order confirmed" mail for the 660. I've recieved a order confirmation for both units, so I guess there are still some 670 out of 200 units left.
Apparently four more 670 spots left. Damn it....uggggghhhh |
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Post by EmRR on Nov 2, 2019 8:53:10 GMT -6
Tubes are an issue in that Fairchild's were always known to eat them like snacks. Lots of vintage reports of studios having to re-tube pretty frequently, as often as 6 months. Those are probably places that never turned them off, still...... Curious what modern tube life reports exist for users of Fairchilds and reasonably similar Fairchild clones. What about NOS tubes in new comps? Would it be possible due to better PSU(solid state designs) that the tubes last longer? Tube life is a function of current draw, and this design draws a lot of current for those tube types. It draws the most sitting doing nothing, it draws the least under maximum compression. Power supply doesn't really help that, the original already had a regulated power supply. 6BA6's are still relatively cheap compared to the eight 6386's ($1000 for new JJ's, or more for NOS) needed in a Fairchild 670, and they have to be matched for proper performance. You really need to measure current draw on a batch of tubes across multiple points of operation, which can be done with the Bal positions on the meter. Some make make an argument that more parallel tubes makes for easier matching because they average each other out, some may argue that one wildly out of spec tube may cause audible erratic behavior and be somewhat harder to find. At very least in a tube replacement/matching procedure you will probably need more tubes that required so fast to de-select the outliers. With sixteen 6BA6's that feels like a pretty slow process to get right and truly tweaked for best performance. When you could still get a Tube Equipment Corp. SR-71 they had a tube matching rig that generated and stored individual tube curve traces for matching purposes, and they could supply you with factory matched replacement sets too. |
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Post by stam on Nov 2, 2019 14:04:38 GMT -6
Has anyone heard these yet? Fairchild is one of my fav compressors of all time (based on mostly what I heard from other studios) But so hard to drop this kind of money without any decent demo showing drums/vocals/keys etc.... We have a 30 day money back guarantee policy and you can return it to a local US address. No demo will do it much service, you have to try these units at your own place I don't think anybody will ever return one, it's as good as it gets, we are only attempting to recreate that faithfully |
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 2, 2019 15:04:03 GMT -6
Has anyone heard these yet? Fairchild is one of my fav compressors of all time (based on mostly what I heard from other studios) But so hard to drop this kind of money without any decent demo showing drums/vocals/keys etc.... We have a 30 day money back guarantee policy and you can return it to a local US address. No demo will do it much service, you have to try these units at your own place I don't think anybody will ever return one, it's as good as it gets, we are only attempting to recreate that faithfully can you still get the mastering switches on it? |
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Post by chessparov on Nov 2, 2019 17:26:27 GMT -6
Doug, is that "tube draw" also true for Tube LDC's? Grasshopper asks.  Thanks, Chris |
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Post by EmRR on Nov 3, 2019 8:05:39 GMT -6
Doug, is that "tube draw" also true for Tube LDC's? Grasshopper asks. Thanks, Chris Sure, but they hardly draw a thing. |
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Post by EmRR on Nov 3, 2019 12:39:15 GMT -6
Doug, is that "tube draw" also true for Tube LDC's? Grasshopper asks. Thanks, Chris Sure, but they hardly draw a thing. They tend to minimize current draw because it is in itself a source of noise, and let a long time because of it. A Fairchild is a mini power amp; a single stage driving an output transformer. |
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Post by chessparov on Nov 3, 2019 12:50:18 GMT -6
"hardly draw a thing" So it's just like if I played Magnus Carlsen chess! (Just a 'umble Master here) Thanks, Chris |
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Post by damoongo on Nov 3, 2019 13:43:08 GMT -6
"hardly draw a thing" So it's just like if I played Magnus Carlsen chess! (Just a 'umble Master here) Thanks, Chris That’s “GM” Magnus Carlsen to you, sir! 😉 |
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Post by chessparov on Nov 4, 2019 0:46:08 GMT -6
LOL! Chris
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Post by wiz on Nov 5, 2019 17:38:55 GMT -6
I talked to Josh just yesterday, and decided to spring for the stepped attenuators upgrade, and also purchase 3 spare sets of matched tubes to put away.
He said, probably 3 weeks. I really don't mind if its next year.
I am honestly thinking about this box as a sort of investment (hence the stepped attenuator upgrade) as I am thinking that they could become a bit of a collectors piece.
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 5, 2019 18:21:50 GMT -6
I could see this being kind of an unobtanium piece...which really isn’t helping my lust for it.
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Post by geoff738 on Nov 5, 2019 18:25:57 GMT -6
Audioscape is teasing a 670 for next year.
so there may be other options. Time will tell.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by wiz on Nov 5, 2019 18:31:46 GMT -6
I could see this being kind of an unobtanium piece...which really isn’t helping my lust for it. Last i heard, a few days ago.. there were 4 670s left to purchase, and it has been said, no more to be built... of course that COULD change...... demand, and the like. I was one of the first pre orders.....its been a long haul LOL Cheers Wiz |
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Post by Bender on Nov 5, 2019 18:39:35 GMT -6
Audioscape is teasing a 670 for next year. so there may be other options. Time will tell. Cheers, Geoff And it's the only clone thats doing it with all 20 tubes ......Audioscape is going to do it right no doubt. American made, no back and forth delay/preorder/communication shennagins etc...
If had the money it's no question which business I'd rather support. Excited to see it next year though, he posted a prototype gut shot earlier on instagram  |
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Post by thirdeye on Nov 7, 2019 9:48:55 GMT -6
I am on the verge of cancelling my Stamchild with mastering option order, mainly for lack of communication and misleading me. Here’s the timeline of events.
-6/30/18 pre-ordered $500
-11/8/18 second installment $500
-6/11/19 added mastering switches $500 and was told I was in August batch
-8/7/19 contacted Stam for update
- 8/7/19 heard back-said they just started trial shipments and I’ll hear back soon
-9/6/19 contacted Stam for update
-9/10/19 contacted back by Josh saying September or October the latest. Said he was making one a day-hired more people to make 2 a day-said he would add me to the shipment of the next 19 pieces
-9/24/19 read Stam post on RGO saying it takes 5 days to build each one and 2 days to burn in, contradicting what was said to me in the email on 9/10/19.
-11/1/19 contacted Stam for update
-11/1/19 heard back saying I will be contacted on 11/4/19 with an update
-11/5/19 contacted Stam for update
*EDIT* - 11/7/19 heard back from Stam***
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 7, 2019 10:55:10 GMT -6
I talked to Josh just yesterday, and decided to spring for the stepped attenuators upgrade, and also purchase 3 spare sets of matched tubes to put away. He said, probably 3 weeks. I really don't mind if its next year. I am honestly thinking about this box as a sort of investment (hence the stepped attenuator upgrade) as I am thinking that they could become a bit of a collectors piece. cheers Wiz That is a good point. Will be a limited number of them out there. Audioscape is teasing a 670 for next year. so there may be other options. Time will tell. Cheers, Geoff And it's the only clone thats doing it with all 20 tubes ......Audioscape is going to do it right no doubt. American made, no back and forth delay/preorder/communication shennagins etc...
If had the money it's no question which business I'd rather support. Excited to see it next year though, he posted a prototype gut shot earlier on instagram Yes and all stepped controls. Likely be much more expensive than the Stam on due to all of this though. Id guess 5-6k minimum. I am on the verge of cancelling my Stamchild with mastering option order, mainly for lack of communication and misleading me. Here’s the timeline of events. - 6/30/18 pre-ordered $500 -11/8/18 second installment $500 -6/11/19 added mastering switches $500 and was told I was in August batch -8/7/19 contacted Stam for update - 8/7/19 heard back-said they just started trial shipments and I’ll hear back soon -9/6/19 contacted Stam for update -9/10/19 contacted back by Josh saying September or October the latest. Said he was making one a day-hired more people to make 2 a day-said he would add me to the shipment of the next 19 pieces -9/24/19 read Stam post on RGO saying it takes 5 days to build each one and 2 days to burn in, contradicting what was said to me in the email on 9/10/19. - 11/1/19 contacted Stam for update -11/1/19 heard back saying I will be contacted on 11/4/19 with an update -11/5/19 contacted Stam for update Haven’t heard back yet… Bummer man..Gotta be close though, I'd keep holding on! Seems they are making their way through them but they are quite labor intensive just from seeing guts photos. |
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Post by winetree on Nov 7, 2019 13:24:14 GMT -6
I was told June of 2020. So I know and forget.
Chill, you're way ahead of the game. Some day will come. I waited a year and a half for 1073s.
I'll take your place if you're giving it up.
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Post by msamper on Nov 7, 2019 15:41:04 GMT -6
I was told June of 2020. So I know and forget. Chill, you're way ahead of the game. Some day will come. I waited a year and a half for 1073s. I'll take your place if you're giving it up.
So June 2020 for a Stam 670 ? I can live with that, but somehow I expected it to be a bit earlier.
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Post by stam on Nov 8, 2019 5:06:41 GMT -6
I am on the verge of cancelling my Stamchild with mastering option order, mainly for lack of communication and misleading me. Here’s the timeline of events. - 6/30/18 pre-ordered $500 -11/8/18 second installment $500 -6/11/19 added mastering switches $500 and was told I was in August batch -8/7/19 contacted Stam for update - 8/7/19 heard back-said they just started trial shipments and I’ll hear back soon -9/6/19 contacted Stam for update -9/10/19 contacted back by Josh saying September or October the latest. Said he was making one a day-hired more people to make 2 a day-said he would add me to the shipment of the next 19 pieces -9/24/19 read Stam post on RGO saying it takes 5 days to build each one and 2 days to burn in, contradicting what was said to me in the email on 9/10/19. - 11/1/19 contacted Stam for update -11/1/19 heard back saying I will be contacted on 11/4/19 with an update -11/5/19 contacted Stam for update Haven’t heard back yet… Hello I am sorry you are experiencing problems to communicate Could you kindly forward me the last email you sent to stamaudio@gmail.com ? I will personally deal with this and give you an accurate shipping date that will be this year I am working on 50 of them right now and 50 more next month Yes, it is very labor intensive, 100 hours of work each. It was a bad idea for us to attempt to produce these units, it has sucked all our resources, delayed us on other units and financially we made no money, regardless, we are sticking to our commitments and hand making every one of them. After this they will be discontinued. I think we have only 2 spots left. Thanks |
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Post by stam on Nov 8, 2019 5:10:06 GMT -6
Audioscape is teasing a 670 for next year. so there may be other options. Time will tell. Cheers, Geoff And it's the only clone thats doing it with all 20 tubes ......Audioscape is going to do it right no doubt. American made, no back and forth delay/preorder/communication shennagins etc...
If had the money it's no question which business I'd rather support. Excited to see it next year though, he posted a prototype gut shot earlier on instagram My 670 sounds identical to an original, so I did it right. No? Having tubes on the power supply is completely redundant but if Chris wants to stay true to the original then that is the way to go I look forward to seeing his built. It will probably cost several times more considering the amount of extra tubes and transformers I am sorry you would not support our business, we are hard working people who leave our hearts on every unit, people all over the world are in love with our products. We are trying to catch up and have done every month |
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Post by thirdeye on Nov 8, 2019 6:14:14 GMT -6
And it's the only clone thats doing it with all 20 tubes ......Audioscape is going to do it right no doubt. American made, no back and forth delay/preorder/communication shennagins etc...
If had the money it's no question which business I'd rather support. Excited to see it next year though, he posted a prototype gut shot earlier on instagram My 670 sounds identical to an original, so I did it right. No? Having tubes on the power supply is completely redundant but if Chris wants to stay true to the original then that is the way to go I look forward to seeing his built. It will probably cost several times more considering the amount of extra tubes and transformers I am sorry you would not support our business, we are hard working people who leave our hearts on every unit, people all over the world are in love with our products. We are trying to catch up and have done every month Hi Josh, Sending you that email now. I also heard back from Camila last night, so thanks for that! |
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Post by thirdeye on Nov 8, 2019 14:19:18 GMT -6
I was told June of 2020. So I know and forget. Chill, you're way ahead of the game. Some day will come. I waited a year and a half for 1073s. I'll take your place if you're giving it up. One of the reviews on Stam's website indicates they ordered late January 2019, and received their Stamchild 6 months later. Pretty weird how someone can order 6 months after I did and receive their unit already. Maybe it's because of the mastering switches. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 8, 2019 14:38:37 GMT -6
I was told June of 2020. So I know and forget. Chill, you're way ahead of the game. Some day will come. I waited a year and a half for 1073s. I'll take your place if you're giving it up. One of the reviews on Stam's website indicates they ordered late January 2019, and received their Stamchild 6 months later. Pretty weird how someone can order 6 months after I did and receive their unit already. Maybe it's because of the mastering switches. Likely yes. From photos they are using standard Elma or Ultra tone switches. Which means you have to hand solder each resistor on and its a pain to do so as they aren't super easy to fit a resistor on in the first place. I'd be using SMD mount resistor Elmas that come pre built, or buy Elmas with through hole PCBs on them to make it easier, however, that increase prices a lot on an already expensive switch setup. |
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Post by oliviadolphinjohn on Nov 8, 2019 14:58:08 GMT -6
Its not the switches. Mine doesn't have them, and I ordered June 29 2018, and I don't have it yet. I'm guessing these might be people who took up Stam on the 'publish a review' deal.
I did hear from Camilla that I'm supposed to get it last week of this November and there was a delay due to more sturdy packaging they recently ordered to ship these in.
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