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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 19:42:01 GMT -6
So, I've actually been recording my own stuff (yes, really) for the first time in near a decade and it's been probably half a decade since I recorded anyone.. It's taking a while to get the wheels turning but I'm remembering slowly, slowly catchy monkey about what I like and my workflows / methodology.. Especially what I'm not so keen on.!
Hence I'd really appreciate some help getting this self recording studio down, especially now I believe I actually know what I want..
Firstly guitars, so it turns out no amp modeller will do it for me.. I've thought about a Suhr reactive load + IR and a decent amp, but the whole IR thing kinda puts me off.. I'm in an awkward situation where my current tracking room is quite small, it's well treated with the best room treatment I could buy and for vocal mic'ing there's no issues but when it comes to amps? I am moving house but it could be anywhere from six months to three years..
If I use a 60W amp in a 2X12 (like I did before, Laney IRT) I could get decent use able results but due to space and time constraints it was never ideal.. Hence why I thought about going IR, although I am VERY FUSSY if there's any sign it's not up there I should probably just mic up a cab..
Then Mic's, to be honest I can get away with 90% of the mic's on the market.. I'd have no issues with an SM58, although being fussy I want the best "quality" for my voice and TBH that's not seemed to fit too well with "high end" mics.. So far I tried a Chandler Redd, U89, Vintage U87, MD441 (up on E-bay if anyone's interested), MA-1000, AT 5040 (that's not including the one's I've sold (U67, SM7B, M149, GZ67FET)) 9 out of 10 times I preferred my ISK 2B or Senn 441..
The ISK tends to be lacking mids / only really works in less dense mixes, corrective EQ doesn't really make up for it.. The MD441 is a fussy mic, can also be "boxy" at times which EQ can solve but it's not a condenser.. Looking at the Sontronics aria which is like my ISK but better, although suggestions on that front welcome.
Finally I'm looking for a couple of channel strips (still), I recently got a 6176 for like $1200.00 (winner) and a kind soul loaned me a shelford channel for the week.. At this point I'm throwing caution to the wind, saying screw it and looking at building a lunchbox with either a Shadow Hills Gama / SH Optograh or an API 512C + Acme Opticom.. Now apart from the 512C, I have no experience with them.. From what I've read they do their own version of an LA-2A comp but what I used my LA-2A for mainly is getting rid of the shrill top pretty much every condenser mic imparts raw (well unless you sing like a mouse in one octave)..
@johnkenn I'm glad I didn't get the ELOP, I tried the Manley core and also recently had a DBX 676 whilst they were decent I would of ended up selling them.. Thanks for all your help though, I really do appreciate.
P.S When are you taking the gear stuff too far, I mean is **** like Shadow Hills being a little "excessive"? I can never decide whether to stay low end and crack the hell on, or just invest in the best and never look back.. Actually, seen as I keep making losses selling stuff probably the latter..
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Post by jampa on Jul 15, 2018 1:46:05 GMT -6
As I get older I go with the latter
I still look back but just not as much
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Post by jtc111 on Jul 15, 2018 6:07:32 GMT -6
P.S When are you taking the gear stuff too far, I mean is **** like Shadow Hills being a little "excessive"? I can never decide whether to stay low end and crack the hell on, or just invest in the best and never look back.. Actually, seen as I keep making losses selling stuff probably the latter..
The walk-up towards expensive gear can beat the hell out of your wallet. Having done that to myself, I think in the long run there are a couple of things that make sense to me now. For example... A Fearn VT-2 mic pre is expensive. But it's less expensive if you don't buy a Golden Age Project Pre-73, a Warm Audio WA12, and a Focusrite ISA Two to get you there. A Flea 47 is expensive. But it's less expensive if you don't buy an Audio-Technica AT2035, a Neumann TLM 102, and a Blue Kiwi to get you there. Disclaimer:I'm not endorsing or knocking any of that gear and most of what I listed are not pieces that I've owned; I'm just using them as examples. My point is that I spent a lot of money on less expensive gear and found myself either unsatisfied or curious about higher quality gear that I'd wind up buying in the end. Had I just jumped to the end game, I wouldn't have taken so many losses when I sold the inferior stuff. There are two drawbacks to that approach. First, you won't be buying gear very often so there won't be new shiny things to impress your eyes (and sadden your ears). Second, you'll have fewer choices when deciding what gear to use on a particular recording. But I'd rather be stuck using the same great preamp on everything than to have my choice of three or four less than stellar preamps. I've observed this about myself over the years: I've never been disappointed when spending money on quality gear. When I cheap out, I find myself disappointed often. The other solution is to buy used gear rather than new. Let someone else take the initial depreciation hit. The upside to buying used is that if you're patient, and barter to get the price down, you can usually resell it for very little or no loss. The downside is you're dealing with used gear that may have some issues so you'd better be diligent about putting any used gear you buy through its paces so you know right off if it's in proper working order. Just the opinion of someone who has bought a lot of less expensive new gear over the years only to find myself selling it at a big loss later. YMMV.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 15, 2018 7:52:55 GMT -6
Mics first. The right mic will sound good on almost any interface or preamp, especially since you have an LA2A already.
Just get a good small amp, like a Princeton reverb, Vox AC15, get a pedal if you need more crunch.
Get a preamp you really like. The Heritage Elite is a good deal, the RTZ will get you pro level results.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 15, 2018 9:09:04 GMT -6
I'm using three or four different guitar setups right now.
UAD Friedman Buxom Betty for guitar, UAD Ampeg B20 or SVT for bass (Only fake amps that seem to work for me... like needles in the hay.)
Marshall DSL100H full stack with 4x12. Bugera PS1 attenuator to control the fire. e906 guitar mic. /Marshall DSL40C 50 watt combo with Celestion G12M-65 Creamback open back combo. e609 microphone. These often end up left/right in my tracks.
Finally I have a 1968 Fender Showman running direct into the Two Notes Torpedo Captor load box/DI. I use Wall of Sound for my IR inside Cubase. OwnHammer impulses usually. This rig also works perfectly well as a bass amp.
For bass I have a Hartke LH1000 head on a 1x15 cabinet. If I'm tracking, I run the DI out the front of the amp into my Presonus Quantum, and maybe amp sims from there. This rig also has a pedalboard.
I get bored very easily, have always been a bit restless, so these all seem to get used in variations.
I'm rather surprised by how huge the DI/IR Showman rig can sound. It's very convincing. Gives the Marshalls a money run, for sure.
I would recommend any of these styles of recording. The Marshalls are my workhorses, the Fender is a newer setup that's starting to earn its keep.
I also have some Champs I rarely use. I feel like what I'm really missing is the Vox AC30S1. Just because I don't really have that "Class A" sound right now.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 15, 2018 9:17:27 GMT -6
Regarding the vocal mic, I have sort of become a "Find one that fits, and get married" kind of proponent. If the 2B Beauty is that one for you, no need to necessarily go out trying to beat it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 15, 2018 10:10:57 GMT -6
For mikes maybe you should think about Shannon or Tim if in Europe as you could get a mine tuned exactly how you want it: just pick the style you most prefer and work from there ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 19:21:16 GMT -6
As always wise and excellent advice.. Thanks everyone.!
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Post by Ward on Jul 16, 2018 14:35:34 GMT -6
This is a fascinating read and topic in general. It makes me wonder this: How much better do we incrementally capture and process audio and for what magnitude in investment as we move up the audio ladder? Is my U67 that much better than Martin John Butler's Stam67 that it justifies, what 6 to 8 times the cost? Are so-and-so's original blue stripes that much better than my reissues from Pro Replicas and Audio Scape that they justify 10X or more the cost?
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Post by Guitar on Jul 16, 2018 14:42:28 GMT -6
This is a fascinating read and topic in general. It makes me wonder this: How much better do we incrementally capture and process audio and for what magnitude in investment as we move up the audio ladder? Is my U67 that much better than Martin John Butler 's Stam67 that it justifies, what 6 to 8 times the cost? Are so-and-so's original blue stripes that much better than my reissues from Pro Replicas and Audio Scape that they justify 10X or more the cost? It's really about what is coming out of the speakers, when a fan is listening, and you are not there to explain. Nothing else really is significant, other than "to us, at the time." For some people than means owning world-class gear. For other people it means using the best technique possible with what they can afford. As good old Warren Huart likes to say, "creativity is king," and, "it's all about the song." Even as an engineer it's your ears and technique that matters significantly more than the specific equipment on hand. Of course that doesn't mean we shouldn't invest in a good set of kit, that's sort of assumed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 1:25:05 GMT -6
This is a fascinating read and topic in general. It makes me wonder this: How much better do we incrementally capture and process audio and for what magnitude in investment as we move up the audio ladder? Is my U67 that much better than Martin John Butler 's Stam67 that it justifies, what 6 to 8 times the cost? Are so-and-so's original blue stripes that much better than my reissues from Pro Replicas and Audio Scape that they justify 10X or more the cost? It's quite difficult to quantify, for e.g. my tastes have changed over the years.. At one point I tended to record modern(ish) metal (other bands not me, I've not recorded anything of mine in a decade) which mainly included either an SM7B or U87AI for vox w/ API pre's, a lot of 1176's and many an sim to get that over-compressed / fake / in your face / WOS thing.
Nowadays I'm just not interested in it (listening / recording or any other wise), but after so many years of one specific thing it becomes difficult to adapt to something else and to even understand what you like anymore. Especially when you keep taking long breaks..
The other consideration was, is high end really worth it? There's many factors here, one being I wasn't recording much so why would I keep all this expensive stuff laying about? Secondly I have some low end equipment that I prefer to anything costing $2K upwards, lastly pro-audio is on it's behind, every time I sell something I don't love it's getting harder to buy and very difficult to sell.
Then again as others said, you buy the stuff that's known to work and set / forget.. I've come to believe it's the cheaper option in the long run as opposed to a missmash of low / mid / high end..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 4:06:59 GMT -6
Sorry to double post here but did some experimentation with my newly purchased 6176 and wanted to post some thoughts.. It's amazing how much your chain can affect things, so I tried an AKG D5 on it first.. Heard some good recommendations on this mic but for me personally it's always been too shrill and lacking mids.
Sounds absolutely awesome through the 6176, now it's actually (or oddly for a toob strip) very clean sounding but has that toob saturation which brings things to the front.. One of my favorite mic's (the Mojave 201FET) sounds really badly phase aligned (no matter how it's flipped), I always thought it was a "muddy" mic that needed some cleaning up but this could of been the route cause all along. The impedance settings help a fair bit too..
We're not talking "subtle" here, I'm talking you're as deaf as a doorpost if you can't tell type of difference.
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Post by ericn on Jul 18, 2018 14:07:10 GMT -6
The home studio guy who records himself has a distinct advantage over the commercial studio owner, all he needs is the gear that works on him. The disadvantage is he is useally chasing a sound in his head, and also hears himself different than the rest of us do. It’s a completely different chase of the perfect gear that often ends up with suprisingly less expensive gear being the right fit. I can’t count the times multiday day mic hunts have started with the expensive useuall suspects and the promise of a nice commission have ended with the likes of an SM7, RE20 MD421 or 441 being that tone in somebody’s head. Over the years I have realized that for the DIY guy the the LDD’s slight compression and dulling of transients gives more of that “it sounds like a record tone” that most are chasing without to much work. I don’t think the average DIY guy realizes how much work most AE’s put in to the average tracking session, turning knobs and building a mix around the live track to see if it fits. The DIY is to busy singing or playing to do what an AE is doing in realtime. As a home studio guy you have to ask yourself this when buying gear, is it going to make it easier? Will it yes better Sonics ? Or am I chasing a myth that I really no very little about?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jul 18, 2018 14:57:48 GMT -6
To Eric’s point, anytime I’m tracking something at home I’ll get a trusted buddy over to turn the knobs. It puts me at ease as a musician to not have to deal with the engineering and I can concentrate on performance.
Just played acoustic on a track last week and the best mic wound up being a trusty 451. I’ve actually never gotten an acoustic sound as good as that myself (while playing) and I’ve had access to all the big hitters - 84, 54, 56, c12, etc.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 18, 2018 15:20:20 GMT -6
Oh yeah, the "trusted buddy" approach is a huge asset, when available. Lets you focus on being a performer, and gives a sense of safety and confidence. A little goes a long way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 2:02:16 GMT -6
The home studio guy who records himself has a distinct advantage over the commercial studio owner, all he needs is the gear that works on him. The disadvantage is he is useally chasing a sound in his head, and also hears himself different than the rest of us do. It’s a completely different chase of the perfect gear that often ends up with suprisingly less expensive gear being the right fit. I can’t count the times multiday day mic hunts have started with the expensive useuall suspects and the promise of a nice commission have ended with the likes of an SM7, RE20 MD421 or 441 being that tone in somebody’s head. Over the years I have realized that for the DIY guy the the LDD’s slight compression and dulling of transients gives more of that “it sounds like a record tone” that most are chasing without to much work. I don’t think the average DIY guy realizes how much work most AE’s put in to the average tracking session, turning knobs and building a mix around the live track to see if it fits. The DIY is to busy singing or playing to do what an AE is doing in realtime. As a home studio guy you have to ask yourself this when buying gear, is it going to make it easier? Will it yes better Sonics ? Or am I chasing a myth that I really no very little about?
It is pretty hard to ride faders whilst singing, although here's the thing..! I'm a trained and qualified AE for whatever that's worth nowadays (AKA not much), I have two decades of experience (nearly) behind my belt and I've had setups that did exactly what I needed at the time.
This definitely ain't a brag, or a promo.. It's a frustration, because I'm essentially chasing myself. Trying to get back to when this all seemed easier with good results. My first foray all ITB chasing the new generation was abysmal and whilst I've improved over the years it still sounds shit compared to the results I got on a desk with outboard and real instruments. Sometimes I'd honestly just hit record, rode some faders and all the track needed the basics (HPF's, some LPF's, a bit of parallel here and there, minor EQ plus verbs and delays) and it would sound awesome.
Everything I've done recently (as in last 5-10 or so) comes out with poor separation, unbalanced, weak / just plain wrong.. Now the more I go back to what I know the more everything is aligning again. Since I picked up my mixing console, it's probably the first time I've just played music and been happy with what's coming out of it.. Sure the chances of me owning another LFAC is slim to zero but I'm getting the emotional side of things back which is a breakthrough.
So, I'm not chasing the Unicorn or trying to find some mythological sound. It just so happens to from time to time you can come across cheap equipment that sounds damn fantastic, nobody questions it when Bono uses an SM58 but you find a cheap valve condenser that can go toe to toe with a classic then all of a sudden it's some sort of fallacy.. Admittedly it's bloody rare but it can happen.
Although the home recording situation is a paradigm shift, I no longer have a proper drum tracking room / I don't have awesome natural hall reverbs from rooms and I have to "make" do.. So you begin to question, is there any point investing in expensive gear when the chances of getting the best out of it is limited anyway?
I've come to the conclusion yes is the answer, the beaten path works and the rest I can "work around". That being said, with the climate as is I'm still not convinced completely it's worth it but screw it, I love it and that's all that matters ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) ..
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Post by spock on Jul 22, 2018 17:28:44 GMT -6
I think most people would’ve saved themselves a lot of money by simply getting their environmental acoustics dialed in first, then proper monitoring, both mains & headphone amplification. Once you have a space you can make informed descisions in, making evaluations becomes easier and the economy of time and expense lessens.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 22, 2018 17:46:05 GMT -6
I think most people would’ve saved themselves a lot of money by simply getting their environmental acoustics dialed in first, then proper monitoring, both mains & headphone amplification. Once you have a space you can make informed descisions in, making evaluations becomes easier and the economy of time and expense lessens. I'm pretty sure I went at it a bit bacwkards myself. Instead of a $1,500 vocal mic years ago I should have probably started with some $1,500 speakers, for example. The room treatment is very important, but the speakers themselves just as much, not as a secondary or subsidiary point.
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Post by winetree on Jul 22, 2018 17:59:10 GMT -6
The home studio guy who records himself has a distinct advantage over the commercial studio owner, all he needs is the gear that works on him. The disadvantage is he is useally chasing a sound in his head, and also hears himself different than the rest of us do. It’s a completely different chase of the perfect gear that often ends up with suprisingly less expensive gear being the right fit. I can’t count the times multiday day mic hunts have started with the expensive useuall suspects and the promise of a nice commission have ended with the likes of an SM7, RE20 MD421 or 441 being that tone in somebody’s head. Over the years I have realized that for the DIY guy the the LDD’s slight compression and dulling of transients gives more of that “it sounds like a record tone” that most are chasing without to much work. I don’t think the average DIY guy realizes how much work most AE’s put in to the average tracking session, turning knobs and building a mix around the live track to see if it fits. The DIY is to busy singing or playing to do what an AE is doing in realtime. As a home studio guy you have to ask yourself this when buying gear, is it going to make it easier? Will it yes better Sonics ? Or am I chasing a myth that I really no very little about?
It is pretty hard to ride faders whilst singing, although here's the thing..! I'm a trained and qualified AE for whatever that's worth nowadays (AKA not much), I have two decades of experience (nearly) behind my belt and I've had setups that did exactly what I needed at the time.
This definitely ain't a brag, or a promo.. It's a frustration, because I'm essentially chasing myself. Trying to get back to when this all seemed easier with good results. My first foray all ITB chasing the new generation was abysmal and whilst I've improved over the years it still sounds shit compared to the results I got on a desk with outboard and real instruments. Sometimes I'd honestly just hit record, rode some faders and all the track needed the basics (HPF's, some LPF's, a bit of parallel here and there, minor EQ plus verbs and delays) and it would sound awesome.
Everything I've done recently (as in last 5-10 or so) comes out with poor separation, unbalanced, weak / just plain wrong.. Now the more I go back to what I know the more everything is aligning again. Since I picked up my mixing console, it's probably the first time I've just played music and been happy with what's coming out of it.. Sure the chances of me owning another LFAC is slim to zero but I'm getting the emotional side of things back which is a breakthrough.
So, I'm not chasing the Unicorn or trying to find some mythological sound. It just so happens to from time to time you can come across cheap equipment that sounds damn fantastic, nobody questions it when Bono uses an SM58 but you find a cheap valve condenser that can go toe to toe with a classic then all of a sudden it's some sort of fallacy.. Admittedly it's bloody rare but it can happen.
Although the home recording situation is a paradigm shift, I no longer have a proper drum tracking room / I don't have awesome natural hall reverbs from rooms and I have to "make" do.. So you begin to question, is there any point investing in expensive gear when the chances of getting the best out of it is limited anyway?
I've come to the conclusion yes is the answer, the beaten path works and the rest I can "work around". That being said, with the climate as is I'm still not convinced completely it's worth it but screw it, I love it and that's all that matters ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) ..
With over 40 years of analog recording working on a console, +1 to all of the above. That's why I'd never part with my analog studio.
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Post by spock on Jul 22, 2018 18:30:19 GMT -6
I think most people would’ve saved themselves a lot of money by simply getting their environmental acoustics dialed in first, then proper monitoring, both mains & headphone amplification. Once you have a space you can make informed descisions in, making evaluations becomes easier and the economy of time and expense lessens. I'm pretty sure I went at it a bit bacwkards myself. Instead of a $1,500 vocal mic years ago I should have probably started with some $1,500 speakers, for example. The room treatment is very important, but the speakers themselves just as much, not as a secondary or subsidiary point. Yes together / combination thereof, the right monitors for the room too; easy to goof that up and overpower a space.
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Post by ericn on Jul 23, 2018 21:52:17 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure I went at it a bit bacwkards myself. Instead of a $1,500 vocal mic years ago I should have probably started with some $1,500 speakers, for example. The room treatment is very important, but the speakers themselves just as much, not as a secondary or subsidiary point. Yes together / combination thereof, the right monitors for the room too; easy to goof that up and overpower a space. Spock is right the monitors have to work with the room, so getting the room right first is going to make finding the right speaker a hell of a lot easier.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 25, 2018 16:33:07 GMT -6
Oh yeah, the "trusted buddy" approach is a huge asset, when available. Lets you focus on being a performer, and gives a sense of safety and confidence. A little goes a long way. Yeah, that's why I work with my music partner/lead guitarist. We have complementary skills sets and similar tastes most of the time. And neither one of us has a "more me" problem. We've known each other since about '79 and have been working together for the last 10 years, give or take a month or few.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 25, 2018 16:42:15 GMT -6
I think most people would’ve saved themselves a lot of money by simply getting their environmental acoustics dialed in first, then proper monitoring, both mains & headphone amplification. Once you have a space you can make informed descisions in, making evaluations becomes easier and the economy of time and expense lessens. It can be somewhat difficult when you rent.
Since starting to record at home seriously I've made it a point to look for locations with reasonably good sound to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 17:26:41 GMT -6
I think most people would’ve saved themselves a lot of money by simply getting their environmental acoustics dialed in first, then proper monitoring, both mains & headphone amplification. Once you have a space you can make informed descisions in, making evaluations becomes easier and the economy of time and expense lessens.
I mean nothing by this, but that's the sort of statement you post in the low end section of GS when somebody asks what mic or interface they should upgrade to.. Anyone who's been engineering for more than a year or two (in any fashion, not as a pro just even someone who wants better fidelity tracks) should know the shear fundamentals of acoustic impact.
Although I agree, disagree and everything in between with this statement.. I'm sure many will say this is a bold statement but personally I couldn't find a set of monitors under $1K I'd want to work with.. All of them were compromised to the extent you're guessing at some point..
On the flip side there's been many a track professionally mixed on a pair on a pair of Sennheiser HD's with <Insert whatever on the road interface here>.. So, what now? If they can do it, why can't you / we exactly? (P.S I'm not saying it hasn't been tracked through a metric shed ton of expensive outboard though ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) )
Also my other thought is, monitors / room treatment won't save you from VSTI's and less than stellar audio input.. My room is kitted out with GIK, even though it's a small room it has been acoustically tuned by a professional with volume recommendations for monitors etc. My monitors aren't on the cheap side either, I started out with a pair of Event Opals and moved onto Dynaudio LYD-48's.. Simply because I let the Events rot in storage for years.
Y'know what, if I had material recorded in a proper large tracking room with gorgeous natural reverbs and a couple of Schoep's CM's to get the full flavour I'd take the Senny's over a pair of Barefoots in an acoustically proofed room any day of the week..
Because simply put, my room sounds weird.. It's more like an anechoic chamber than anything else, it's eerily dry.. So I have to rely on fake delay's and verbs, which for the most part suck.
Maybe time for a Bricasti?! Many skip over the impact of effects and yes dry mic'ing is the new fashion icon but songs that lasted the ages have one thing in common, atmosphere. That for me is what truly seperates the wheat from the chaff and it's accomplished by a more "natural" approach, it's the glue that binds the player to the listeners emotion..
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Post by ericn on Jul 25, 2018 17:35:30 GMT -6
I think most people would’ve saved themselves a lot of money by simply getting their environmental acoustics dialed in first, then proper monitoring, both mains & headphone amplification. Once you have a space you can make informed descisions in, making evaluations becomes easier and the economy of time and expense lessens.
I mean nothing by this, but that's the sort of statement you post in the low end section of GS when somebody asks what mic or interface they should upgrade to.. Anyone who's been engineering for more than a year or two (in any fashion, not as a pro just even someone who wants better fidelity tracks) should know the shear fundamentals of acoustic impact.
Although I agree, disagree and everything in between with this statement.. I'm sure many will say this is a bold statement but personally I couldn't find a set of monitors under $1K I'd want to work with.. All of them were compromised to the extent you're guessing at some point..
On the flip side there's been many a track professionally mixed on a pair on a pair of Sennheiser HD's with <Insert whatever on the road interface here>.. So, what now? If they can do it, why can't you / we exactly? (P.S I'm not saying it hasn't been tracked through a metric shed ton of expensive outboard though ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) )
Also my other thought is, monitors / room treatment won't save you from VSTI's and less than stellar audio input.. My room is kitted out with GIK, even though it's a small room it has been acoustically tuned by a professional with volume recommendations for monitors etc. My monitors aren't on the cheap side either, I started out with a pair of Event Opals and moved onto Dynaudio LYD-48's.. Simply because I let the Events rot in storage for years.
Y'know what, if I had material recorded in a proper large tracking room with gorgeous natural reverbs and a couple of Schoep's CM's to get the full flavour I'd take the Senny's over a pair of Barefoots in an acoustically proofed room any day of the week..
Because simply put, my room sounds weird.. It's more like an anechoic chamber than anything else, it's eerily dry.. So I have to rely on fake delay's and verbs, which for the most part suck.
Maybe time for a Bricasti?! Many skip over the impact of effects and yes dry mic'ing is the new fashion icon but songs that lasted the ages have one thing in common, atmosphere. That for me is what truly seperates the wheat from the chaff and it's accomplished by a more "natural" approach, it's the glue that binds the player to the listeners emotion..
It is hard to find a pair of real monitors for under $1k, but the speaker guy in me hates, and I do mean hates to admit this but crappy speakers in a good well treated room more often than not sound better than great speakers in a crappy untreated room. As a simple aside so many active monitors especially inexpensive ones are handicapped by the crappy amps !
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