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Post by sll on Dec 3, 2016 20:17:50 GMT -6
I have not tried it. I think this was before he came out with the mod? Not sure what the mod entails? I have tried various values of the feedback cap, changed the output cap, and swapped out the transformer. Changing the feedback cap to smaller values makes it brighter, but not in a pleasing way. The biggest and best change has been from changing the transformer.
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Post by ragan on Dec 3, 2016 21:44:29 GMT -6
Ahh yes. I had read (and briefly participated in) that thread. Forgot you had commented on yours. I'm left torn on the "darkness" thing. I've fought 3-10k in my voice my whole singing/recording life, so "dark" doesn't really scare me off. And the clips I've heard compared to U87s (a sound I know pretty well) sounded right in the ballpark of what I would want. Like a U87i but a little mellower, smokier, softer sounding. Have you tried the Soothe plug? Might solve your problems. I have. Cool plug for sure and useful for what I'm talking about but it's worth some dough to me to find a mic that puts what I want to hear to tape in the first place. I can get good results with what I've got but I want...good-er results. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 3, 2016 21:57:41 GMT -6
Anyone on here with Max's U67 mod in the NYC area? I would love to hear my voice singing through this before I invest in it. If so, PM me.
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Post by ragan on Dec 30, 2016 23:05:43 GMT -6
I just got the TLM67/Max Kircher U67 circuit.
First impression is extremely favorable. Big, real and smooth as butter.
Need to use it more but I finally had the experience I've always wanted to have (and never did) where I put the mic up, sing a couple lines and go "ahhh...there it is". Really nice mic.
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 31, 2016 18:16:25 GMT -6
Nice.
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Post by mulmany on Dec 31, 2016 22:23:18 GMT -6
I just got the TLM67/Max Kircher U67 circuit. First impression is extremely favorable. Big, real and smooth as butter. Need to use it more but I finally had the experience I've always wanted to have (and never did) where I put the mic up, sing a couple lines and go "ahhh...there it is". Really nice mic. What do you feel the difference's are between your GZ67 and Max's U67? I would guess the feedback in the hi freq would be the big difference. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 31, 2016 22:39:40 GMT -6
Ragan, so you have a tube now in your TLM67?
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Post by delichef on Dec 31, 2016 22:45:56 GMT -6
Ragan, so you have a tube now in your TLM67? Max's mod is a replica of u67 guts...tube and all. The whole assembly slides right into the tlm67 in a couple minutes, replaces the old guts. |
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Post by ragan on Dec 31, 2016 23:04:38 GMT -6
Ragan, so you have a tube now in your TLM67? Yeah, like delichef said, it's not just retrofitting it for a tube, Max's mod is the whole U67 circuit, complicated de-emphasis and all. The capsule and headbasket and body are already the same so once you swap in the proper U67 electronics, it is a U67, for all intents and purposes. I had returned the TLM67 I had this summer because I wasn't in love with it. But this is a different animal. It's as exact a replica of a U67 as you can get. |
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Post by ragan on Dec 31, 2016 23:05:43 GMT -6
I just got the TLM67/Max Kircher U67 circuit. First impression is extremely favorable. Big, real and smooth as butter. Need to use it more but I finally had the experience I've always wanted to have (and never did) where I put the mic up, sing a couple lines and go "ahhh...there it is". Really nice mic. What do you feel the difference's are between your GZ67 and Max's U67? I would guess the feedback in the hi freq would be the big difference. Good question. I haven't compared them but I definitely will. The GZ67 is definitely airier. It's voiced after an m269. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jan 1, 2017 10:53:17 GMT -6
Ragan, so you have a tube now in your TLM67? Same mic setup I sent you links to when you were asking how to get into the u67 sound without spending $10k. The TLM 67 used with I/o audio u67 direct replacement drop in kit! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 1, 2017 11:28:06 GMT -6
Cool, thanks Chase.
Ragan, I've wondered many times about Max's U67 mod. I would absolutely love to hear one compared to a real non-modded U67. In the mic shootout I did with jeremy Gillespie last summer atThe Barbershop Studios in NJ, it was clear that the K67 style capsule was the better fit for my voice. We tried a perfect U47, and it was uh, well... perfect.
The thing was, the "flaws" in the U67 were exactly what I want my recorded voice to sound like. As huge as it gets, yet not too wide a pickup pattern, sibilant, but somehow not annoying, letting in a lot of natural high mids that made vocals feel incredibly intimate.
So.. that leaves me with only a few options if I want to have a K67 style capsule sound and pickup pattern. One, buy a proper U67, (not likely), two, find a U67 clone I like, (doubtful), 3) eventually buy a Soyuz 0-17, pricey, but not beyond beyond, like the vintage mics. The Soyuz is absolutely on par with a U67, just a little different. It has it's own sound, but you recognize the family resemblance. *The Soyuz 0-19 FET, gets you 95% of the sound the 0-17 tube version does at $2,000, or $1700 on sale.
This is where figuring out what to do gets complicated. The Soyuz FET would make anyone here proud and quite happy. Still, it's not a vintage U67, and properly would be a viable alternative to buying the $1,200 more expensive Neumann U87. The Soyuz tube mic is world class, and costs say.. $3,200. So, a used TLM 67 can be found for say.. $1800. with Max's kit, say.. $2800 after shipping, tax, etc.
The challenge then would be for me to have a Soyuz 0-19, a vintage U67 and Max's U67 modded mic and compare. Realistically, it would be great to just hear Max's mod compared to the original, then the I/O 67 compared to the Soyuz 0-17. They'd be close enough in price to make it a fair shootout.
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Post by ragan on Jan 1, 2017 11:35:04 GMT -6
Cool, thanks Chase. Ragan, I've wondered many times about Max's U67 mod. I would absolutely love to hear one compared to a real non-modded U67. In the mic shootout I did with jeremy Gillespie last summer atThe Barbershop Studios in NJ, it was clear that the K67 style capsule was the better fit for my voice. We tried a perfect U47, and it was well uh.. perfect. The thing was, the "flaws" in the U67 were exactly what I want my recorded voice to sound like. Huge, yet not too wide a pickup pattern, sibilant, but somehow not annoying, letting in a lot of natural sound that made vocals feel incredibly intimate. So.. that leaves me with only a few options if I want to have a K67 style capsule sound and pickup pattern. One, buy a proper U67, (not likely), two, find a U67 clone I like, 3) buy a Soyuz 0-17, pricey, but not beyond beyond like the vintage mics. The Soyuz is absolutely on par with the vintage U67's, just a little different. It as it's own sound, but you recognize the family resemblance. The Soyuz 0-19 FET, get you 95% of the sound the 0-17 tube version does at $2,000, or $1700 on sale. This is where figuring out what to do gets complicated. The Soyuz FET would make anyone here proud and quite happy. Still, it's not a vintage U67, and properly would be a viable alternative to buying the more expensive Neumann U87. The Soyuz tube mic is world class, and costs say.. $3,200. So, a used TLM 67 can be found for say.. $1800. with Max's kit, say.. $2800 after shipping, tax, etc. The challenge then would be for me to have a Soyuz 0-19, a U67 and Max's U67 modded mic and compare. Realistically, it would be great to just hear Max's mod compared to the original, then the I/O 67 compared to the Soyuz 0-17. They'd be close enough in price to make it a fair shootout. $1800 is way way high for a used TLM67. I got the whole thing (TLM67 and U67 kit) for a little under $2k. Granted I got a great deal but you can routinely find TLM67s for like $1400. And actually, I'm going to PM you  |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 1, 2017 11:39:58 GMT -6
ooh, that's kinds cool to know Ragan, and changes the game a little. I think it would be very helpful to know how the modded version compares to the original.
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Post by micman on Jan 1, 2017 12:54:55 GMT -6
Hi,my name is Larry I build mics and tube mics. I'm working on a ELA m 251 clone now. I'm designing the boards, and will be getting some parts shortly when I send the boards to the manufacture. I'm new to this forum I like the U47 for vocals. U87 I build as well. along with the C-12 any one of them sound real good. I do like the ELAM 251 www.oregonprecisionmicrophones.com-Larry |
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Post by ragan on Jan 1, 2017 13:50:14 GMT -6
Cool ad!
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Post by wiz on Jan 1, 2017 16:34:24 GMT -6
Hi,my name is Larry I build mics and tube mics. I'm working on a ELA m 251 clone now. I'm designing the boards, and will be getting some parts shortly when I send the boards to the manufacture. I'm new to this forum I like the U47 for vocals. U87 I build as well. along with the C-12 any one of them sound real good. I do like the ELAM 251 www.oregonprecisionmicrophones.com-Larry Welcome... stick around cheers Wiz |
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Post by ragan on Jan 1, 2017 17:00:43 GMT -6
I did several more tracks with the MaxMod 67.
I'm trying hard not to be all Honeymoon Phase but I am so smitten with this mic. It's like a sigh of relief. The sound I've wanted forever.
Soooo smooth but so clear and real sounding. Depth, weight. Just sounds 'right' for lack of a better term. I love the thing.
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Post by ragan on Jan 1, 2017 17:32:07 GMT -6
Your impression of the hi boost mod? I don't have it on mine. This kit was made before Max started offering that as a stock option. I'm planning on doing it though since it's only a couple wires to switch. |
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Post by Ward on Jan 1, 2017 18:03:52 GMT -6
This Max TLM67 to U67 transformation truly intrigues me!!
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Post by drsax on Jan 1, 2017 18:58:39 GMT -6
I've got Max's u67 mod on my u87ai. Sounds stellar. Stock it sounds great. The "modded" mod does open up the high end significantly. But I still prefer it in the stock position. Add a good sounding NOS Telefunken tube and it's even better. Max''s kit is a steal and a no brainer for anyone with a tlm67 or u87ai
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Post by ragan on Jan 1, 2017 19:01:20 GMT -6
I've got Max's u67 mod on my u87ai. Sounds stellar. Stock it sounds great. The "modded" mod does open up the high end significantly. But I still prefer it in the stock position. Add a good sounding NOS Telefunken tube and it's even better. Max''s kit is a steal and a no brainer for anyone with a tlm67 or u87ai What difference do you hear with the NOS Tele tube? |
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Post by EmRR on Jan 1, 2017 19:02:06 GMT -6
This is an alternate way to do the mod, if you want to keep the HPF switch. HPF won't function while the mod is active, but will while inactive. It's the grey square jumper there on the side of C3/C5. Any simple switch will do also, though not much will fit.  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 1, 2017 21:09:26 GMT -6
Nice blast from the past from Oliver!
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Post by drsax on Jan 1, 2017 22:28:57 GMT -6
I've got Max's u67 mod on my u87ai. Sounds stellar. Stock it sounds great. The "modded" mod does open up the high end significantly. But I still prefer it in the stock position. Add a good sounding NOS Telefunken tube and it's even better. Max''s kit is a steal and a no brainer for anyone with a tlm67 or u87ai What difference do you hear with the NOS Tele tube? It's just sounds a bit "more". A little larger, a touch more "vintage" sounding, made the mids a bit more rich and a just a touch sweeter and silkier in the highs. The PF tube Max shipped it with outperformed many others I tried, but I found a vintage EF Telefunken that definitely added something special. |
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