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Post by jakeharris on Dec 1, 2016 19:15:29 GMT -6
Whoah. Anyone know if they would ship to the US? No VAT I assume for me but would there be other charges? Anyone bought from KMR? That's like $1200 for a brand new TLM67. Posted an example in another thread with shipping and duties: realgearonline.com/post/110082/threadWas kindly told to fuck-off in that one, so left it at that
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Post by EmRR on Dec 1, 2016 19:28:42 GMT -6
Well that would be interesting. I read that Sennheiser prices are substantially higher in England than the US. It's usually folks outside the US paying more. Though, I did buy some Rycote shocks from Germany at about 33% off, still a deal even with increased shipping.
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Post by ragan on Dec 1, 2016 19:32:40 GMT -6
Whoah. Anyone know if they would ship to the US? No VAT I assume for me but would there be other charges? Anyone bought from KMR? That's like $1200 for a brand new TLM67. Posted an example in another thread with shipping and duties: realgearonline.com/post/110082/threadWas kindly told to fuck-off in that one, so left it at that Well you'll get no fuck-offs from me So there is additional shipping and maybe some duty fee of some sort (for me in the US)?
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Post by jakeharris on Dec 1, 2016 19:38:03 GMT -6
Well you'll get no fuck-offs from me So there is additional shipping and maybe some duty fee of some sort (for me in the US)? On average you'd be really unlucky if you get charged any duties: groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=64264.0
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Post by jakeharris on Dec 1, 2016 19:42:34 GMT -6
Well that would be interesting. I read that Sennheiser prices are substantially higher in England than the US. It's usually folks outside the US paying more. Though, I did buy some Rycote shocks from Germany at about 33% off, still a deal even with increased shipping. Here's Thomann (price in USD): postimg.org/image/le8hp7jpf/Shipping to US is around $30 extra
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Post by EmRR on Dec 1, 2016 19:57:23 GMT -6
Yet a Sennheiser MKH 40 is €1,666 ($1778) from Thomann, £1075 ($1354) from Canford, and $1199 from most US sources.
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Post by ericn on Dec 1, 2016 19:59:57 GMT -6
Whoah. Anyone know if they would ship to the US? No VAT I assume for me but would there be other charges? Anyone bought from KMR? That's like $1200 for a brand new TLM67. Posted an example in another thread with shipping and duties: realgearonline.com/post/110082/threadWas kindly told to fuck-off in that one, so left it at that They may not be allowed to sell Neumann or certain Neumann products to the US, even if their software lets them, it may get caught in order processing! Granted I haven't seen one in years, but Neumann dealer agreements are pretty strict! Now if by some means someone actually pulls this off at this price rule #1 of deals that shouldn't happen but do comes into effect: THE DUMBEST THING YOU CAN DO WHEN YOU GET A DEAL YOU SHOULDN'T IS BLAB ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE IF THE DEALER DID BRAKE THE RULES YOU JUST POSTED EVIDENCE TO THAT EFFECT AND PROBABLY GOT SOMEONE IN TROUBLE AND NOBOY WILL EVER GET YHAT DEAL AGAIN, PLUS AT SOME POINT THE PERSON WHO GOT IN TROUBLE WILL GET THEIR REVENGE!
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Post by jakeharris on Dec 1, 2016 20:21:47 GMT -6
They may not be allowed to sell Neumann or certain Neumann products to the US, even if their software lets them, it may get caught in order processing! Granted I haven't seen one in years, but Neumann dealer agreements are pretty strict! Now if by some means someone actually pulls this off at this price rule #1 of deals that shouldn't happen but do comes into effect: THE DUMBEST THING YOU CAN DO WHEN YOU GET A DEAL YOU SHOULDN'T IS BLAB ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE IF THE DEALER DID BRAKE THE RULES YOU JUST POSTED EVIDENCE TO THAT EFFECT AND PROBABLY GOT SOMEONE IN TROUBLE AND NOBOY WILL EVER GET YHAT DEAL AGAIN, PLUS AT SOME POINT THE PERSON WHO GOT IN TROUBLE WILL GET THEIR REVENGE! Speaking of deals that shouldn't happen, I'd love to see the bottom-line of US dealers without gray market sales to Europe
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Post by ericn on Dec 1, 2016 21:42:39 GMT -6
They may not be allowed to sell Neumann or certain Neumann products to the US, even if their software lets them, it may get caught in order processing! Granted I haven't seen one in years, but Neumann dealer agreements are pretty strict! Now if by some means someone actually pulls this off at this price rule #1 of deals that shouldn't happen but do comes into effect: THE DUMBEST THING YOU CAN DO WHEN YOU GET A DEAL YOU SHOULDN'T IS BLAB ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE IF THE DEALER DID BRAKE THE RULES YOU JUST POSTED EVIDENCE TO THAT EFFECT AND PROBABLY GOT SOMEONE IN TROUBLE AND NOBOY WILL EVER GET YHAT DEAL AGAIN, PLUS AT SOME POINT THE PERSON WHO GOT IN TROUBLE WILL GET THEIR REVENGE! Speaking of deals that shouldn't happen, I'd love to see the bottom-line of US dealers without gray market sales to Europe You would be surprised at how many will walk away if the dealer agreement says they can't. A quick sale isn't worth losing a major line that can generate a million or more! I know we were always very careful, sales to resellers when not allowed or out side of a defined territory are not worth the trouble and will bite you on the ass! Add the fact that people like to brag all over the Internet, not worth it !
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Post by jakeharris on Dec 2, 2016 6:01:48 GMT -6
Speaking of deals that shouldn't happen, I'd love to see the bottom-line of US dealers without gray market sales to Europe You would be surprised at how many will walk away if the dealer agreement says they can't. A quick sale isn't worth losing a major line that can generate a million or more! I know we were always very careful, sales to resellers when not allowed or out side of a defined territory are not worth the trouble and will bite you on the ass! Add the fact that people like to brag all over the Internet, not worth it ! US dealers ship worldwide on a massive scale; there really is no point in sugar-coating it, and it isn't a secret. Besides, this site or Gearslutz wouldn't exist if people didn't 'brag'. Why else would anyone go around posting they just bought a $5K microphone or $7K equalizer? For public information??
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Post by Ward on Dec 2, 2016 7:19:21 GMT -6
...SNIP... this site or Gearslutz wouldn't exist if people didn't 'brag'. I'll have you know, we all don't brag, sir. Why, I'm the humblest guy you'll ever meet, I am extremely humble, my humility actually humbles others. It's tremendous really. My humility or humbleness is YUGE. I don't come here to brag... ok, I can't go on with this, I'm laughing too hard.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 2, 2016 8:16:22 GMT -6
As someone pointed out recently, if you show back up in the US on a plane with more than $800 worth of imports, you pay duty on the amount over $800. Does it apply directly to packages? Can't say.
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Post by ericn on Dec 2, 2016 8:57:53 GMT -6
You would be surprised at how many will walk away if the dealer agreement says they can't. A quick sale isn't worth losing a major line that can generate a million or more! I know we were always very careful, sales to resellers when not allowed or out side of a defined territory are not worth the trouble and will bite you on the ass! Add the fact that people like to brag all over the Internet, not worth it ! US dealers ship worldwide on a massive scale; there really is no point in sugar-coating it, and it isn't a secret. Besides, this site or Gearslutz wouldn't exist if people didn't 'brag'. Why else would anyone go around posting they just bought a $5K microphone or $7K equalizer? For public information?? Not saying it can't happen. there are always new stupid dealers coming and going. Plus there are always ways around rules and exemptions, but the numbers of gray market coming from the US are not as large as you think and smaller than what comes into the US. Many products are fine to sell internationally, many are not. Even if you have permission these deals have a funny way of biting you in the ass. A lot of Gray product from "North America " is from South America/ Carribiean. A fair number of US distributor territories include these areas, and these areas seam to pass a fair amount elsewhere! Companies like Sennhieser will let you sell some products everywhere, others in a limited area, and well we made a mistake, can get you out of trouble if you get caught a few times. If you also happen to have a big order to place at the time or are willing to take a bunch of B-stock or discontinued product off their hands it's easy to be forgiven up to a point! BUT ! Rule #1 of deals still stands, the dumbest thing you can do is leave a public digital trail of a great deal , that's what PM is for !
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Post by Ward on Dec 2, 2016 9:00:25 GMT -6
As someone pointed out recently, if you show back up in the US on a plane with more than $800 worth of imports, you pay duty on the amount over $800. Does it apply directly to packages? Can't say. Nope. It's assessed on individual items. If you have one unit that's $1800, you don't get a free pass on the first $800 of it, you pay duty or import tax or federal tax or ALL THREE on the entire $1800. IIRC.... I've been out of the airline industry for about 8 years.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 2, 2016 9:06:20 GMT -6
Well, you pay nothing on a total under $800. In an airplane.
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Post by ericn on Dec 2, 2016 9:11:56 GMT -6
As someone pointed out recently, if you show back up in the US on a plane with more than $800 worth of imports, you pay duty on the amount over $800. Does it apply directly to packages? Can't say. Nope. It's assessed on individual items. If you have one unit that's $1800, you don't get a free pass on the first $800 of it, you pay duty or import tax or federal tax or ALL THREE on the entire $1800. IIRC.... I've been out of the airline industry for about 8 years. If you get caught! I was on a cruise , you have to pay duty on all jewelry purchases over a certain amount, but not raw stones. A accountant at our table bought his wife a very expensive diamond ring, and didn't want to pay customs or get caught. Being an Accountant he had to have the paper work so he was bitching about all $$ he would end up paying. On my advice he mailed himself the receipt and she simply wore the Ring off the ship! You would be surprised how much stuff is shipped out of country as media mail, if it passes the Dogs its good to go.
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Post by jakeharris on Dec 2, 2016 10:57:32 GMT -6
US dealers ship worldwide on a massive scale; there really is no point in sugar-coating it, and it isn't a secret. Besides, this site or Gearslutz wouldn't exist if people didn't 'brag'. Why else would anyone go around posting they just bought a $5K microphone or $7K equalizer? For public information?? BUT ! Rule #1 of deals still stands, the dumbest thing you can do is leave a public digital trail of a great deal , that's what PM is for ! I have no idea what you're on about... It's not a special or unique deal by KMR. That's what these things cost in the UK, in every dealership. If someone wants one, I'm sure they'll figure out a way
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Post by ericn on Dec 2, 2016 11:14:29 GMT -6
BUT ! Rule #1 of deals still stands, the dumbest thing you can do is leave a public digital trail of a great deal , that's what PM is for ! I have no idea what you're on about... It's not a special or unique deal by KMR. That's what these things cost in the UK, in every dealership. If someone wants one, I'm sure they'll figure out a way Maybe but not if selling it out of territory means no more Neumann, and that can be the price for getting caught selling out of territory!
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 3, 2016 19:00:20 GMT -6
I am seriously considering grabbing a TLM67 and dropping in Max's U67 mod. Am I nuts? Any of you guys used it? sll
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 3, 2016 19:01:12 GMT -6
Ahh yes. I had read (and briefly participated in) that thread. Forgot you had commented on yours. I'm left torn on the "darkness" thing. I've fought 3-10k in my voice my whole singing/recording life, so "dark" doesn't really scare me off. And the clips I've heard compared to U87s (a sound I know pretty well) sounded right in the ballpark of what I would want. Like a U87i but a little mellower, smokier, softer sounding. Have you tried the Soothe plug? Might solve your problems.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 3, 2016 19:18:23 GMT -6
Ragan its a great "donor" mike ( how fucked up is that comment) and a great mod: it just comes down to how you want to spend your money. I haven't read one negative review of the mod.
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Post by sll on Dec 3, 2016 19:33:38 GMT -6
I am seriously considering grabbing a TLM67 and dropping in Max's U67 mod. Am I nuts? Any of you guys used it? sll I did just that. It's very dark sounding. Thought that was the way it was supposed to be as that's what I was told. Got a real 67 now and it's brighter. Not saying the real 67 is bright by any means, but the TLM with the mod is in ribbon mic land for being dark. Real 67 has not been modded, still has original skin on the capsule even. I'm trying different transformers and that's helping. It's still not where I want it to be. That's about all I want to say about it.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 3, 2016 19:48:24 GMT -6
Thanks, Scott!
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Post by sll on Dec 3, 2016 20:00:35 GMT -6
Sure thing. It's possible my transformer is defective, but I was told that's how it's supposed to sound. Having the real deal side by side tells me otherwise.
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 3, 2016 20:10:57 GMT -6
Sure thing. It's possible my transformer is defective, but I was told that's how it's supposed to sound. Having the real deal side by side tells me otherwise. Scott, did you try Max's bright mod?
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