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Post by stratboy on Apr 5, 2020 11:02:35 GMT -6
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Post by MicRecorder on Apr 5, 2020 23:49:23 GMT -6
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Post by brenta on Apr 6, 2020 7:33:34 GMT -6
I think I’m gonna jump on this mod soon as well. Just gotta get ahold of the Neumann transformer. Shipping overseas may take a bit longer right now with all that’s going on these days. Don't you have a 67 Reissue too? I'd be keen to hear the reissue vs M67 with Neumann transformer. |
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Post by brenta on Apr 6, 2020 7:36:15 GMT -6
I've spent some more time with the MK67 w/ Neumann transformer and Telefunken tube. It's really blowing me away. I can't record anybody else right now so I'm recording my own song. The song sucks, but the mic sounds incredible. It takes EQ and other processing miraculously well.
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 6, 2020 10:45:15 GMT -6
I think I’m gonna jump on this mod soon as well. Just gotta get ahold of the Neumann transformer. Shipping overseas may take a bit longer right now with all that’s going on these days. Don't you have a 67 Reissue too? I'd be keen to hear the reissue vs M67 with Neumann transformer. Ditto! |
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Post by EmRR on Apr 6, 2020 10:52:39 GMT -6
I think I’m gonna jump on this mod soon as well. Just gotta get ahold of the Neumann transformer. Shipping overseas may take a bit longer right now with all that’s going on these days. Don't you have a 67 Reissue too? I'd be keen to hear the reissue vs M67 with Neumann transformer. And with the same head on both, same tube, as apples to apples as possible. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 6, 2020 10:59:49 GMT -6
I think I remember reading about the heads being a little different. But I don't know for sure.
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 6, 2020 12:09:31 GMT -6
For as much difference as tubes make in this mic, it'd be a hard thing to narrow down and attribute differences to any specific thing.
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Post by EmRR on Apr 6, 2020 13:10:30 GMT -6
I think I remember reading about the heads being a little different. But I don't know for sure. Pretty sure that's original 67 versus reissue/TLM67/U87AI. Pretty sure those last 3 are all the same. |
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Post by brenta on Apr 6, 2020 15:52:18 GMT -6
I wonder how much of a difference the power supply makes? The reissue and original power supplies with toroidal transformer seems a lot more substantial than the modded “t bone” power supply the MK67 comes with.
I feel like I got all the big things taken care of and at this point all the other things will add up to an extra 1% or so, but I have no idea. Capacitors, mic cable, and power supply I think are all that’s left to do on mine.
Anybody swap out the mic cable on theirs?
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Post by EmRR on Apr 6, 2020 16:03:42 GMT -6
I wonder how much of a difference the power supply makes? The reissue and original power supplies with toroidal transformer seems a lot more substantial than the modded “t bone” power supply the MK67 comes with. I feel like I got all the big things taken care of and at this point all the other things will add up to an extra 1% or so, but I have no idea. Capacitors, mic cable, and power supply I think are all that’s left to do on mine. Anybody swap out the mic cable on theirs? I have a Gotham cable, can't say I noticed an obvious difference but I didn't spend any time shooting it out either, just relegated the supplied cable to backup. I can tell myself it's clearer sounding, it might be. The supply could be better, but really, nothing else comes anywhere close to transformer and capsule, so you're right, extra 1% is what you could chase. A Hamptone TMPS1 would be one solid off-the-shelf option, I have one with my MK47 mic and it's really well built. There's a strong argument for lower noise with a regulated supply like that, though tube noise in of itself probably swamps supply noise in most cases. The MK47 is just a noisier mic than the MK67, so the 'better' supply isn't obvious in that one metric. |
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Post by ml on May 18, 2020 6:39:56 GMT -6
Has anyone compared the MK67 to the Soundelux U99? I did a song with a vintage 67 and that sounded awesome on vocals, but its way out of my budget!
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 18, 2020 8:38:01 GMT -6
Some of us are trying to put together a shootout, but with the lockdown, it'll take some time. What I would most like to hear is a comparison to the Neumann reissue. The vintage 67's, like all vintage mics can vary quite a bit in tone, but the reissue should be consistent. Vincent has am MK67 and we will compare that to the new SA67 soon. As for the Soundelux, I haven't encountered anyone who owns one yet. The SA67 hit all my targets, so I'm confident it will stand up next to anything made today.
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Post by drbill on May 18, 2020 10:42:32 GMT -6
The vintage 67's, like all vintage mics can vary quite a bit in tone, but the reissue should be consistent. Vincent has am MK67 and we will compare that to the new SA67 soon. Actually Martin, the re-issues seem to be all over the map. If you have a legit mic repair guy, the vintage 67's that are STOCK are incredibly similar sounding. Like I mentioned, capitol has almost 20, and you could pick any one of them and punch in a vocal done on one of the others. At least you used to be able to. Haven't been there for awhile. |
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Post by porkyman on May 18, 2020 10:54:28 GMT -6
I got mine. It shipped in 2 days from Chile to LA. What the hell is wrong with all the other carriers.
Haven’t tried it yet but I like how it comes in a carry case. Super cool.
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Post by chessparov on May 18, 2020 15:17:53 GMT -6
Has anyone compared the MK67 to the Soundelux U99? I did a song with a vintage 67 and that sounded awesome on vocals, but its way out of my budget! Don't own a U99, but have the new FET version, with the same capsule (U195). Quite familiar with the new U99's sound also (on me). Will post more tonight, after work. Excellent choice as a U67 RI alternative IMHO. Chinese capsule, but Bock QC's the heck out of it. VERY good sounding capsule Chris P.S. Roundbadge knows a lot more than me, for U99 general useage. |
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Post by chessparov on May 18, 2020 15:31:46 GMT -6
OK sneaking in a quick clip, on the U195. The U99 has a similar fullness/presence. But the U99 sounds different enough otherwise from the U195, as it's a true tube mic. I thought it was smoooooth. U195 FLAT is cool for "modern" vocals. What's interesting is that the U195, set on the FAT switch, the tonality moves towards U47-ish territory rather than U67-Even though it's a K67 style capsule. Major difference between FLAT & FAT mode here. Whereas the "U67-ish" U99 sounds much more similar in FLAT vs. FAT mode. BTW I was ill, Pre-Corona Era (not the Beer!). So hopefully, you can hear past that. Chris |
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 18, 2020 18:03:02 GMT -6
The vintage 67's, like all vintage mics can vary quite a bit in tone, but the reissue should be consistent. Vincent has am MK67 and we will compare that to the new SA67 soon. Actually Martin, the re-issues seem to be all over the map. If you have a legit mic repair guy, the vintage 67's that are STOCK are incredibly similar sounding. Like I mentioned, capitol has almost 20, and you could pick any one of them and punch in a vocal done on one of the others. At least you used to be able to. Haven't been there for a while. That's good to know, thanks drbill. I vaguely recall Max writing about capsule inconsistency, now that you mention it. That's one reason I'd like to hear the SA67 next to the Neumann reissue. I have a suspicion the SA67 is as good or better. At least Vincent and I will get a chance to compare the SA67 to his Max Mod 67 with the Neumann transformer. One U67 I tried a few years back had some special qualities I've been looking for in my own mic. The Chandler had it, and thankfully, the SA67 has some real mojo too. I need to use it a lot more over a few months to really know it, but I'm actually beginning to prefer the sound of the SA67 in the demo track I posted. The Chandler is a little smoother, but the SA67 has real balls. Of course they're different things, but comparing helps me see just where the new mic fits in. |
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Post by ml on May 19, 2020 6:58:34 GMT -6
OK sneaking in a quick clip, on the U195. The U99 has a similar fullness/presence. But the U99 sounds different enough otherwise from the U195, as it's a true tube mic. I thought it was smoooooth. U195 FLAT is cool for "modern" vocals. What's interesting is that the U195, set on the FAT switch, the tonality moves towards U47-ish territory rather than U67-Even though it's a K67 style capsule. Major difference between FLAT & FAT mode here. Whereas the "U67-ish" U99 sounds much more similar in FLAT vs. FAT mode. BTW I was ill, Pre-Corona Era (not the Beer!). So hopefully, you can hear past that. Chris I'm gonna see if i can get a demo of the u99. The SA-67 looks interesting too. I also like the idea of the MK67 because i don't have an 87 and the mod would give me two mics in one. The turn off with the MM is i cant demo it and i need to buy the mic first then the mod just to try it. |
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Post by Vincent R. on May 19, 2020 7:03:38 GMT -6
If you do go with the MK67 I would recommend you also be prepared to modify it with the Neumann BV12 transformer and roll a couple of EF86 tubes. That takes the MK67 to a whole other level. Mine is crazy good. I love that it makes my U87ai so much more flexible.
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Post by Darren Boling on Jul 16, 2020 13:30:56 GMT -6
What US sources are there for the BV12? I did a quick search as well as checked Sennheiser's US site. I'm guessing I could call some shops but thought someone here might have the info. I have my UK buddy lined up to help me get it if needed but thought I'd weigh US options against his added VAT price and inconvenience before going down that route. Now wishing I didn't procrastinate on ordering a few months back. Doh!
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 16, 2020 17:01:32 GMT -6
What US sources are there for the BV12? I did a quick search as well as checked Sennheiser's US site. I'm guessing I could call some shops but thought someone here might have the info. I have my UK buddy lined up to help me get it if needed but thought I'd weigh US options against his added VAT price and inconvenience before going down that route. Now wishing I didn't procrastinate on ordering a few months back. Doh! As of this month, you can’t order direct from Senn/Neumann, at least not in the U.S. michaelcleary might be able to help you out. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 16, 2020 20:27:02 GMT -6
I wonder how all this will affect Independent repair people, who work on Neumann's?
Chris
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Post by Darren Boling on Jul 16, 2020 20:52:35 GMT -6
ProAudioLA is checking into it for me. I'll keep everyone posted.
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Post by brenta on Jul 17, 2020 6:00:36 GMT -6
IIRC the UK price with VAT is pretty close to the US price. Most of the savings was that US purchasers don’t have to pay VAT.
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