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Post by indiehouse on May 16, 2017 21:02:41 GMT -6
Yeah, but no TLM 67 guts, which is worth some hundreds, too. Is it? I didn't really realize that. I've had people offer them to me for free. Either way, $3750 is sky high. I've seen them up in the classifieds, Reverb, eBay, etc. from time to time for 3-400 bones. I think I remember people mentioning selling them on the MaxMod GS thread, too. I mean, I guess if someone wanted to pay me 3-400 dollars for mine, I'd sell it. I'm not using it at all. Hell, if someone wanted to pay me $3750 for the whole mic, I'd sell it!
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Post by EmRR on May 17, 2017 6:58:19 GMT -6
I'd take a free/cheap tlm67 guts.....
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 17, 2017 7:18:39 GMT -6
I'd take a free/cheap tlm67 guts..... Seriously. I'm sure I could figure out some use for them.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 17, 2017 8:05:42 GMT -6
I'd take a free/cheap tlm67 guts..... Seriously. I'm sure I could figure out some use for them. Me too.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 17, 2017 14:32:14 GMT -6
Finally finished my crooning vocal microphone shoot out. No video this time. I actually made this recording quickly before recording the "Mona Lisa" video. Microphones are an Altec 639A ribbon mic, Slate VMS FG-47, Advanced Audio CM49, and the MK U67.
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Post by ChaseUTB on May 17, 2017 20:52:11 GMT -6
Altec clips at 1:24 Slate sounds supremely clipped or overloaded at 3:08-3:15 Aa cm49 clips and overloads at 4:37....
I would def check your gain staging if these are non processed vocals. If they are processed check your processing to make sure you aren't overloading any HW or plugins... kinda hard to form an opinion on this one...
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Post by Vincent R. on May 18, 2017 5:42:44 GMT -6
ChaseUTB , I honestly don't hear any clipping here. I only hear tube saturation from the tube preamp emulation (UAD 610B) or even the tube mics themselves, and I hear a plosive issue happening with my cheek. I could be wrong, but that's what I hear. I also tried to bounce the raw files as loudly as possible without using a limited to bring up the volume. It's entirely possible it clipped then. Heck it could even be iMovie's audio settings.
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Post by drsax on May 18, 2017 8:39:44 GMT -6
Finally finished my crooning vocal microphone shoot out. No video this time. I actually made this recording quickly before recording the "Mona Lisa" video. Microphones are an Altec 639A ribbon mic, Slate VMS FG-47, Advanced Audio CM49, and the MK U67. Cool shootout Vincent. I like them all, especially the Max Mod 67. Slate was my least favorite in this shootout. I can see where the slate might be ok for bright pop vocals except for the sibilance. MK67 felt well balanced, had depth, and handled the plosives and esses the best.
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Post by EmRR on May 18, 2017 18:38:31 GMT -6
Does that 639 have a new ribbon? Slate seems super mono extra thin horizontal image. CM49 seems to immediately sound wider somehow, as does the 67. As far as I can tell, your 67 sounds pretty close to mine.
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Post by ragan on May 18, 2017 20:26:15 GMT -6
Does that 639 have a new ribbon? Slate seems super mono extra thin horizontal image. CM49 seems to immediately sound wider somehow, as does the 67. As far as I can tell, your 67 sounds pretty close to mine. Comports with my experience. I wasn't impressed with the VMS. Sounded like a plugin to me.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 18, 2017 20:55:07 GMT -6
Does that 639 have a new ribbon? Slate seems super mono extra thin horizontal image. CM49 seems to immediately sound wider somehow, as does the 67. As far as I can tell, your 67 sounds pretty close to mine. Yes it was reribboned by AEA Microphones last year. Good to know the kits are fairly consistent.
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Post by Ward on May 20, 2017 8:10:43 GMT -6
That max Mod 67 is just something else!! WOW.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 20, 2017 8:23:06 GMT -6
That max Mod 67 is just something else!! WOW. It really is. You need to use some EQ to shape the sound, but the response is so neutral that you can easily make it what you want it to be. I just got my EF86 tube from Bowie. Looking forward to checking it out. Going to be playing around with a bunch of mics in the studio today with a friend of mine. He's bringing his Flea 47 & Blue Kiwi over. The Kiwi is a brighter mic than the U87ai, but sound really nice and polished on everything I ever through at it. Also, just received an Advanced Audio CM48T to compare with the mics too. Dave leant it to me for a couple of weeks to make a video with an run it through some paces. Looking forward to it.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 22, 2017 13:06:26 GMT -6
I've been talking about this for a long time, but I decided to briefly compare the MK U67 with my new EF86 tube from bowie with the custom CM67LE aamicrophones made for me. Personally I think they are even closer sounding now than they were with the PF86 stock tube that came with the MK U67. I just quickly sang a bit from Rigoletto, then a bit from "The Bridges of Madison County" musical. Both went into my Apollo Quad Silverface on board preamps. www.dropbox.com/sh/voa0r2hci9tcljk/AAB1CaKzclGFp8mzr-oE3_c8a?dl=0Which is which, A or B?
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Post by indiehouse on May 22, 2017 14:03:01 GMT -6
I've been talking about this for a long time, but I decided to briefly compare the MK U67 with my new EF86 tube from bowie with the custom CM67LE aamicrophones made for me. Personally I think they are even closer sounding now than they were with the PF86 stock tube that came with the MK U67. I just quickly sang a bit from Rigoletto, then a bit from "The Bridges of Madison County" musical. Both went into my Apollo Quad Silverface on board preamps. www.dropbox.com/sh/voa0r2hci9tcljk/AAB1CaKzclGFp8mzr-oE3_c8a?dl=0Which is which, A or B? Wait, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I mean, one costs $1K and the other $3K.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 22, 2017 14:48:41 GMT -6
B is the u67 I think. If not, that's impressive.
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Post by indiehouse on May 22, 2017 15:49:34 GMT -6
B is the u67 I think. If not, that's impressive. There is no U67 involved.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 22, 2017 16:36:01 GMT -6
I thought it was the Neumann TLM U67 with the Max Mod and the Advance Audio 67, that Vincent's link led to. Am I mistaken?
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Post by Vincent R. on May 22, 2017 17:36:00 GMT -6
I thought it was the Neumann TLM U67 with the Max Mod and the Advance Audio 67, that Vincent's link led to. Am I mistaken? It is the max mod MK U67 which is using a U87ai instead if the tlm67. Technically neither is a Neumann 67, which is what indiehouse is getting at. I'll see if anyone else wants to guess before I make the reveal. Indiehouse, it's not a good thing or a bad thing. It's just to show people their options. I think the two are pretty close and with a little EQ it would be really hard to tell which is which. So it gives those people who maybe don't have 3K a 1K option. I already had the U87ai, so the kit was an easier choice for me. I'm glad I have both. I'm going to use both of them on low strings for a project I'm planning.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 22, 2017 17:41:56 GMT -6
Don't take too long Vincent, I always seem to miss the answer after too much mic shootout mic suspense.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 26, 2017 19:28:19 GMT -6
No other guesses?
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Post by ChaseUTB on May 26, 2017 23:28:38 GMT -6
A is the AA mic B is the max mod
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 27, 2017 7:35:19 GMT -6
OK Vincent, time's up ;-)
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Post by Vincent R. on May 27, 2017 7:53:31 GMT -6
OK Vincent, time's up ;-) LMAO. Ok. You're both right. A is Advanced Audio's CM67LE custom made for me by Dave. B is the Max Mod MK U67. With a little EQ I can get them pretty close. I used the CM67LE for over a year before starting this thread and picking up the Max Mod. The new EF86 tube gets them super close. There was much more of a difference when I was using the PF86. It was a lot beefier. Loving the clarity of the EF86.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 27, 2017 8:16:01 GMT -6
The MK 67 wins though. I wouldn't mind having one of those baby's at some point. I'm planning on getting the Stam SA47 later this year though.
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