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Post by Ward on Mar 11, 2017 12:29:30 GMT -6
And also likely that it's a totally different circuit? Interesting thought there, ragan. Why wold there be a need to use a totally different circuit now>? The capsules are available and many good exact clones are too. The GE6072 tubes are still find-able. Same goes for trannies, caps, resistors and wiring like was used in the original. No need to reinvent the wheel when it was a really good wheel and all the parts are still available . :-) |
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Post by ragan on Mar 11, 2017 13:27:25 GMT -6
And also likely that it's a totally different circuit? Interesting thought there, ragan. Why wold there be a need to use a totally different circuit now>? The capsules are available and many good exact clones are too. The GE6072 tubes are still find-able. Same goes for trannies, caps, resistors and wiring like was used in the original. No need to reinvent the wheel when it was a really good wheel and all the parts are still available . :-) Well, to be fair, I don't know much about the Barbaric mic, so maybe that was a dumb quip. But every "inspired by" mic I've seen on the market uses a capsule that tries to emulate the sum total voicing of the U67 circuit. The other electronics contribut too of course but it's a totally different way to approach the U67 sound than the original super bright capsule tamed by the complex de-emphasis circuit with the crazy tertiary transformer business. Which is, to my ear, why none of them really sound like a 67. Doesn't mean they're not excellent mics (I've had many 67 'style' mics here and love some of them) it just means they're a different animal than a U67. |
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Post by rob61 on Mar 11, 2017 17:32:33 GMT -6
And also likely that it's a totally different circuit? Interesting thought there, ragan. Why wold there be a need to use a totally different circuit now>? The capsules are available and many good exact clones are too. The GE6072 tubes are still find-able. Same goes for trannies, caps, resistors and wiring like was used in the original. No need to reinvent the wheel when it was a really good wheel and all the parts are still available . :-) If you're speaking about a Neumann U-67 (this thread), the tube used was an EF-86. |
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Post by rob61 on Mar 11, 2017 17:35:52 GMT -6
If you are looking for a new U-67, the most accurate is the Max mod with the newer Neumann (either the TLM-67 or the U-87ai).
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Post by Ward on Mar 11, 2017 21:40:20 GMT -6
Interesting thought there, ragan. Why wold there be a need to use a totally different circuit now>? The capsules are available and many good exact clones are too. The GE6072 tubes are still find-able. Same goes for trannies, caps, resistors and wiring like was used in the original. No need to reinvent the wheel when it was a really good wheel and all the parts are still available . :-) If you're speaking about a Neumann U-67 (this thread), the tube used was an EF-86. (smacks forehead) Sorry, brain fart moment!! Yes, not everybody has a drawer full of NOS EF86s and EF806s... ummm, I might have a few. drawers. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 11, 2017 23:25:11 GMT -6
If you are looking for a new U-67, the most accurate is the Max mod with the newer Neumann (either the TLM-67 or the U-87ai). We not only established that in this thread, a bunch of us jumped on the band wagon and now own one. :-D I just came across the Barbaric info and was curious if anyone had used one. I also really like my CM67se custom mic that Dave at AA mics made for me. |
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Post by ragan on Mar 14, 2017 13:57:05 GMT -6
I finally got around to trying an EF86 in the MaxMod 67. Really nice. I've got a vintage Mullard (thanks bowie) I actually got for a guitar amp and have since sold the amp so figured it was worth a shot. Sounds fantastic. More lows and more highs, but still that smooth, infinitely sculptable U67 sound. The PF86, which I also like, is more midrangey. Really cool to have the option of both. The MaxMod 67 --> MP-2NV --> Harrison 32c --> WA-2a (pre-emphasis at noon) was pure butter last night on my voice. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 14, 2017 14:21:18 GMT -6
ragan, I'm hoping to get my hands on one shortly. Looking forward to trying it out. More lows and highs, slightly less mids sounds like it would suit my voice. 😊
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 15, 2017 12:57:36 GMT -6
If you're curious why I became obsessed with the U67 sound instead of an M49, I have two main reasons; Anthony Warlow and Sergio Franchi.... the sound I've been dreaming about since my teens.  |
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 21, 2017 14:08:05 GMT -6
I recorded a bunch of stuff this morning for YouTube. Hopefully I'll be able to trickle this music out over the next month. The first was a Great American songbook piece with the Advanced Audio CM49. The second was an original Great American songbook style piece with the Slate VMS FG47 emulation. The last was a microphone shoot out featuring old school crooner vocals, comparing the Altec 639a Ribbon Mic, Slate FG47, AA CM49, and the IOAudio MK U67.
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 4, 2017 22:21:30 GMT -6
No Everybody wants a U67, everybody needs a M49!😝 Eric, after recording with my Advanced Audio CM49 for about a month now...... I believe you. I'm already trying to figure out how to pick up another M49 style mic. I know there is an M49 emulation in the Slate VMS Classic Tubes 3 due out soon. Hopefully that will hold me over.......well, for a little while anyway.  |
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Post by topshelfmg on Apr 5, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -6
No Everybody wants a U67, everybody needs a M49!😝 Eric, after recording with my Advanced Audio CM49 for about a month now...... I believe you. I'm already trying to figure out how to pick up another M49 style mic. I know there is an M49 emulation in the Slate VMS Classic Tubes 3 due out soon. Hopefully that will hold me over.......well, for a little while anyway. Glad to know you like it! Thinking about picking one up soon as well... possibly before a CM47ve. I am about to have Shannon Rhoades mod me some stuff. Definitely my Rode NT-5s I got when I was just getting going into KM-84s, but trying to decide tube LDC wise. Really leaning towards a super authentic U67, as that would cover the most bases and I would still have a different flavor with the CM67se (especially once I perform that mod you told me about). Was going to go with a M49... or maybe even a 251, but for now, I am happy with the bases my CM251 covers. Don't get me wrong, the CM67se is one of my favorite microphones that I own, if not my actual favorite (it goes back and forth), but I think I would get a bunch of additional versatility with an honest to god U67. a M269 was brought up, but I think between the two, I am still leaning towards a U67 as my first Shannon Rhoades / Mic Rehab piece. |
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Post by Vincent R. on May 12, 2017 18:57:16 GMT -6
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Post by ragan on May 12, 2017 19:05:00 GMT -6
Daaaaammmmnnnn
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Post by Vincent R. on May 12, 2017 19:26:22 GMT -6
My sentiments exactly, but I'm strapped. And these days I'm really eying another M49 style mic since with my AA CM67LE I basically have two U67s already. |
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Post by ragan on May 12, 2017 19:38:41 GMT -6
My sentiments exactly, but I'm strapped. And these days I'm really eying another M49 style mic since with my AA CM67LE I basically have two U67s already. Man oh man I wish I could grab it for a pair. I sent it to a couple friends. Maybe one of them will pick it up. I wonder what it will go for. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 12, 2017 19:48:40 GMT -6
I'm drooling here too..
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Post by guitfiddler on May 12, 2017 20:04:18 GMT -6
Pay attention to the mics in this video
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Post by roundbadge on May 12, 2017 23:41:46 GMT -6
I had one of those Mic Mod 67's over here a couple months ago.the converted tlm 67 one.
not even close to my real 67..for one thing is was waay darker[lifeless] by comparison.
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Post by ragan on May 12, 2017 23:48:58 GMT -6
I had one of those Mic Mod 67's over here a couple months ago.the converted tlm 67 one. not even close to my real 67..for one thing is was waay darker[lifeless] by comparison. I think I remember you saying that. Or maybe it was someone else. It's funny, opinions of those who've compared them range from "holy shit, this is spot on" to "no way, not close". Which may or may not reflect the various states of vintage U67s. Is yours stock? Did you try an EF86 in the MaxMod? The PF86 it comes with is darker and more midrangey. EF86 sounds more open in it. I have no dog in the fight either way. My MaxMod is one of the best if not the best mic I've ever had the pleasure to use so I'm very happy with it. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on May 13, 2017 2:44:37 GMT -6
I had one of those Mic Mod 67's over here a couple months ago.the converted tlm 67 one. not even close to my real 67..for one thing is was waay darker[lifeless] by comparison. I think I remember you saying that. Or maybe it was someone else. It's funny, opinions of those who've compared them range from "holy shit, this is spot on" to "no way, not close". Which may or may not reflect the various states of vintage U67s. Is yours stock? Did you try an EF86 in the MaxMod? The PF86 it comes with is darker and more midrangey. EF86 sounds more open in it. I have no dog in the fight either way. My MaxMod is one of the best if not the best mic I've ever had the pleasure to use so I'm very happy with it. And another person opinion who has a pair of max mods and u67s says they are as close as can be and would have no trouble using them as a stereo pair ( max mod and u67 ) all mics have t funk ef86 tubes installed 😀 |
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Post by indiehouse on May 13, 2017 6:58:27 GMT -6
I have one and compared it to an ADK Z-67 and a Bock 251. In "stock" mode, I find it essential to pair it with an EQ. It becomes quite a different mic when you engage the "mod" mode, but sometimes it's too much. Almost wish there was a middle ground. With judicious EQ, I could dial it in close to the ADK (m269). The mic is quiet with a nice reach.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 13, 2017 8:30:16 GMT -6
I have to say, I have one and love it. I also recommend some EQ on it. I have a custom microphone from Advanced Audio Mics that also has the stock U67 sound. The two are very close. Dave's custom mic is a little cleaner sounding, but he will admittedly say so is his tube circuit. I'm looking into grabbing an EF86 tube and hearing how different it sounds. I'll be recording a Live in the Studio video with mine soon as well as a large shoot out I've been planning for a while. All to come on my YouTube page soon.
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Post by EmRR on May 13, 2017 9:39:56 GMT -6
or equally, reflect the quality control of the transformer used in the reproduction. Some people hacking in the response test jack found in a Neumann power supply report spot on response, others report much less treble than specified. Comparisons of various Max/AMI/original transformers find different basic sound profiles. Anyway, we've covered all o that in various threads already or anyone wanting to dig in. |
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Post by channelcat on May 13, 2017 9:43:59 GMT -6
For those that own the MaxMod 67, how do you like the PSU? I'm wondering if it'd be worthwhile to get a Hamptone PSU.
Stu
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