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Post by aremos on Feb 9, 2017 18:34:14 GMT -6
What power supply does the MK67 use?
I remember a while back David Bock saying something about the Neumann 90's reissue being identical but for the PS.
And he had to modify the PS?
Anyone know anything about this?
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 9, 2017 19:54:32 GMT -6
What power supply does the MK67 use? I remember a while back David Bock saying something about the Neumann 90's reissue being identical but for the PS. And he had to modify the PS? Anyone know anything about this? It's something like this: microphone-parts.com/products/tube-mic-power-supply |
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Post by ragan on Feb 9, 2017 20:00:21 GMT -6
It's not the off the shelf PSU though, it's modified to some extent because of a negative heater voltage. Or something that I don't really understand.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 9, 2017 20:01:39 GMT -6
Are you in a position to rent an in good nick, real M49 Vincent? Would save yourself the price of the knock off and stop any guessing; of course the problems will start if it shows itself to be the duck's....... Rationalise that dilemma by saying to yourself, 1. You only live once 2. Apart from your significant other It's your life's passion 3. I have the talent ( no doubt about that) $. Other blokes smoke cigarettes and drink a dozen beer a night etc, etc. Then, good luck finding one in top order. Then prepare to rebuild your room to an acoustic worthy of the mic. It's enough to make you smoke cigarettes and drink a dozen beer a night... It was easier being totally unaware! Cheers, Ross Ross, I don't know that I could ever afford a real deal microphone like a vintage M49, or justify it, and my wife is also in the business and a vocalist. Lol. Maybe if I had the technical know how to maintain it myself, but alas I do not. winetree I'm right outside NYC, so finding a studio with an M49 isn't an issue. The reason I'd try a knock off first is because it would give me time to play with it in my own time, on as many sources as I can, and on my own system. I'd be afraid to try the real deal for fear of being sent on a quest for the holy grail. Lol. |
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Post by ericn on Feb 9, 2017 21:33:26 GMT -6
Rent one your voice a M49 just seams yummy ! I would spend days trying to find the pre! Do I want clean and fast? do I want Neve big? Do I go Hardy as a compromise? What kind of clean? That would be fun! I've heard great things about the Flea 49. Have you ever used one? I'll probably start with an economical version like Advanced Audio. It will give me an idea of if it's really my aesthetic before I invest in something bigger. The Flea is damn close, Plush uses a Flea and Neumann as a stereo pair! Listen to Peter Gabriel's New Blood all vocals Flea M49 into Millennia HV3, Nora Jones first Album Neumann M49, she bought the pair when Sourcer Sound went out! Look at the old Mercery Living Presnce, Many a Trio of M49's there was a short time when the Decca tree was M49's. Call Black Bird rent one of theirs , If the real but10 M49a,b,c is a a Merc. AMG CLS63, the Flea is a CLS55 and everything else is a CLS550 nice ride, but it won't kick you in the Seat like either AMG , you will have to slow down in the corners and the breaks will take you longer to slow down, it will be a luxurious ride but 10min in either AMG and theirs no going back, God I miss that C32! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 9, 2017 21:49:37 GMT -6
My original Oliver Archut Blackspade UM-17 with the Thiersch M7 capsule was a dead ringer for an M-49. You would do well to find one. If you see the less expensive one with the Chinese capsule, get it anyway and have it changed. When I switched to the newer updated version, hand made by Blackspade in Switzerland, the voicing was much closer to a U47. That mic will run you between 1 and 2G's and be so close, that if you didn't like the Blackspade, you probably wouldn't like the M49 anyway.
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Post by rob61 on Feb 10, 2017 16:23:10 GMT -6
Look what showed up! My U-87 is the vintage model, so I had to buy a new U87ai as well. I still remember the full page ad in Mix Magazine announcing the re-release of the Neumann U-67 for a limited time. I came close to grabbing one then but didn't, so I guess I had to see what the Max Mod for the new U-87 is all about. Attachments:
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Post by Ward on Feb 10, 2017 16:39:45 GMT -6
Interesting point rob61 To do this, I'd need to pick up another U87ai as well. There's no way on Earth I'm modding either of the two U87s I have. Yes, they honk and squawk and cack... gee whiz, they're like a pair of geese or ducks, but they are what they are. But I want this. So I'll be hunting for either a TLM67 or U87ai, cheap, to act as a host mic. |
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Post by ragan on Feb 10, 2017 17:30:03 GMT -6
Interesting point rob61 To do this, I'd need to pick up another U87ai as well. There's no way on Earth I'm modding either of the two U87s I have. Yes, they honk and squawk and cack... gee whiz, they're like a pair of geese or ducks, but they are what they are. But I want this. So I'll be hunting for either a TLM67 or U87ai, cheap, to act as a host mic. While you can swap back and forth, so you could easily 'un-mod', there's no way to make it work with the vintage U87s, as per Max. You can get TLM67s for pretty cheap though. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 10, 2017 17:31:41 GMT -6
Interesting point rob61 To do this, I'd need to pick up another U87ai as well. There's no way on Earth I'm modding either of the two U87s I have. Yes, they honk and squawk and cack... gee whiz, they're like a pair of geese or ducks, but they are what they are. But I want this. So I'll be hunting for either a TLM67 or U87ai, cheap, to act as a host mic. While you can swap back and forth, so you could easily 'un-mod', there's no way to make it work with the vintage U87s, as per Max. You can get TLM67s for pretty cheap though. And there are absolutely zero issues doing this to a TLM67, correct? |
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Post by ragan on Feb 10, 2017 17:50:57 GMT -6
While you can swap back and forth, so you could easily 'un-mod', there's no way to make it work with the vintage U87s, as per Max. You can get TLM67s for pretty cheap though. And there are absolutely zero issues doing this to a TLM67, correct? What issues do you mean? You end up with the exact same mic as you would if you started with a U87ai (except for George Neumann's big face on the body tube, though I'm gonna swap in ancorrect U67 body tube so it looks the part). The mod is literally unscrewing a few screws, taking the whole circuit out, and replacing it with Max's U67 circuit. It just uses the body/headbasket/capsule from the original mic and those are identical on TLM67/U87ai. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 10, 2017 18:19:09 GMT -6
I'm curious, do the U87AI and the TLM67 have the exact same size and shape body?
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Post by ragan on Feb 10, 2017 18:44:09 GMT -6
I'm curious, do the U87AI and the TLM67 have the exact same size and shape body? Yep. You can swap parts between them if you like. Same with vintage U87s and U67s (except maybe a different screw pattern on the headbasket on U67?). Going off what I've read. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 10, 2017 18:55:31 GMT -6
Cool, thanks Ragan. I always thought the 67 was a little wider. Maybe it's just the photos I've seen.
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Post by EmRR on Feb 10, 2017 23:28:12 GMT -6
You should be able to take a U87AI and a TLM67 and swap heads between them, as they should be exactly the same. The preamp is the only difference.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 27, 2017 15:27:05 GMT -6
I am continually impressed by just how good the MK U67 sounds. It really is in a different league than my other microphones. I reached out to Max to see if he had an M49 offering, but alas he does not. He is working on getting the complete kits for the MK U47 together. That is tempting.
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Post by rob61 on Feb 27, 2017 16:04:16 GMT -6
I am continually impressed by just how good the MK U67 sounds. It really is in a different league than my other microphones. I reached out to Max to see if he had an M49 offering, but alas he does not. He is working on getting the complete kits for the MK U47 together. That is tempting. I grabbed a couple EF86 to experiment with as well, and I'm liking one even better than the PF86 that comes with it (although the included PF-86 is still really good). Its really nice that Max gave us a switch to allow the use of both in it. If you haven't yet, try putting a few EF-86 tubes in there. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 27, 2017 16:49:52 GMT -6
Anybody know if you can order the silver/non-TLM body separately? ericn |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 27, 2017 16:51:47 GMT -6
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Post by ragan on Feb 27, 2017 17:09:23 GMT -6
Anybody know if you can order the silver/non-TLM body separately? ericn Yep. I'm going to do it. Getting a black badge too. I wanted to make sure this thing was the keeper I hoped it would be. It definitely is, so I'm gonna make it look the part. |
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Post by ericn on Feb 27, 2017 17:41:01 GMT -6
Yes not sure of price, considering your going to want the Capsule used may be the cheaper route 2 things to consider.
Your going to be ordering a bunch of separate Senn. / Neumann parts not one unit, It may be like the fact that I can get a New car for less than buying all the parts but a car withou an interior!
Also if Senn/ Neumann catches on will body parts for 67/87 become impossible to get?
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 27, 2017 17:55:31 GMT -6
Well, all I have to do is get mine first.  |
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Post by ericn on Feb 27, 2017 18:11:40 GMT -6
Well, all I have to do is get mine first. Yeah but the Capsule alone is $750! |
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Post by ericn on Feb 27, 2017 18:12:42 GMT -6
I still say we get Max to build a kit to convert the Warm WA87 !!!
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 27, 2017 19:09:31 GMT -6
What's a good price for a used TLM67? Been looking for one around the 1300 mark. Jealous of ragan's score! I've got a line on one with the shock mount for 1500. Don't wanna overpay for a donor, though. |
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