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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 7:26:22 GMT -6
As an independent full time musician, I'm used to feeling like I'm missing a few important components in my home recording system. My wish list is humble, but here goes..
* I'd like to see a company make an A/D that sounds as good as a Burl for $695 or less.
* I'd like a C12 clone that's actually close to the C12 at around the $500. Putting $500 toward something that doesn't really sound great is a waste of good money.
* I'd like to see UAD offer an upgrade from a Duo to Quad for under $500. *oh and there oughta be a law that no Thunderbolt upgrade can cost more than $229 !
* I'd like to see all plug-in companies care enough to write much clearer step by step instructions for those of us less experienced than the code writers whose heads are so far up their ass, they haven't seen daylight for years. I've had issues using Slate and ReLab products that actually shut me down for days, when the solutions were there, only they couldn't walk me through it.
I'm sure I'll think of a few more things, and be inspired by your wish lists too.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 7:31:09 GMT -6
I realize much of this is about cost, but like computers, the cost of digital components can come down as power and quality go up, so I'm hopeful.
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Post by littlesicily on Oct 9, 2013 7:49:46 GMT -6
* I'd like to see a company make an A/D that sounds as good as a Burl for $695 or less. This wish has already been granted... www.rossmartinaudio.comPCM4222
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 7:55:30 GMT -6
use the Tim Campbell capsule in your C12 clone build and yuo'll be good. otherwise, you're out of your mind on that wish, because capsule building ain't cheap, and neither are decent transformers or vacuum tubes.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 8:08:14 GMT -6
I know you're right matkat, just wishing, that's all.. Now, what's on your wish list?
Thanks littlesicily, I've been watching the thread about the PCM4222 a little. I'd love to actually hear one compared to a Burl Bomber. Does the RossMartin reclock, like the BLA clock does? Is it as good?
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Post by svart on Oct 9, 2013 9:37:06 GMT -6
I want Gefell to go back to making their UM70S Mercenary edition again, not because I like Mercenary, but because it married the greatness of the original UM70S with better manufacturing.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 10:27:57 GMT -6
Cool
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Post by unit7 on Oct 9, 2013 10:33:45 GMT -6
A killer 500 format de esser in complete DIY kit!
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 9, 2013 10:54:26 GMT -6
use the Tim Campbell capsule in your C12 clone build and yuo'll be good. i put 2 of Tim's little beauties in a couple mics that already sounded really very nice, the jump in quality was very literally jaw dropping, as in whooaaa! next on my list, would be an affordable DIY mute and fader automation set up for analog consoles. (i'm working on a set up right now that is so stupid, that if it works, i will win 1st prize in the idiot savant contest lol!)
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Post by svart on Oct 9, 2013 11:12:32 GMT -6
use the Tim Campbell capsule in your C12 clone build and yuo'll be good. i put 2 of Tim's little beauties in a couple mics that already sounded really very nice, the jump in quality was very literally jaw dropping, as in whooaaa! next on my list, would be an affordable DIY mute and fader automation set up for analog consoles. (i'm working on a set up right now that is so stupid, that if it works, i will win 1st prize in the idiot savant contest lol!) I would second the fader automation. The ones out there are either lacking or expensive.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 11:44:20 GMT -6
Whenever I've fantasized about having a sound board again, muting and faders were a sticking point. It would be great if there was a reasonably priced solution.
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Post by littlesicily on Oct 9, 2013 11:53:42 GMT -6
A killer 500 format de esser in complete DIY kit! Derr-esser is pretty cheap and very good. Not DIY, but what else could u want?
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Post by IamJohnGalt on Oct 9, 2013 12:21:51 GMT -6
I would like to see a reasonably priced control surface with high quality faders and solid knobs that runs on the eucon protocol....16 or 24 channels would be nice. I use the Artist Series by avid (3 mixes and a transport) but the meters are week, the knobs and faders feel cheap, and its a bit plasticy. They aren't cheep either. Avid controls Eucon so its up to them.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 14:05:26 GMT -6
That would be way cool IAJG.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 14:52:36 GMT -6
Something for under a grand that does what an LA2A does.
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Post by jcz on Oct 9, 2013 14:58:07 GMT -6
I'd love to see/find a simple 4 channel (4 x mono in/ out resp. 2x stereo in/out) blend unit for parallel processing. Finished, assembled and ready to rock for... let's say 300 bucks, what do you guys mean?
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 9, 2013 15:10:24 GMT -6
Love to see UA reissue the 176...Saw the IGS one...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 15:44:51 GMT -6
Wish list means I can wish for anything. Even if it's not possible.
- Super quiet, flat preamp with zero coloration with convolution/plugin pack to turn it into whatever pre you want. - Super flat monitors with a plugin to place on the master bus to change into whatever you want (NS10, Focals, Barefoot, etc) - Autotune plugin for guitar that would work well on DIs - That Drumatom plugin for HH and Ride mics. - Control surface designed with the SSL Channel from waves as the main controls. My mixes are VCC, SSL Channel on every channel with the CLA comps as bus comps (76Black on drums, 3A on GTR, 2A on Bass and BGvox, 76Blue on lead vocal), the SSL comp, Clariphonic and Mpx on the master. I try not to get every new plugin that comes out cause it's a never ending thing and these tools work extremely well for me. 16 Channel would be fine, would like it to fit in something like an argosy.
All this stuff would have to be on par with something like the Kemper Profiling Amp. I think the KPA is the same thing as it's hardware counterparts. When I profile an amp here it comes back identical to my ears. I cannot distinguish the two whatsoever.
For stuff that exists...
- Small punchy DW Jazz kit - Les Paul Traditional - SG Standard - Strat - Jazzmaster - Jazz Bass - two more MD421s - New PC with an RME card - Manley Ref C - 16 better preamps (fuckusrite ISAs would be cool, just not these Mackies I'm dragging around) - KM184s - Cue system like the Furman rig - Ayotte Keplinger - Ludwig Black Beauty - Supraphonic - Royer R101
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Post by popmann on Oct 9, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -6
I really would like to see a little 500 series routable console. Table top. Right now, there's nothing in the market between a big Tree or API and a Radial Workhorse. I have never seen the attraction of the 500 series gear, but there's so much of it, it would be nice to be able to actually use it to customize a piece of gear for a project studio--not just carry a couple different flavors of preamp in a weird little lunchbox. I think Kennedy mentioned this before...but, I'm not sure why he was looking--I'm a zealot for analog monitoring. And analog monitor (volume)control. Seems like it would be a nice piece if it would do some amount of summing...hold pres/EQ/compressors of choice with a little mini patchbay. Anyway-I think the removal of the console from a studio has been a bad thing on a number of levels. But, it's absurd to think with the market for recordings we're going to afford nice BIG desks...good argument to be made for not having big lousy desks....but, seems like something normal (office) desk sized...like the Wunder here, only that's not 500 series, and I don't think there's any patching, since they're straight input pre/eq channels: I might go ahead and make the top flat to hold an LCD display. Maybe have some option 19" rack sides? Ehh...point is, a simple monitoring/cue/summing/preamp--you know console for the project studio. I had hope Radial would spur a trend with their Workhorse--but, no sooner had it come out they had some kind of "workhorse lite" or something without everything that made the Workhorse a cool concept. I mean, certainly there's middle ground between Radial quality and Wunder with it's opulent wooden sides and leather wrist rests. Something someone can buy with one 500 series preamp...then add another...then add enough to record drums...I think 16 channels is what to aim for. Or 16 routable slots--maybe not 16 faders...but, you want to cover 16channel summing with patchable inserts and band recording IF the person adds enough 500 series preamps for that. But, it could be the big guys have done more market research than me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 16:41:42 GMT -6
I'd love to see/find a simple 4 channel (4 x mono in/ out resp. 2x stereo in/out) blend unit for parallel processing. Finished, assembled and ready to rock for... let's say 300 bucks, what do you guys mean? Serpent Audio's Send 'n Blend or Jeff's ACA boards'll do the trick. you gotta build it yourself, tho... DIY LA2A is under 1K also. y'all gotta stop bein' afraid of the soldering iron. you're wasting so much money because of that!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 17:55:54 GMT -6
Hmm.. that's interesting Heartfelt. That doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility to me.
One example of something similar is Warm Audio. They make some very well priced preamps that are first rate and 1/3 -1/2 the cost of the competition. So, why not an LA2A competitor at a great price !
Just noticed your post matkatmusic, I'm warming up to the idea of a soldering iron, but it may take me a quite a while to get there.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 9, 2013 19:17:02 GMT -6
I really would like to see a little 500 series routable console. Table top. Right now, there's nothing in the market between a big Tree or API and a Radial Workhorse. I have never seen the attraction of the 500 series gear, but there's so much of it, it would be nice to be able to actually use it to customize a piece of gear for a project studio--not just carry a couple different flavors of preamp in a weird little lunchbox. I think Kennedy mentioned this before...but, I'm not sure why he was looking--I'm a zealot for analog monitoring. And analog monitor (volume)control. Seems like it would be a nice piece if it would do some amount of summing...hold pres/EQ/compressors of choice with a little mini patchbay. Anyway-I think the removal of the console from a studio has been a bad thing on a number of levels. But, it's absurd to think with the market for recordings we're going to afford nice BIG desks...good argument to be made for not having big lousy desks....but, seems like something normal (office) desk sized...like the Wunder here, only that's not 500 series, and I don't think there's any patching, since they're straight input pre/eq channels: I might go ahead and make the top flat to hold an LCD display. Maybe have some option 19" rack sides? Ehh...point is, a simple monitoring/cue/summing/preamp--you know console for the project studio. I had hope Radial would spur a trend with their Workhorse--but, no sooner had it come out they had some kind of "workhorse lite" or something without everything that made the Workhorse a cool concept. I mean, certainly there's middle ground between Radial quality and Wunder with it's opulent wooden sides and leather wrist rests. Something someone can buy with one 500 series preamp...then add another...then add enough to record drums...I think 16 channels is what to aim for. Or 16 routable slots--maybe not 16 faders...but, you want to cover 16channel summing with patchable inserts and band recording IF the person adds enough 500 series preamps for that. But, it could be the big guys have done more market research than me. realgearonline.com/thread/14/classic-space-series-modular-console
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 20:36:56 GMT -6
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Post by littlesicily on Oct 9, 2013 21:00:37 GMT -6
Something for under a grand that does what an LA2A does. Well, u can build a DRIP La2a for under a grand. Or get a Brute, which isn't an La2a but is Opto and smooth.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 9, 2013 21:29:57 GMT -6
I like my UAD LA2 and LA2 Silver plugs much better than the older LA2A, does that translate to hardware?
Is the older model LA2 better than the LA2A, or just different? I mean, if you can build one, can you build the other, or are the parts just no longer available?
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