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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 23, 2015 21:36:20 GMT -6
So whats the difference between the subscription price and buy it price ?
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Post by mulmany on Jan 23, 2015 21:49:08 GMT -6
So whats the difference between the subscription price and buy it price ? Subscription price is for people that already own a version of PT. Regular price is for those that purchase new. At least that is how it looked toe on their site. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 23, 2015 22:16:50 GMT -6
no info BS promo... wtf? I'm going straight to their both tomorrow and reaming the first poor sob i find lol, I kidd, but i will ask wtf, and tell them their BS cost them $11k from me 8)
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 23, 2015 22:18:15 GMT -6
Poke them in the eye for me too.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 24, 2015 2:59:04 GMT -6
So whats the difference between the subscription price and buy it price ? Subscription price is for people that already own a version of PT. Regular price is for those that purchase new. At least that is how it looked toe on their site. Ah of course that makes cents for Avid !  ( but probably not mine!) |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2015 15:24:03 GMT -6
Was just thinking...here are a few reasons I NEED Pro Tools...
1) Every session I track is inevitably tracked in PT. If I were to switch I would be limited to only a small pool of studio choices. I don't know a single professional studio in town that uses Logic.
2) Every professional mixer I know (I can't afford Chuck Ainlay) uses Pro Tools.
3) I could ask the studio to consolidate the files and send them to me after tracking as wav or aiff...but what about playlists?
4) If and when I send my tracks out to be mixed, I can zip the PT's folder and be done. Otherwise, it's a PITA to send someone 24 separate wav files without any markers or anything...
and many other reasons
It's not that I don't think there might be better options out there, it's just that these are realities at this time and this place.
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Post by mulmany on Jan 24, 2015 15:43:14 GMT -6
Was just thinking...here are a few reasons I NEED Pro Tools... 1) Every session I track is inevitably tracked in PT. If I were to switch I would be limited to only a small pool of studio choices. I don't know a single professional studio in town that uses Logic. 2) Every professional mixer I know (I can't afford Chuck Ainlay) uses Pro Tools. 3) I could ask the studio to consolidate the files and send them to me after tracking as wav or aiff...but what about playlists? 4) If and when I send my tracks out to be mixed, I can zip the PT's folder and be done. Otherwise, it's a PITA to send someone 24 separate wav files without any markers or anything... and many other reasons It's not that I don't think there might be better options out there, it's just that these are realities at this time and this place. Most guys should know how to export OMF and import them. Open Media Framework saves your Session just like it is and allows another program to reassemble it perfectly. This was one of the big issues I had/have with other programs, some have just left it out. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2015 17:19:33 GMT -6
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 24, 2015 17:41:40 GMT -6
Hmmm...although working in the cloud sounds delicious...it would certainly be nice to have it uploading to the cloud as you put it down... Cubase already has working in the cloud. Has for few years. I promise I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2015 17:56:12 GMT -6
Hmmm...although working in the cloud sounds delicious...it would certainly be nice to have it uploading to the cloud as you put it down... Cubase already has working in the cloud. Has for few years. I promise I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here. Yep... www.realgearonline.com/post/46469/threadBut was kind've talking about PT's in particular. Thinking about sending PT sessions back and forth to mixers... |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 24, 2015 17:58:02 GMT -6
I don't think people look to pro tools for innovation.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 24, 2015 18:08:11 GMT -6
If they come out with their prices and what not, and they aren't  , and they save some face? I may just jump to PTHD, why not, it has more features on top of what i already like, and from what i've read it sounds better lol 8) You can run a Symphony on the HD platform. Good sounding converter. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 24, 2015 19:06:06 GMT -6
For new standard users, a subscription is the cheapest way to access Pro Tools until you've used it for 7 years. For people who already own it, the support plan is cheaper. They obviously want new users to be renters.
They haven't announced any details about HD other than offering upgrades to 11HD including a support plan and buried in the product page they mention being able to rent an upgrade to HD features although no price is given.
The thing about 12 that is confusing people is that it is a series of ongoing one at a time feature upgrades rather than one giant addition of a whole bunch of new features. The feature set when it is released will not be the same as what is included three months later which in turn will not be the same as six, nine or twelve months later. The included support plans also provide a path for immediate feedback about any bugs in each new incremental upgrade. This is a completely different development and business model from what they have done in the past. Why change? They were going broke!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2015 19:48:50 GMT -6
So - I have a Mac mini. I can't use PTHD, right? Don't you have to have an HDX card or something?
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Post by ericn on Jan 24, 2015 19:58:53 GMT -6
So - I have a Mac mini. I can't use PTHD, right? Don't you have to have an HDX card or something? Well you could go HD native if you have thunderbolt, HDX is card only HD cards are not supported after 10. |
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Post by swurveman on Jan 24, 2015 20:10:02 GMT -6
I understand why people that use Avidi interfaces use Pro Tools software. It is a well contained integrated system. For everybody else, it's subpar software. One example: When you are using an alternative interface, you have to go to Low Latency Monitoring to prevent latency for cue mixes. However, if you are using hardware inserts, enabling Low Latency Monitoring disables your hardware inserts, and the only way you can get the inserts back it to disable Low Latency Monitoring. So, you go back and forth and back in forth. This, from a company that pretends like it is cutting edge, but is way behind the curve in their software for anybody using hybrid systems and 3rd party interfaces. And you know what? I don't think their software developers are worse than Cubase's or Logic's. It's some marketing decision to not give people who don't use Avid's interfaces full functionality from their software. I'll never buy anything from Avid again. It's bullshit.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 24, 2015 20:24:33 GMT -6
You can use a mac mini with HDX if you buy an expansion chassis. HD software also works with ASIO and CoreAudio only it's limited to 32 i/o.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2015 23:13:26 GMT -6
But only with the purchase of Pro Tools Hardware too.
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Post by ericn on Jan 24, 2015 23:36:48 GMT -6
But only with the purchase of Pro Tools Hardware too. Well HDx / Native software will act just like regular Protools software with out the hardware, I heard a story that a Dealer Was selling the Software without the hardware to customers and that was a small part of AViDs totally locking it with hardware, Yup some people were buying The Software and people were thinking they had a full HD rig ! That dealer went out of buisness ! |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 25, 2015 4:21:49 GMT -6
But only with the purchase of Pro Tools Hardware too. Yup some people were buying The Software and people were thinking they had a full HD rig ! That dealer went out of buisness ! Simply amazing... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 25, 2015 10:44:29 GMT -6
Well, there IS a difference in PT native and HD software.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 25, 2015 10:52:17 GMT -6
Back when the minimum price for a Pro Tools HD system was ten grand they offered a software upgrade that gave people HD features on an LE system. This was replaced by the HD Native system but they offered to upgrade people who had paid several thousand for this to 11HD software. Back then HD also included a second backup authorization and some people were selling theirs on eBay.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 25, 2015 11:19:19 GMT -6
I went to the avid booth yesterday and looked for a candidate to put over my knee! But just like any well run, ill intended conglomerate, their was no representatives appearing to have any apparent authority to lash out at lol
it would've been like going into mcdonalds and yelling at the order taker "this ass meat tastes like ass meat!"
The only way to win is to say by by, which means I will continue to eat ass meet lol
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Post by ericn on Jan 25, 2015 11:38:54 GMT -6
Well, there IS a difference in PT native and HD software. Not really a PT software Disks have the HD software on them the Equipment present and Ilok tell it what to Use and if you have HD native or HDX rig it installs everything , so if you take away the HD Native Rig or HDX it runs like PT software ! This is for the guy who likes to use his laptop for his studio rig and on the plane. In PT land when you say PT Native they think HD Bative, it is called PT software and has confused many a person. |
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Post by swurveman on Jan 25, 2015 21:13:21 GMT -6
Well, there IS a difference in PT native and HD software. Not really a PT software Disks have the HD software on them the Equipment present and Ilok tell it what to Use and if you have HD native or HDX rig it installs everything , so if you take away the HD Native Rig or HDX it runs like PT software ! This is for the guy who likes to use his laptop for his studio rig and on the plane. In PT land when you say PT Native they think HD Bative, it is called PT software and has confused many a person. I may be misunderstanding something Eric, but are you saying you can take your laptop- which was originally installed with an HD interface running Pro Tools HDX or Native software- connect it to a 3rd party interface and be able to use the "i" buttons on the audio channels pictured below?  |
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( but probably not mine!)
, and they save some face? I may just jump to PTHD, why not, it has more features on top of what i already like, and from what i've read it sounds better lol 8)
