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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 6, 2015 21:04:21 GMT -6
After hearing that sample, if for some reason you ever sell this mic, I'm resigned to believe there is no hope for you to ever be satisfied with anything. Just saying. I don't think you noticed this thread or at least you didn't comment on it... realgearonline.com/post/50912/threadNo I didn't notice it Tony. Been busy lately. I'll check it out.
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Post by category5 on Mar 7, 2015 9:34:54 GMT -6
Tony called me the other day to share shocking stories. I thought it was worth a big time reminder. As with all tube mics, you should NEVER plug the mic in after the power supply has been turned on, especially this one. In fact, if you screw up and turn on the PSU before connecting the mic, you must not even plug it in until the LED on the PSU goes out completely. I know Tony and I will not forget this rule anytime soon. At the very least, you'll know you're doing it wrong. At the worst, you can cause damage to the mic (especially the tubes) and can get a shock from over 300V of DC that will make your childhood "penny in the electrical outlet story" seem like a scratch on the knee. Yep. It hurts. Tony agreed with me when I mentioned it feels a lot like getting pulled into the Matrix.
It makes for a funny story, and proves my Dad's old saying. "When you're stupid you've got to be tough".
Proper procedure is to secure the mic in the stand/mount, connect the cable to the mic side first, connect the cable to the PSU, then engage power. There is some protection when connecting the cable in this fashion because the ground pin on the large Binder connector is longer and will always connect first. Unfortunately I haven't found a similar version for the mic side. If you connect the mic with the PSU on, and the cable connected to it you might void your bowels and forget your name for 20 minutes.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 7, 2015 9:41:44 GMT -6
It's good for depression...
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 7, 2015 10:36:42 GMT -6
British researchers say that is also true for LSD; pick your poison
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 7, 2015 10:58:55 GMT -6
Tony called me the other day to share shocking stories. I thought it was worth a big time reminder. As with all tube mics, you should NEVER plug the mic in after the power supply has been turned on, especially this one. In fact, if you screw up and turn on the PSU before connecting the mic, you must not even plug it in until the LED on the PSU goes out completely. I know Tony and I will not forget this rule anytime soon. At the very least, you'll know you're doing it wrong. At the worst, you can cause damage to the mic (especially the tubes) and can get a shock from over 300V of DC that will make your childhood "penny in the electrical outlet story" seem like a scratch on the knee. Yep. It hurts. Tony agreed with me when I mentioned it feels a lot like getting pulled into the Matrix. It makes for a funny story, and proves my Dad's old saying. "When you're stupid you've got to be tough". Proper procedure is to secure the mic in the stand/mount, connect the cable to the mic side first, connect the cable to the PSU, then engage power. There is some protection when connecting the cable in this fashion because the ground pin on the large Binder connector is longer and will always connect first. Unfortunately I haven't found a similar version for the mic side. If you connect the mic with the PSU on, and the cable connected to it you might void your bowels and forget your name for 20 minutes. 1000 times yes! You guys have all heard me say how dangerous the high DC voltage is on this a bunch of times, but like a real jackass, a couple nights ago, i plugged the mic side in with the PSU on and.... BAMMMMM!!!! No fireworks, no flash, no zapp, just an instant of deeply evil pain that dropped a 230 pound dude to his knees. Thank goodness the mic was on the stand, that would've been an awkward phone call to JK.. "hey John, howz it going?... good man, ha ha, yeah me too... Listen bro, i threw your mic accross the room on accident" lol
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 7, 2015 13:12:32 GMT -6
Tony, see that's why I wanted you to send it to me, then JK would've understood be safe bro !!
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Post by wiz on Mar 7, 2015 16:44:19 GMT -6
I think the technical term is
"I k-catted the microphone"
8)
Don't worry I did it the very first time I used a ribbon.. i gingerly put it on the stand.. careful not to breathe on it.. had the ceiling fan off.. didn't open and close the doors in the room.. .( I was being uber paranoid after reading how FRAGILE they were).. so I Turned my back and walked over to the desk..I hear
"BANG!!!"
I turned around the mic stand has fallen over and the Ribbon mic has gone crashing to the floor..... 8)
It was fine...
about 30 mins later I applied phantom to it as well, accidentally .. .still worked.... 8)
wasn't my finest couple of hours..
cheers
Wiz
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Post by wiz on Mar 7, 2015 16:45:31 GMT -6
tonycamphd... ... be careful dude... .... ... where else am I gonna stay in Carlsbad? 8) cheers Wiz
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 16:55:56 GMT -6
Yeah, this kind of shock is good for depression, indeed. But not in the way of electroconvulsive therapy without narcosis, more in the way of surviving a serious suicide attempt and beeing happy to be alive if you wake up....somehow.
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Post by Shannon on Mar 11, 2015 12:46:31 GMT -6
DDDAAAAAMMMMM a brother got his nose to the grindstone, AANNDD all you mofo's getting CRA CRA up in here .. sampling and spinning, critiquing , and shit
to all those responsible my hats off to you. There was a lot of EXCELLENT BUILDS ( you know who you are) recordings, time put into such a thorough kewl ass event next time help a brother out
and send some invites out…..
very kewl can i use your mic for while JK
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 11, 2015 15:59:04 GMT -6
I think the technical term is "I k-catted the microphone" 8) Don't worry I did it the very first time I used a ribbon.. i gingerly put it on the stand.. careful not to breathe on it.. had the ceiling fan off.. didn't open and close the doors in the room.. .( I was being uber paranoid after reading how FRAGILE they were).. so I Turned my back and walked over to the desk..I hear "BANG!!!" I turned around the mic stand has fallen over and the Ribbon mic has gone crashing to the floor..... 8) It was fine... about 30 mins later I applied phantom to it as well, accidentally .. .still worked.... 8) wasn't my finest couple of hours.. cheers Wiz I'm sorry but I had to laugh out loud. Can't make this shit up.
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Post by gouge on Mar 11, 2015 16:08:28 GMT -6
conversation in the studio the other night.
me "so dude I really love the sm7 on your voice. all of that searching and finally it's the cheap mic that rocks" "please never sell it and take care of it, what a great mic. I love shure condenser mics."
dude "man it's a dynamic"
me
"shit, I've been using phantom power since you got it"
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Post by wiz on Mar 11, 2015 17:21:56 GMT -6
conversation in the studio the other night. me "so dude I really love the sm7 on your voice. all of that searching and finally it's the cheap mic the rocks" "please never sell it and take care, what a great mic. I .love shure condenser mics." dude "man it's a dynamic" me "shit, I've been using phantom power since you got it" LOL we should start a thread of STUPID things we have done... 8) Wiz
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 11, 2015 18:28:37 GMT -6
You mean like makeing eq adjustments for several minutes thinking it sounds so much better and then notice the thing isn't even patched in?
Guilty
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 11, 2015 19:10:04 GMT -6
compressing in bypass mode?.... guilty as charged!
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 11, 2015 19:17:02 GMT -6
Wow listen to the difference that external clock makes ! oh wait a sec let me switch my interface over fail !!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 11, 2015 22:43:04 GMT -6
You mean like makeing eq adjustments for several minutes thinking it sounds so much better and then notice the thing isn't even patched in? Guilty It's been known to happen.. ;-) Did some vocal tracking today, and just can't get the sound I want. I don't know if it's the mic or the pre, or both. I'd love to try one of the MK47's, then I'd know which way to go.
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Post by drew571 on Mar 12, 2015 7:45:47 GMT -6
oh, the eq was patched in alright, i just had the wrong channel selected!
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 12, 2015 7:53:27 GMT -6
Wow listen to the difference that external clock makes ! oh wait a sec let me switch my interface over fail !! Yeah - that's depressing.
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Post by KJ on Mar 20, 2015 3:36:25 GMT -6
Don't mean to derail this thread but I have a random question to ask... Which component of the mic matters the most when determining its sound characters? Is it the capsule? Transformer? or the tube? I am asking this because I've heard someone saying that transformer is the main component that will decide the overall character of the mic but I've always thought that capsule would matter the most since it's where the conversion (acoustic to electric) occurs. Am I wrong in assuming this?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 7:29:13 GMT -6
I would definitely agree. Capsule has biggest impact.
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Post by ericn on Mar 20, 2015 7:44:14 GMT -6
Don't mean to derail this thread but I have a random question to ask... Which component of the mic matters the most when determining its sound characters? Is it the capsule? Transformer? or the tube? I am asking this because I've heard someone saying that transformer is the main component that will decide the overall character of the mic but I've always thought that capsule would matter the most since it's where the conversion (acoustic to electric) occurs. Am I wrong in assuming this? Probably Capsule , but it's a system so if you want it to sound right you have to look at every part of the system.
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Post by ericn on Mar 20, 2015 7:46:25 GMT -6
You mean like makeing eq adjustments for several minutes thinking it sounds so much better and then notice the thing isn't even patched in? Guilty Have always kept a channel on the console for artist, producer tweaking its not patched but its amazing how the placebo effect works!
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 20, 2015 8:27:17 GMT -6
Don't mean to derail this thread but I have a random question to ask... Which component of the mic matters the most when determining its sound characters? Is it the capsule? Transformer? or the tube? I am asking this because I've heard someone saying that transformer is the main component that will decide the overall character of the mic but I've always thought that capsule would matter the most since it's where the conversion (acoustic to electric) occurs. Am I wrong in assuming this? IME it's capsule, tubes, tranny. The diffs are closer between tubes/tranny, but the capsule is huge! If you listen to the 1,2 C12s on the winecamp shootout, the mics are virtually identical except for capsule and a little headbasket trickery, the sound is extremely diff.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 20, 2015 8:56:34 GMT -6
I would say capsule is 80% of the sound.
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