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Post by Dan on Jul 12, 2024 21:13:28 GMT -6
Been using Saturn 2 lately for saturation. Silver Bullet is a cool plugin but is sometimes unusable due to the noise. I have been unable to find any normal settings on the plug that introduced any appreciable noise. Certainly not enough to make it unusable. Good news for you is that the new version will have noise "options" where you can go from "analog" equivalent to "digital" - i.e. silence. They're just losers who cannot gain stage. I use U-he Satin all the time for years. If noise builds up on silence or sparser moments, just hit auto mute on a few tracks or lower hiss a little bit. Or gate on silence or expand it. easy. Without the noise, it doesn't sound sound like tape.
Hell I use Fuse TCS-68 to get that Tascam sound (the midrange isn't as vivid as the hardware is when you abuse the high shelf and semi parametric API 550 bell before a good nos cassette) but it hits harder than the Ik Tascam tape despite being a cassette) including the noise (I run at least two instances 1 with pre and eq, the other with tape and hiss), and just gate it on silence afterwards with the old school Oxford Dynamics. Sounds great. No noise.
Whoever cannot gate or expand something with hiss 80 to 100 db down cannot use a ton of the best hardware ever like Daking compressors, the Smart C2, Aphex, etc. Classic or name brand gear? Noisier than the clean stuff! Put the clone gear on some guys cheap apartment plugged into a strip from Ikea? Mains hum..., random ass computer noise, AC voltage fluctuation, stuff from the fridge. Yet noise is the complaint? Hell the plug is probably better than the hardware (never used) run through the JRC4580 crap people are running it through. A 64-bit float number or a convergent round (prevents accumulation of DC offset) to 32-bit float for AAX/AU vs the JRC 4580? LOL WTF GTFO JRC4580 and minimum phase anti alias filters with over a thousand degress of phase shift? Might as well just use a Softube or U-he plug then. There's no JRC4580 and U-he and (newer) Softube sound great.
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Post by drbill on Jul 12, 2024 21:14:22 GMT -6
if anyone is still waiting on the Silver Bullet, it's $29.99 today with "ANY-2999". You can get it on the LTL website for several days I think. $30. Brad doesn't do the "penny less" thing. LOL Just to clarify the timeline - available thru Sunday the 14th. |
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Post by drbill on Jul 12, 2024 21:20:20 GMT -6
I have been unable to find any normal settings on the plug that introduced any appreciable noise. They're just losers who cannot gain stage. To clarify my take on it - I put on 50 instances in a mix with normal settings, faders to 0, and master to 0, turned up my CRM volume to pain levels, and I could only BARELY hear any hiss. Certainly nothing that could be heard in a mix. I've asked multiple times for a screenshot of what is causing "hiss" problems, but no one has taken me up on it yet. I remember ONE guy who was using the SB plug in a REALLY unusual and unique way that was creating hiss, but that's it. The plug was designed to mirror the hardware as close as possible. All hardware has a noise floor somewhere down there..... At any rate, we want to make EVERYone happy, so the next revision will have a "digital" "noiseLESS" mode. Happy days.  |
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Post by Dan on Jul 12, 2024 21:23:15 GMT -6
They're just losers who cannot gain stage. To clarify my take on it - I put on 50 instances in a mix with normal settings, faders to 0, and master to 0, turned up my CRM volume to pain levels, and I could only BARELY hear any hiss. Certainly nothing that could be heard in a mix. I've asked multiple times for a screenshot of what is causing "hiss" problems, but no one has taken me up on it yet. I remember ONE guy who was using the SB plug in a REALLY unusual and unique way that was creating hiss, but that's it. The plug was designed to mirror the hardware as close as possible. All hardware has a noise floor somewhere down there..... At any rate, we want to make EVERYone happy, so the next revision will have a "digital" "noiseLESS" mode. Happy days. Yeah it's what? under 100 dbfs? and VU 0 is what -10/16/20? Imagine if these people had to use boards you had to patch out of to not get noise like a synth... Or an 1176. Or a real Fender amp. LOL. |
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Post by drumsound on Jul 12, 2024 21:48:08 GMT -6
To clarify my take on it - I put on 50 instances in a mix with normal settings, faders to 0, and master to 0, turned up my CRM volume to pain levels, and I could only BARELY hear any hiss. Certainly nothing that could be heard in a mix. I've asked multiple times for a screenshot of what is causing "hiss" problems, but no one has taken me up on it yet. I remember ONE guy who was using the SB plug in a REALLY unusual and unique way that was creating hiss, but that's it. The plug was designed to mirror the hardware as close as possible. All hardware has a noise floor somewhere down there..... At any rate, we want to make EVERYone happy, so the next revision will have a "digital" "noiseLESS" mode. Happy days. Yeah it's what? under 100 dbfs? and VU 0 is what -10/16/20? Imagine if these people had to use boards you had to patch out of to not get noise like a synth... Or an 1176. Or a real Fender amp. LOL. I always wonder when people talk about noise levels if they make music that NEVER has guitar amps or anything with actual tubes. I remember using VCA console automation and having to redo the intro and outro mutes SEVERAL times to get the unmute to happen as close to the actual note as possible. |
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Post by Dan on Jul 12, 2024 22:19:47 GMT -6
Yeah it's what? under 100 dbfs? and VU 0 is what -10/16/20? Imagine if these people had to use boards you had to patch out of to not get noise like a synth... Or an 1176. Or a real Fender amp. LOL. I always wonder when people talk about noise levels if they make music that NEVER has guitar amps or anything with actual tubes. I remember using VCA console automation and having to redo the intro and outro mutes SEVERAL times to get the unmute to happen as close to the actual note as possible. Most of them idolize messed up pop music, make plastic EDM, or want to sound like crappy modern computer metal with nothing recorded but the bad vocals. |
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Post by drumsound on Jul 13, 2024 10:45:19 GMT -6
I always wonder when people talk about noise levels if they make music that NEVER has guitar amps or anything with actual tubes. I remember using VCA console automation and having to redo the intro and outro mutes SEVERAL times to get the unmute to happen as close to the actual note as possible. Most of them idolize messed up pop music, make plastic EDM, or want to sound like crappy modern computer metal with nothing recorded but the bad vocals. That's probably true. I, on the other hand, don't even know how to use virtual instruments. |
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Post by copperx on Jul 13, 2024 11:39:02 GMT -6
Don't sleep on the ProAudioDSP DSM plugin, one of the best on Plugin Alliance. It's not an analog model of anything, but surprisingly, it can model tape saturation/signature quite convincingly. I 'captured' a tape mix with it and then transfered its curve to my mix and it was like magic.
It used to be a $300+ plugin, and Paul Frindle considers it to be his best digital creation (he wrote the original Sonnox stuff). It's awesome that we can get it for $30 now.
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