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Post by thehightenor on Jun 10, 2024 5:17:29 GMT -6
Big sale for them - they usually don't include all the plugins.
I've just bought the Oxford Dynamics for £60 (£55 as I had £5 off voucher at Plugin Boutique)
It's normally never in any significant sale and so this is a bargain as I've wanted the Oxford Dynamics for years to go with my Oxford EQ.
It's a very, very good plugin and has stood the test of time.
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Post by Dan on Jun 10, 2024 6:22:55 GMT -6
Great plugs. I use the eq and dynamics all the time. All the other of the original Oxford six pack (eq, dynamics, limiter, transmod, reverb, inflator) made by Paul Frindle at Sony are great too.
The later Sonnox ones like Suppressor, Envolution, and the Restore bundle are good but not in the ball park of being simple and extremely powerful like the originals.
The Drum Gate, Dynamic EQ, and Voca are extremely cool. I need to pick up the Dynamic EQ and Voca
Claro uses way too much cpu compared to two instances of the Oxford eq or you know… fabfilter pro q3.
Who cares about lossy codecs?
Dan
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Post by thehightenor on Jun 10, 2024 8:26:56 GMT -6
Great plugs. I use the eq and dynamics all the time. All the other of the original Oxford six pack (eq, dynamics, limiter, transmod, reverb, inflator) made by Paul Frindle at Sony are great too. The later Sonnox ones like Suppressor, Envolution, and the Restore bundle are good but not in the ball park of being simple and extremely powerful like the originals. The Drum Gate, Dynamic EQ, and Voca are extremely cool. I need to pick up the Dynamic EQ and Voca Claro uses way too much cpu compared to two instances of the Oxford eq or you know… fabfilter pro q3. Who cares about lossy codecs? Dan Heck, don't agree with me on something Dan - we'll cause a tear in the space time continuum! 100% agree on Paul Frindle plugins - clever man imho. I've got the Transmod and Inflator. I never bought the reverb as I had other plugs I was more into but it does sound great to. Same for the Limiter - an excellent plugin but my ancient TC Powercore Brickwall from the MD3 Suite has been a go to for nearly over 15 years, for me that plugin has also stood the test of time.
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Post by Dan on Jun 10, 2024 9:04:44 GMT -6
Great plugs. I use the eq and dynamics all the time. All the other of the original Oxford six pack (eq, dynamics, limiter, transmod, reverb, inflator) made by Paul Frindle at Sony are great too. The later Sonnox ones like Suppressor, Envolution, and the Restore bundle are good but not in the ball park of being simple and extremely powerful like the originals. The Drum Gate, Dynamic EQ, and Voca are extremely cool. I need to pick up the Dynamic EQ and Voca Claro uses way too much cpu compared to two instances of the Oxford eq or you know… fabfilter pro q3. Who cares about lossy codecs? Dan Heck, don't agree with me on something Dan - we'll cause a tear in the space time continuum! 100% agree on Paul Frindle plugins - clever man imho. I've got the Transmod and Inflator. I never bought the reverb as I had other plugs I was more into but it does sound great to. Same for the Limiter - an excellent plugin but my ancient TC Powercore Brickwall from the MD3 Suite has been a go to for nearly over 15 years, for me that plugin has also stood the test of time. The Transmod gets something from nothing unlike the SPL and the more complex Envolution. The Transmod has saved many roughs overcompressed by the recordist or producer. The Limiter is distorted but super cool sounding. I think it works better on busses than as a master limiter but it does work for that if your material can take it and you're not BRICKWALLING it in safe mode (limits all true peak overshoots with distortion) or with the auto comp ISP limiter (limits true peaks by a very aggressive final limiter).
the reverb is very unique. I dig it and paid full price for it and the dynamics years ago.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 10, 2024 10:14:44 GMT -6
Thanks. I've wanted to grab the limiter HDX for a while. Another flavor to have.
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Post by phantom on Jun 10, 2024 11:09:23 GMT -6
I'm tempted to get the Oxford Dynamics. I really wasn't thinking about getting another digital compressor, but this sounds interesting, responsive is what I would say.
But already having Pro-C and Kotelnikov, I wonder what would the Oxford add. Anyway, going to try it for a few days.
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Post by ragan on Jun 10, 2024 12:05:51 GMT -6
Yeah kinda same here. I don’t really need any utility stuff, but I’ll probably give Oxford Dynamics a demo.
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Post by thehightenor on Jun 10, 2024 14:55:49 GMT -6
I'm tempted to get the Oxford Dynamics. I really wasn't thinking about getting another digital compressor, but this sounds interesting, responsive is what I would say. But already having Pro-C and Kotelnikov, I wonder what would the Oxford add. Anyway, going to try it for a few days. Like most, I have an unreasonably big plugin collection built up over the years. But there’s something a bit special about the Sonnox EQ and Dynamics. There’s something of a very fine resolution and beautiful clarity to their sound - other plug-ins I have are great too but they never quite match this certain quality I find very appealing in the Sonnox EQ and Dynamics - hard to put a finger on it - as I say it’s a finesse and sonic clarity I personally find very appealing.
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Post by ragan on Jun 10, 2024 14:58:21 GMT -6
Hey dan how do you rate the Oxford EQ vs TDR Nova
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 10, 2024 22:45:13 GMT -6
And it's even better than 75%, they have additional stacking discounts for each additional plug. Bastards!
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Post by thehightenor on Jun 11, 2024 1:10:25 GMT -6
And it's even better than 75%, they have additional stacking discounts for each additional plug. Bastards! So have the new £29 to £49 each Waves, UAD and the like finally started to hurt their sales. Hard to sell plugins costing £200+ each these days!
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 11, 2024 1:55:19 GMT -6
And it's even better than 75%, they have additional stacking discounts for each additional plug. Bastards! So have the new £29 to £49 each Waves, UAD and the like finally started to hurt their sales. Hard to sell plugins costing £200+ each these days! Exactly. And I'm trying Oxford Limiter on a particular problem track and, at least for this track, it is way cleaner than anything else I was using before. I don't know, maybe it was user error or something but this thing worked very, very nicely for this track.
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Post by sean on Jun 11, 2024 6:38:18 GMT -6
ListenHub is an incredible utility if you need an easy way to monitor multiple sources such as your DAW, Streaming, and another reference (I like to use a rough mix) with dim controls and a ton of other great functions...including the ability to use a iPhone or tablet as the controller. I use Oxford Dynamics on every session. I'll probably pick up the Enhance collection while it's on sale
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Post by Dan on Jun 11, 2024 8:50:06 GMT -6
I'm tempted to get the Oxford Dynamics. I really wasn't thinking about getting another digital compressor, but this sounds interesting, responsive is what I would say. But already having Pro-C and Kotelnikov, I wonder what would the Oxford add. Anyway, going to try it for a few days. A dynamic multi effect that only picks one process at a time to not modulate the modulation. Kotelnikov is cleanest thing around, even hugging the material better than the glue does at 16x over sampling. Oxford is a multi effect. Lookahead smooths the attack out and depends on sample rate, like a more aggressive Renaissance Compressor. It doesn’t really alias and lookahead is never too long (powair, faraday, many compressors that can have better look ahead) or has forced hold (metric halo channel strip except for mio which still has a cheeseball linear release like ReaComp, the Harrison channel strip comps) and is less dark than renaissance compressor. At 44.1 kHz, it only compresses up to 3 kHz because the minimum attack time (not rate. It has a short look ahead so the compressor must reduce gain for at least length of the look ahead to not release prematurely without a hold. Hold on the compressor is merely a release scaler) is longer than those frequencies so it acts like a smooth fader ride to them. This can tonally change the sound and of course it hugs the signal better at higher sample rates and can compress higher ones because the lookahead time scales with sample rate.
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Post by nnajar on Jun 11, 2024 9:06:32 GMT -6
the one to have is the GML option on the eq. it's the only eq i use.
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Post by Dan on Jun 11, 2024 9:16:33 GMT -6
Hey dan how do you rate the Oxford EQ vs TDR Nova Oxford dynamic eq? Also clean but less surgical because it uses the type 3, ssl g / neve like curves from the Oxford eq. Forces a short look ahead unlike Nova GE, where that is optional. Nova GE also has the surgical curves. Nova GE musical mode default has broad constant eq curves in static filters and neve type q decreasing with gain in dynamic. The there’s the surgical mode. I don’t think it’s necessary but the workflow is faster than nova but nova is more precise and can do more and I think is the better plug. No dynamic shelves in Oxford dynamic eq! Honestly it is the second best dynamic eq after nova and both feel cleaner to me than fabfilter and don’t have the forced hold that fabfilter, Kirchhoff, and others have. Weiss eq1 has a hold too but also has a look ahead that’s stupidly turned off in the softube by default. I stopped using the Weiss stuff after softube automatically muted the processing when no audio was going through it, it gates the plugin and noise, including 24-bit dither and I don’t want the audio detector to lag and wake up from a. Sudden event when using it as a dynamics processor! I guarantee that gate is not nearly as responsive as the DS1 or EQ1 dynamics (with look ahead on!)because it’s in the EQ MP too! I’m guessing these eqs have the holds and long look heads because their outdated or inferior filter structure cannot be modulated or they do not have ramped parameters to prevent zipper noise. Anyways I think the Oxford dynamic eq is great unlike the Claro which is still stupid cpu heavy. The regular eq is a classic with a dated gui that needs to scale up. It’s my favorite no latency eq though with decramped filters.
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Post by ragan on Jun 11, 2024 9:50:51 GMT -6
Hey dan how do you rate the Oxford EQ vs TDR Nova Oxford dynamic eq? Also clean but less surgical because it uses the type 3, ssl g / neve like curves from the Oxford eq. Forces a short look ahead unlike Nova GE, where that is optional. Nova GE also has the surgical curves. Nova GE musical mode default has broad constant eq curves in static filters and neve type q decreasing with gain in dynamic. The there’s the surgical mode. I don’t think it’s necessary but the workflow is faster than nova but nova is more precise and can do more and I think is the better plug. No dynamic shelves in Oxford dynamic eq! Honestly it is the second best dynamic eq after nova and both feel cleaner to me than fabfilter and don’t have the forced hold that fabfilter, Kirchhoff, and others have. Weiss eq1 has a hold too but also has a look ahead that’s stupidly turned off in the softube by default. I stopped using the Weiss stuff after softube automatically muted the processing when no audio was going through it, it gates the plugin and noise, including 24-bit dither and I don’t want the audio detector to lag and wake up from a. Sudden event when using it as a dynamics processor! I guarantee that gate is not nearly as responsive as the DS1 or EQ1 dynamics (with look ahead on!)because it’s in the EQ MP too! I’m guessing these eqs have the holds and long look heads because their outdated or inferior filter structure cannot be modulated or they do not have ramped parameters to prevent zipper noise. Anyways I think the Oxford dynamic eq is great unlike the Claro which is still stupid cpu heavy. The regular eq is a classic with a dated gui that needs to scale up. It’s my favorite no latency eq though with decramped filters. Oh I just meant regular EQ. I'm not at all familiar with the Oxford stuff because it's always been lol prices.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 11, 2024 11:15:11 GMT -6
ListenHub is an incredible utility if you need an easy way to monitor multiple sources such as your DAW, Streaming, and another reference (I like to use a rough mix) with dim controls and a ton of other great functions...including the ability to use a iPhone or tablet as the controller. I use Oxford Dynamics on every session. I'll probably pick up the Enhance collection while it's on sale Used this last night and it's awesome. Actually, in another thread I was asking how people deal with the current challenges in converting to WAV files and I think in the back of my mind I was thinking of ListenHub but couldn't remember it. It is super cool. I tested a bunch of Sonnox stuff last night but ListenHub is an instant buy for me. (A bit of a process to set up. Not hard, just a lot of steps... worth it.)
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 11, 2024 11:24:18 GMT -6
Oxford dynamic eq? Also clean but less surgical because it uses the type 3, ssl g / neve like curves from the Oxford eq. Forces a short look ahead unlike Nova GE, where that is optional. Nova GE also has the surgical curves. Nova GE musical mode default has broad constant eq curves in static filters and neve type q decreasing with gain in dynamic. The there’s the surgical mode. I don’t think it’s necessary but the workflow is faster than nova but nova is more precise and can do more and I think is the better plug. No dynamic shelves in Oxford dynamic eq! Honestly it is the second best dynamic eq after nova and both feel cleaner to me than fabfilter and don’t have the forced hold that fabfilter, Kirchhoff, and others have. Weiss eq1 has a hold too but also has a look ahead that’s stupidly turned off in the softube by default. I stopped using the Weiss stuff after softube automatically muted the processing when no audio was going through it, it gates the plugin and noise, including 24-bit dither and I don’t want the audio detector to lag and wake up from a. Sudden event when using it as a dynamics processor! I guarantee that gate is not nearly as responsive as the DS1 or EQ1 dynamics (with look ahead on!)because it’s in the EQ MP too! I’m guessing these eqs have the holds and long look heads because their outdated or inferior filter structure cannot be modulated or they do not have ramped parameters to prevent zipper noise. Anyways I think the Oxford dynamic eq is great unlike the Claro which is still stupid cpu heavy. The regular eq is a classic with a dated gui that needs to scale up. It’s my favorite no latency eq though with decramped filters. Oh I just meant regular EQ. I'm not at all familiar with the Oxford stuff because it's always been lol prices. Me too. Never even bothered to look because I would never pay [insert high number] dollars for yet another parametric EQ. Early thoughts... Limiter - I get the hype. I don't need more limiters. But, I do need this one. Coulda saved a lot of money if I had bought this four years ago. Inflator - To be determined. Seems like Limiter has a stripped down version of what Inflator has and since I would never really be pushing Inflator too hard in my genre, maybe superfluous? EQ - I actually kind of like the ugly GUI in a weird way. The visuals give me just enough feedback to know what I'm doing. Claro - Way better than other tools for adjusting masking issues and moving quickly through tracks. It is CPU heavy though. Tried on a mix last night and when I was done de-masking I just replaced all the Clara instances with Oxford EQ. Problem solved but it kind of limits you to only use it on busses if that's the workflow. Voca - This one is weird. I just started closing my eyes and moving stuff around and then it sounded good at one point. The analytical part of my brain really hates not knowing why it worked because I can't repeat it, but my ears liked it so jury is out. I thought this would overlap too much with VocalShaper but they actually have a very different way of doing a similar thing. I'd see Voca and VocalShaper as complimentary tools. ListenHub - Must buy. It's cheap and unique and works great. Buy it. Those are the ones that might fill needs for me. With the discount and the stacking bundle price, the whole package would be temptingly cheap but I'm gonna do the demos all the way before deciding.
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Post by jaba on Jun 11, 2024 13:53:03 GMT -6
Any idea how this compares to ADPTR Metric AB?
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Post by jaba on Jun 11, 2024 13:53:37 GMT -6
Referring to ListenHub...
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 11, 2024 14:09:21 GMT -6
It's a totally different thing. What it does is allow you to take the audio from your computer and route it through their plug-in. So anything you stream or from your desktop or anything at all can be matched with what you have in your DAW. And you can add plug-ins as well so you can put room corrections software on there.
It has some very rudimentary visuals and stuff but not nearly the level of metering as AB.
I was using both last night and they made quite a pair.
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Post by sean on Jun 11, 2024 17:06:50 GMT -6
If you use Sonarworks or any kind of EQ for your monitors that you normally place on your master fader, you can use master hub instead and keep it out of your session. It also has nice dim features and the ability to solo bands like MetricAB
Usually how I set it up is I have “System” be my computer, which could be iTunes/Spotify/YouTube…my “Main” as my mix…and my “Reference” a rough mix inside the session, or another artist song, so I can quickly jump around. I also use the various “dim” levels. It’s a great piece of software
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Post by ragan on Jun 12, 2024 0:41:09 GMT -6
Tried Oxford Dynamics. It's really good.
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Post by thehightenor on Jun 12, 2024 1:08:16 GMT -6
Tried Oxford Dynamics. It's really good. Yep.
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