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Post by ericn on Oct 31, 2023 13:37:51 GMT -6
now to wait for the avalon 737sp clones any day (I hope so) We have a word for those, we call them used, and they are 100 percent faithful to a new one.😎 |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 31, 2023 15:55:36 GMT -6
The car dealers prefer to say "Pre-Owned". For Avalons.  Chris |
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Post by elmolemon on Oct 31, 2023 16:20:15 GMT -6
I watched a few of the videos and now I want an original CL1B even more.
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 31, 2023 18:47:43 GMT -6
I watched a few of the videos and now I want an original CL1B even more. ^THIS^ |
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Post by seawell on Oct 31, 2023 19:26:02 GMT -6
I wonder what part(s) have been so hard to source for Tube-Tech?
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Post by probably on Oct 31, 2023 19:39:03 GMT -6
now to wait for the avalon 737sp clones any day (I hope so) We have a word for those, we call them used, and they are 100 percent faithful to a new one.😎 I would love to buy a used one but too many other things need to be addressed before I can even think about another piece of audio equipment. |
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Post by seawell on Oct 31, 2023 23:49:58 GMT -6
Due to the faceplates alone, I bet that’s why no one has attempted an Avalon clone or any of the focusrite red series 😁. It would be awfully hard to pull off those looks at an affordable price.
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2023 6:06:35 GMT -6
Due to the faceplates alone, I bet that’s why no one has attempted an Avalon clone or any of the focusrite red series 😁. It would be awfully hard to pull off those looks at an affordable price. Sadly I think you’re absolutely right, it’s sad that it not only has to sound right but look right. The worst part is I know the Avalon buyers would not bite on a box that exactly matched the Sonics but had a plain look, but if you nailed the look no matter what it sounded like it would sell. |
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Post by Darren Boling on Nov 1, 2023 9:28:03 GMT -6
I wonder what part(s) have been so hard to source for Tube-Tech? I think I read one time the opto cells they use aren't made anymore so they're saving them all for new units and repairs. I could be wrong and maybe it's something else but if that were true it'd make sense to keep the retail price high and only let a trickle of new units come out, keep the GAS going. |
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Post by drbill on Nov 1, 2023 9:29:19 GMT -6
Due to the faceplates alone, I bet that’s why no one has attempted an Avalon clone or any of the focusrite red series 😁. It would be awfully hard to pull off those looks at an affordable price. Sadly I think you’re absolutely right, it’s sad that it not only has to sound right but look right. The worst part is I know the Avalon buyers would not bite on a box that exactly matched the Sonics but had a plain look, but if you nailed the look no matter what it sounded like it would sell. Hence why the blue faceplate is SCREAMING at me to buy it. But I will remain in control, and exercise my common sense. Plus, my racks are all full anyways - and it would have to be BETTER than whatever I'm removing, so....I will remain in control. |
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Post by seawell on Nov 1, 2023 9:52:22 GMT -6
Speaking of faceplates...the fact that they put WARM-AUDIO on this one made me laugh out loud. Nice touch! haha
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2023 11:31:30 GMT -6
Sadly I think you’re absolutely right, it’s sad that it not only has to sound right but look right. The worst part is I know the Avalon buyers would not bite on a box that exactly matched the Sonics but had a plain look, but if you nailed the look no matter what it sounded like it would sell. Hence why the blue faceplate is SCREAMING at me to buy it. But I will remain in control, and exercise my common sense. Plus, my racks are all full anyways - and it would have to be BETTER than whatever I'm removing, so....I will remain in control. We Need a bigger rack! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 1, 2023 11:34:26 GMT -6
Well, if it is a not a Tubtech, but a clone resulting from Warm Audio’s decisions, what would you put on faceplate ?
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Post by the other mark williams on Nov 1, 2023 11:34:48 GMT -6
Hence why the blue faceplate is SCREAMING at me to buy it. But I will remain in control, and exercise my common sense. Plus, my racks are all full anyways - and it would have to be BETTER than whatever I'm removing, so....I will remain in control. We Need a bigger rack! I don't know if drbill has any more room in there! |
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2023 11:36:08 GMT -6
Speaking of faceplates...the fact that they put WARM-AUDIO on this one made me laugh out loud. Nice touch! haha At their price point Warm has established themselves as a “ respectable” brand, I’ll bet that if you include mics there are 2x as many Warm products out there than Tubetech. What always interests me is what the modders will do and charge to make this more like the original. |
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Post by ab101 on Nov 1, 2023 11:40:14 GMT -6
Sadly I think you’re absolutely right, it’s sad that it not only has to sound right but look right. The worst part is I know the Avalon buyers would not bite on a box that exactly matched the Sonics but had a plain look, but if you nailed the look no matter what it sounded like it would sell. Hence why the blue faceplate is SCREAMING at me to buy it. But I will remain in control, and exercise my common sense. Plus, my racks are all full anyways - and it would have to be BETTER than whatever I'm removing, so....I will remain in control. Does this mean a Blue Bullet is in the works??? " Seriously, Silver is actually more neutral and just fine! |
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Post by drbill on Nov 1, 2023 12:51:20 GMT -6
Hence why the blue faceplate is SCREAMING at me to buy it. But I will remain in control, and exercise my common sense. Plus, my racks are all full anyways - and it would have to be BETTER than whatever I'm removing, so....I will remain in control. We Need a bigger rack! I need a bigger studio first. It's gonna get VERY expensive for rack expansion. |
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Post by drbill on Nov 1, 2023 13:06:17 GMT -6
I don't know if drbill has any more room in there! I don't. As mentioned - I'm full up!! |
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Post by chessparov on Nov 1, 2023 13:35:40 GMT -6
Sure.  Chris |
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Post by Vincent R. on Nov 1, 2023 14:28:25 GMT -6
Speaking of faceplates...the fact that they put WARM-AUDIO on this one made me laugh out loud. Nice touch! haha At their price point Warm has established themselves as a “ respectable” brand, I’ll bet that if you include mics there are 2x as many Warm products out there than Tubetech. What always interests me is what the modders will do and charge to make this more like the original. I was thinking about that myself. www.reviveaudio.com has a ton of Warm Audio mods. I'm curious if they'll make one for this unit. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2023 14:32:10 GMT -6
At their price point Warm has established themselves as a “ respectable” brand, I’ll bet that if you include mics there are 2x as many Warm products out there than Tubetech. What always interests me is what the modders will do and charge to make this more like the original. I was thinking about that myself. www.reviveaudio.com has a ton of Warm Audio mods. I'm curious if they'll make one for this unit. They are a perfect platform, but you will notice while they upgrade opamps transformers, capacitors and resistors, nothing about pots and switches. It’s a step up when it comes to the sexy brand name stuff, but the parts that will actually wear out? Ah who cares. |
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Post by Ward on Nov 1, 2023 18:18:25 GMT -6
I wonder what part(s) have been so hard to source for Tube-Tech? Multipe people in the know, distributors included, have stated that isn't the problem. The company isn't set up for unlimited production, they have a limited capacity and don't plan on changing that. If it works, it works. Slow and steady doesn't need to win the race |
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2023 18:23:59 GMT -6
I wonder what part(s) have been so hard to source for Tube-Tech? Multipe people in the know, distributors included, have stated that isn't the problem. The company isn't set up for unlimited production, they have a limited capacity and don't plan on changing that. If it works, it works. Slow and steady doesn't need to win the race Better to have back orders, than No orders. |
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Post by Ward on Nov 1, 2023 18:27:24 GMT -6
Multipe people in the know, distributors included, have stated that isn't the problem. The company isn't set up for unlimited production, they have a limited capacity and don't plan on changing that. If it works, it works. Slow and steady doesn't need to win the race Better to have back orders, than No orders. More boutique builders need to adopt or maintain that attitude and business model Most boutique customers understand this business model. It is a GREAT business model. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 1, 2023 18:56:05 GMT -6
Better to have back orders, than No orders. More boutique builders need to adopt or maintain that attitude and business model Most boutique customers understand this business model. It is a GREAT business model. The problem is one very large dealer is very convincing at telling manufacturers the exact opposite. |
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