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MK-U47
Jan 25, 2015 10:08:27 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 25, 2015 10:08:27 GMT -6
jcoutou, it was a long time ago, and there might have been some EQ things I've forgotten about that caused the Manley Gold to sound the way it did. They do sound good, but maybe a little thin when compared to a U47.
Check this out fellas;
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MK-U47
Jan 25, 2015 15:03:06 GMT -6
Post by RicFoxx on Jan 25, 2015 15:03:06 GMT -6
Manly Ref C is a great Mic! It would be a nice compliment to the Mk47.
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MK-U47
Jan 25, 2015 19:17:37 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 25, 2015 19:17:37 GMT -6
If I had the MK47, I'd like to have either a C12 or ELAM 251 style mic to compliment it. In the case of my Blackspade/Tab Funkenwerk UM17 Blueline, it seems to be a perfect fit for female vocals, so I'd LOVE to have the MK47 too, for my vocals, but alas, I can only afford one main mic at this time. My friend just got a Cascade Vin-Jet with the Tab/Funkenwerk Archut transformer, and it's absolutely pro, not a hint of sibilance, very old radio vibey, but first class all the way, and it's only $399 ! I'd love to hear a comparison between it and the MK47, just for the fun of it.
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Post by kidvybes on Jan 25, 2015 23:32:21 GMT -6
My friend just got a Cascade Vin-Jet with the Tab/Funkenwerk Archut transformer, and it's absolutely pro, not a hint of sibilance, very old radio vibey, but first class all the way, and it's only $399 ! I'd love to hear a comparison between it and the MK47, just for the fun of it. ...I've been using the Cascade Victor with Lundahl ($299 from B&H Photo) for both male and female vocals...I just finished a new track with my Samar Audio modded Cascade Victor featuring a female vocalist (to be released shortly)...both are exceptional values for vocal tracking, and beat out my MK-47 on male vocals and my Matachung C12 on female vocals... ...here's the $299 Cascade Victor w/Lundahl on female vocals: www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_19843022...and male vocals: www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_22247454
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MK-U47
Jan 26, 2015 10:48:10 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 26, 2015 10:48:10 GMT -6
Dang, that's cool kidvybes, and very open minded of you! Only good ears can hear past their investment and choose the right thing for the situation ! I used my LDC on an acoustic guitar track recently, when a KM84 was sitting right here that day.
* sheeut, that sounds great kidvybes. ** what's the "Samar" mod?
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MK-U47
Jan 26, 2015 13:36:28 GMT -6
Post by kidvybes on Jan 26, 2015 13:36:28 GMT -6
* sheeut, that sounds great kidvybes. ** what's the "Samar" mod? ...those two tracks were done with the stock Cascade Victor w/Lundahl...in this case, the "Samar Mod" I referred to is ribbon-mic guru Mark Fouxman's modification of a base-level Cascade Victor, which includes re-ribboning with 1.8mu aluminum ribbon, installation of his custom Samar toroidal transformer, and removal of the stock acoustic plates followed by replacement with his own custom-design acoustic plates... ...the cost of the mods back in 2013 were: Re-ribboning--$129 Transformer (installed)--$149 Custom Plates (installed)--$99 ...when you consider that Samar Audio Ribbon Microphones are some of the best in the world (http://samaraudiodesign.com/Products.html), the cost of modifying the $169 Cascade long-ribbon mic is quite reasonable...as soon we get this new tune up on iTunes (on which female vocals were recorded with this mic) I will post a link for you to listen...it sounds great! (IMHO ;-)) PS...sorry for temporarily derailing the MK-U47 thread...
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MK-U47
Jan 26, 2015 16:29:50 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 26, 2015 16:29:50 GMT -6
They're related in a way. The U47 is THE classic mic, and the RCA ribbon was a classic too. I'm guessing the Victor is in the direction of the RCA "Victor" company's mics. So a comparison would be interesting. Thanks for the mod info kidvybes. It's been a while, but I remember finding the Cascade Vin-Jet sounded better than all the other ribbons I heard on the Recording Hacks.com $60,000 ribbon mic shootout, with the exception of two much higher priced Royer's. Taking the bronze medal ain't bad at $399, I think. Wish I still had the link to that shootout. The link at their site doesn't show which mic is which now.
I'm really looking forward to hearing the MK47 in some tracks now. Of course listening to the mic flat is of interest, but I've found that hearing it in context is much more enlightening.
I once did a shootout between my mic and a Lauten Atlantis. At first, the Atlantis knocked your head back, incredible Neumanesque sounds, like a U47 FET or U87, but after listening to it in my tracks, my mic killed it.
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Post by wagz on May 20, 2015 19:55:41 GMT -6
I've got one of these MK-U47 mics on the way. I am not the most tech-savy. CAT5 is helping me out. Mine will have the Neumann K49 capsule.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 20, 2015 20:04:10 GMT -6
I've got one of these MK-U47 mics on the way. I am not the most tech-savy. CAT5 is helping me out. Mine will have the Neumann K49 capsule. welcome wagz, is cat5 building it for you? he's an awesome builder for sure, if he's not, just be very methodical and take your time, if you run into snags there are plenty of people here and at GDIY who will be happy to help you out.
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Post by wagz on May 20, 2015 21:07:48 GMT -6
Thanks, Tony. Cat5 is actually building it. I only decided that I would prefer the K49 capsule and got the capsule and the parts to mount the capsule. He has been very patient with me.
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MK-U47
May 21, 2015 9:43:14 GMT -6
Post by aremos on May 21, 2015 9:43:14 GMT -6
Isn't the K-49 the same as the K-47?
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Post by watchtower on May 21, 2015 14:20:54 GMT -6
Neumann no longer calls it the K47. It's designated the K49 now, but it's the same capsule. Wagz means he wanted the K47/49 as opposed to an M7 (Thiersch)
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MK-U47
May 21, 2015 16:46:55 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on May 21, 2015 16:46:55 GMT -6
If memory serves, wasn't the K49 the designation when they switched to PVC? Just like the Thiersch "Redline or Blueline" I believe.
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MK-U47
May 21, 2015 16:47:43 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on May 21, 2015 16:47:43 GMT -6
I'm not sure, but if memory serves, wasn't the K49 the designation when they switched to PVC? Just like the Thiersch "Redline or Blueline" I believe.
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MK-U47
May 21, 2015 18:17:04 GMT -6
Post by tonycamphd on May 21, 2015 18:17:04 GMT -6
I'm not sure, but if memory serves, wasn't the K49 the designation when they switched to PVC? Just like the Thiersch "Redline or Blueline" I believe. As far as i know the K49 is new because i know nothing about it, pretty sure the M7 was Neumann's first LDC capsule, the PVC was the original skin, the K47 came later with mylar skin.
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MK-U47
May 21, 2015 19:39:04 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on May 21, 2015 19:39:04 GMT -6
Will see if I can find out, if it doesn't take too long.. Ahh.. you're right Tony! Look at the bottom of the page, both left and right side.. www.tab-funkenwerk.com/id58.html
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Post by kidvybes on May 21, 2015 20:55:33 GMT -6
...I hope to have one of Dany "mad-scientist" Bouchard's new D7 capsule prototypes in the next week or so...I will be bringing it over to Cat5's to be tested in an MK-U47...Dany has also tooled his own custom mounts...
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Post by category5 on May 23, 2015 11:39:51 GMT -6
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MK-U47
May 23, 2015 12:45:07 GMT -6
Post by Johnkenn on May 23, 2015 12:45:07 GMT -6
That a new Neumann k49?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 23, 2015 13:24:26 GMT -6
I say these builders NEED to put brass rings on EVERY capsule they build(like back in the day), the nylon rings are a cheapout, and asking for trouble simply due to their physical makeup, the brass backplates and nylon rings will expand and contract at different rates with temp flux, employing a brass tension ring will go far toward stabilizing the relationship between said brass ring, and the brass backplate it's screwed to.
I have no scientific evidence for this beyond the obvious, but the reason i say this is because most capsules i've dealt with that don't sound good or have had wrinkles appear(which never sound good), have had nylon rings.
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MK-U47
May 23, 2015 16:34:19 GMT -6
Post by wagz on May 23, 2015 16:34:19 GMT -6
Yes. I ordered it straight from Sennheiser/Neumann.
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Post by wagz on May 23, 2015 16:42:01 GMT -6
...I hope to have one of Dany "mad-scientist" Bouchard's new D7 capsule prototypes in the next week or so...I will be bringing it over to Cat5's to be tested in an MK-U47...Dany has also tooled his own custom mounts... That sounds like an excellent opportunity to compare the D7 capsule against the Neumann K49. Acoustic guitar and male vocal comparisons would be cool. That would help others get an idea of what all of these different caps can sound like.
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MK-U47
May 23, 2015 17:32:27 GMT -6
Post by kidvybes on May 23, 2015 17:32:27 GMT -6
...I hope to have one of Dany "mad-scientist" Bouchard's new D7 capsule prototypes in the next week or so...I will be bringing it over to Cat5's to be tested in an MK-U47...Dany has also tooled his own custom mounts... That sounds like an excellent opportunity to compare the D7 capsule against the Neumann K49. Acoustic guitar and male vocal comparisons would be cool. That would help others get an idea of what all of these different caps can sound like. Well, Shane will have both for testing...Dany alerted me that he will be sending it this week...I also have the Heiserman HK47 which is a hybrid design combining the hole-pattern of the K47 with the dual-backplate design of a K67...
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MK-U47
May 23, 2015 17:38:42 GMT -6
Post by kcatthedog on May 23, 2015 17:38:42 GMT -6
that cap just looks uber sweet ! nice build Shane, did you use carpenter's glue,, oh , wait that was the boys cabin right ?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 23, 2015 18:00:46 GMT -6
I've got one of these MK-U47 mics on the way. I am not the most tech-savy. CAT5 is helping me out. Mine will have the Neumann K49 capsule. Cat 5 will build you a mic that will knock your socks off and last you a lifetime. He's the good stuff.
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