What new for dsp has UA got cooking

I'd be curious about the "like to/don't like to flip between two apps" groups and see how many of the people in those groups have done live sound. Especially for live sound in a more upper level "assistant engineer running the monitor console" sort of way..

Or even worked in a studio on a console where some channels were patched to print to tape/disk and the other channels were patched for playback.

I guess I like the two apps thing. I want to be able to give the artist their monitoring preference (which often times is their part out-of-balance with the rest of the track and with way too much or too little ambience) but I also want to be able to flip to playback and have the level/fx/mix be closer to a real mix and less like an out-of-balance mess. That second app is just a monitor console set up only a cmd+tab away.

I'm looking forward to someone deciding they can part with their BF Apollo 16 for a decent price. UA stuff holds an inflated 2nd hand value for a reason I don't quite understand. I don't need THE MOST PERFECT conversion. I need a stable rig of conversion/interfaces with medium ol' pile of decent sounding i/o and I WANT IT IMMEDIATELY or whenever the right deal comes up.

I'd be curious about the "like to/don't like to flip between two apps" groups and see how many of the people in those groups have done live sound. Especially for live sound in a more upper level "assistant engineer running the monitor console" sort of way..

Or even worked in a studio on a console where some channels were patched to print to tape/disk and the other channels were patched for playback.

I guess I like the two apps thing. I want to be able to give the artist their monitoring preference (which often times is their part out-of-balance with the rest of the track and with way too much or too little ambience) but I also want to be able to flip to playback and have the level/fx/mix be closer to a real mix and less like an out-of-balance mess. That second app is just a monitor console set up only a cmd+tab away.

I'm looking forward to someone deciding they can part with their BF Apollo 16 for a decent price. UA stuff holds an inflated 2nd hand value for a reason I don't quite understand. I don't need THE MOST PERFECT conversion. I need a stable rig of conversion/interfaces with medium ol' pile of decent sounding i/o and I WANT IT IMMEDIATELY or whenever the right deal comes up.

I'd be curious about the "like to/don't like to flip between two apps" groups and see how many of the people in those groups have done live sound. Especially for live sound in a more upper level "assistant engineer running the monitor console" sort of way..

Or even worked in a studio on a console where some channels were patched to print to tape/disk and the other channels were patched for playback.

I guess I like the two apps thing. I want to be able to give the artist their monitoring preference (which often times is their part out-of-balance with the rest of the track and with way too much or too little ambience) but I also want to be able to flip to playback and have the level/fx/mix be closer to a real mix and less like an out-of-balance mess. That second app is just a monitor console set up only a cmd+tab away.

What I meant to say in that previous post was that you have to pay for those preamps, even if you're not using them. If you intend to use those preamps, then cool. But if not, then your paying for something you're not using.

I'm in the "like two apps" and "punch to get the right performance" camps. I like having the two different mix snapshots, basically. I'm not interested in comping later if I can at all avoid it. I'd rather get it right away, know we have it, and not waste time/brain power worrying about it again later.

I think that's super interesting - you having so much live experience but not liking the two-apps thing. For me it feels like two things for two separate tasks similar to FOH console and a separate monitor desk.

That throws my theory right out the window, I guess!

I just don't understand why you need two apps for this. Maybe it's a ProTools thing? Someone else was saying that PT doesn't have a screen with full size input meters for example. I don't know if that's accurate.

In Logic/S1/Reaper it's very easy to manage all of this stuff if your interface allows it. I use a workflow very similar to what Console forces me to do but I do it in my DAW. 

I just don't understand why you need two apps for this. Maybe it's a ProTools thing? Someone else was saying that PT doesn't have a screen with full size input meters for example. I don't know if that's accurate.

In Logic/S1/Reaper it's very easy to manage all of this stuff if your interface allows it. I use a workflow very similar to what Console forces me to do but I do it in my DAW. 

I don’t record much through plugins, but I prefer to always use direct monitoring anyway for the lower latency along with the added stability of being able to keep my buffer size high. Console is also much faster for me to setup multiple headphone cues, the musicians like that they can continue to hear themselves play as I’m closing one session and opening up another, and if someone wants to hear a reverb or delay while recording it’s easy and quick to setup with no latency. Lots of benefits for me.

I'm not sure which parameters you mean. I build cue mixes through those DAW's and the direct monitoring is... direct? So it doesn't go through anything, it's just direct. 

If you need an effect on your monitor mix that we're not tracking, no problem I just send the recorded signal out to your cue mix and blend it with your direct signal. I monitor all the input levels from the same screen and if something is clipping I turn down the preamp the only way that I can possibly turn it down, with a knob. I can adjust the trim levels through the interfaces crappy digital mixer if I wanted to but why would I? I track with plenty of headroom anyway, it's digital. 

This is pretty straightforward signal routing. I used Console for a long time. Maybe I was underutilizing it or something but there's nothing I can do with Console that I'm missing. I could even track with plugins if I wanted to but, unlike with DSP powered UAD plugs, I'd have to live with the delay but that's not the DAW's fault... that's just DSP vs native.

I’m monitoring through Cranborne 500 ADAT using it as a line mixer. I send an out from my interface containing my cue mix into the aux in on the Cranborne and blend that with the direct signal.

So no, no increase in latency on the direct signal. I still try to keep the buffer low just to keep things tight but that’s really just my own preference. Direct signal is direct.