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Post by robo on Nov 29, 2022 11:51:30 GMT -6
Sebatron. I had an original Thorax at one point. It was probably pretty good...I just didn't know how to use it. I’ve just used Sebatron preamps, but I still use them regularly. I found the stock tubes a touch cloudy, but they are excellent pres with good drive and tonal shaping. I think the “bang for the buck” market is just saturated nowadays, so lesser gear is getting the spotlight. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 29, 2022 11:58:29 GMT -6
So you’re saying he was a highly regarded mic tech🤪. I mean thinking back what independent mic tech other than Klaus didn’t have that rep? Not just mics. I know he has had pieces belonging to friends of mine for over a decade. They figure a law suit would be the only way to deal with it, but don't have the time or effort to launch it. We need a that sucks button! Am I surprised? no. Lawsuit, yeah try to collect and pay the lawyers! |
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Post by Ward on Nov 29, 2022 17:00:08 GMT -6
Just like his capsules if you have a singer that gets above a mezzo forte. Before he was in the mic biz, repairs were his game and I know of a few people he NEVER repaired of RETURNED gear to. agreed So you’re saying he was a highly regarded mic tech🤪. I mean thinking back what independent mic tech other than Klaus didn’t have that rep? Bill Bradley? The Mic Shop |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 17:13:09 GMT -6
It'll be a cold day in hell when someone pries my Drawmer 1960 out of steely grip. Drawmer used to get the recognition it deserves. Drawmer has a lot of GREAT kit. The 1961 Tube EQ is not for everything, but where it works - it really works. Their newer 197x series is all a good intersection of price/performance. Ugliest design language I've seen on an outboard anything ever. Pug-fugly. Like Stryper designed it with MacPaint and only the system fonts. The 1978 is like the most flexible drum bus comp ever. The VCA compressors are still good too and cheap used. |
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Post by ab101 on Nov 29, 2022 17:27:28 GMT -6
I never tried the 1978. My loss. However, I did try the new Drawmer 1974 stereo eq. I had really low expectations because of the low price. It sounds fabulous. Sweetwater still has them for $1149 new!
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Post by ericn on Nov 29, 2022 17:48:40 GMT -6
So you’re saying he was a highly regarded mic tech🤪. I mean thinking back what independent mic tech other than Klaus didn’t have that rep? Bill Bradley? The Mic Shop There have been stories, same as the rest. A pawn shop owner in Houston used Stephen Paul for years, he was slow as hell , but he always felt guilty and charged next to nothing. I think this guy scared the hell out of him. |
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Post by bchurch on Nov 29, 2022 18:54:59 GMT -6
Not just mics. I know he has had pieces belonging to friends of mine for over a decade. They figure a law suit would be the only way to deal with it, but don't have the time or effort to launch it. We need a that sucks button! Am I surprised? no. Lawsuit, yeah try to collect and pay the lawyers! Sometimes a sock full of fishing lures is the best way to get your point across. |
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Post by nick8801 on Nov 29, 2022 20:32:16 GMT -6
Nobody has mentioned Oktavamod…I had so much of their stuff back in the day.
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Post by plinker on Nov 29, 2022 20:55:11 GMT -6
Nobody has mentioned Oktavamod…I had so much of their stuff back in the day. Yeah -- seems like many did. Why do you think M. Joly retired from that? Competition? |
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Post by chessparov on Nov 29, 2022 21:44:47 GMT -6
Michael Joly started a non-Audio related business.
IMHO his timing was good.
I think the demand for mods in general, started declining, around when he made that change and retired.
I also think MJ did excellent mod work BTW
I'm sorry Tony, to hear of non-repaired-let alone non-returned microphones, of your friends.
As some of you may know, Stephen Paul had an assistant, who supposedly did similar things, after Stephen passed away.
(SP was a genius in my book)
Chris
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Post by drumsound on Nov 29, 2022 22:44:37 GMT -6
Not just mics. I know he has had pieces belonging to friends of mine for over a decade. They figure a law suit would be the only way to deal with it, but don't have the time or effort to launch it. We need a that sucks button! Am I surprised? no. Lawsuit, yeah try to collect and pay the lawyers! Exactly We need a that sucks button! Am I surprised? no. Lawsuit, yeah try to collect and pay the lawyers! Sometimes a sock full of fishing lures is the best way to get your point across. YO |
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Post by bchurch on Nov 30, 2022 5:01:19 GMT -6
Nobody has mentioned Oktavamod…I had so much of their stuff back in the day. Still using an MJE / OktavaMod as my daily driver LDC. Great mic. |
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Post by nick8801 on Nov 30, 2022 10:52:04 GMT -6
Nobody has mentioned Oktavamod…I had so much of their stuff back in the day. Yeah -- seems like many did. Why do you think M. Joly retired from that? Competition? A friend of mine runs his websites. He got tired of the modding business and knew it was going to decline. |
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Post by bchurch on Nov 30, 2022 17:48:58 GMT -6
Yeah -- seems like many did. Why do you think M. Joly retired from that? Competition? A friend of mine runs his websites. He got tired of the modding business and knew it was going to decline. I had some conversations with him right after he retired. He had something of a... "spiritual awakening" and wanted to do something that was helpful to the world with the meditative binaural beats thing. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 30, 2022 18:24:50 GMT -6
I remember back in 2010 or so, when the Slate VCC was touted far and wide as The Answer. I do know a few guys who still use it from time to time, but man, I haven't pulled it up in years at this point. I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. |
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Post by copperx on Nov 30, 2022 18:30:58 GMT -6
I had some conversations with him right after he retired. He had something of a... "spiritual awakening" and wanted to do something that was helpful to the world with the meditative binaural beats thing. This is hilarious. (With all due respect). |
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Post by robo on Nov 30, 2022 18:36:54 GMT -6
I remember back in 2010 or so, when the Slate VCC was touted far and wide as The Answer. I do know a few guys who still use it from time to time, but man, I haven't pulled it up in years at this point. I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. It’s better than McDSP’s Analog Channel or the URS stuff we were all using at the time. I still use VCC on occasion for some subtle color on a bus or something. The only thing that hasn’t aged well is the volume jump inherent in so much Slate stuff. Luckily, VMR has the trim module. |
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Post by seawell on Nov 30, 2022 18:44:37 GMT -6
I remember back in 2010 or so, when the Slate VCC was touted far and wide as The Answer. I do know a few guys who still use it from time to time, but man, I haven't pulled it up in years at this point. I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. I still like VCC as well. RC tube can really warm up a vocal(crank the drive all the way up) and the SSL or Neve(+3 drive) setting on the mix buss can add something nice as well. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Nov 30, 2022 19:36:25 GMT -6
I remember back in 2010 or so, when the Slate VCC was touted far and wide as The Answer. I do know a few guys who still use it from time to time, but man, I haven't pulled it up in years at this point. I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. It’s better than McDSP’s Analog Channel or the URS stuff we were all using at the time. I still use VCC on occasion for some subtle color on a bus or something. The only thing that hasn’t aged well is the volume jump inherent in so much Slate stuff. Luckily, VMR has the trim module. I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. I still like VCC as well. RC tube can really warm up a vocal(crank the drive all the way up) and the SSL or Neve(+3 drive) setting on the mix buss can add something nice as well. Thanks for this, guys - I'll have to try 'em out again and see what I think. It has been a long time. With my original post about it, I was thinking a lot about how many people back in 2010 said it was the missing link, and how if you just put it on every channel and the master, the song would suddenly become much easier to mix, etc., etc. At least IMO, that did not necessarily turn out to be true. But granted, that was at the leading edge of the "saturation is important" era of plugins. |
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Post by seawell on Nov 30, 2022 21:24:45 GMT -6
I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. It’s better than McDSP’s Analog Channel or the URS stuff we were all using at the time. I still use VCC on occasion for some subtle color on a bus or something. The only thing that hasn’t aged well is the volume jump inherent in so much Slate stuff. Luckily, VMR has the trim module. I still like VCC as well. RC tube can really warm up a vocal(crank the drive all the way up) and the SSL or Neve(+3 drive) setting on the mix buss can add something nice as well. Thanks for this, guys - I'll have to try 'em out again and see what I think. It has been a long time. With my original post about it, I was thinking a lot about how many people back in 2010 said it was the missing link, and how if you just put it on every channel and the master, the song would suddenly become much easier to mix, etc., etc. At least IMO, that did not necessarily turn out to be true. But granted, that was at the leading edge of the "saturation is important" era of plugins. You’re definitely right Mark, the hype was out of control! Tape and console emulation on every single channel to even get started mixing🤣 |
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 30, 2022 21:28:37 GMT -6
I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. It’s better than McDSP’s Analog Channel or the URS stuff we were all using at the time. I still use VCC on occasion for some subtle color on a bus or something. The only thing that hasn’t aged well is the volume jump inherent in so much Slate stuff. Luckily, VMR has the trim module. I still like VCC as well. RC tube can really warm up a vocal(crank the drive all the way up) and the SSL or Neve(+3 drive) setting on the mix buss can add something nice as well. Thanks for this, guys - I'll have to try 'em out again and see what I think. It has been a long time. With my original post about it, I was thinking a lot about how many people back in 2010 said it was the missing link, and how if you just put it on every channel and the master, the song would suddenly become much easier to mix, etc., etc. At least IMO, that did not necessarily turn out to be true. But granted, that was at the leading edge of the "saturation is important" era of plugins. For certain. Weird looking back on it now. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 30, 2022 21:30:48 GMT -6
Thanks for this, guys - I'll have to try 'em out again and see what I think. It has been a long time. With my original post about it, I was thinking a lot about how many people back in 2010 said it was the missing link, and how if you just put it on every channel and the master, the song would suddenly become much easier to mix, etc., etc. At least IMO, that did not necessarily turn out to be true. But granted, that was at the leading edge of the "saturation is important" era of plugins. You’re definitely right Mark, the hype was out of control! Tape and console emulation on every single channel to even get started mixing🤣 lol have done that! |
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Post by ml on Nov 30, 2022 21:50:12 GMT -6
Guarantee we will see people buying old computers to run vintage converters and software... Right now people are buying crappy 5-megapixel point and shoot cameras from the 2000s
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 21:52:04 GMT -6
I remember those days. I was new to recording. It's funny, I still use VCC inside VMR sometimes. Maybe I'm the only one using it anymore. It’s better than McDSP’s Analog Channel or the URS stuff we were all using at the time. I still use VCC on occasion for some subtle color on a bus or something. The only thing that hasn’t aged well is the volume jump inherent in so much Slate stuff. Luckily, VMR has the trim module. Wasn't the analog channel compressors pretending to be an input channel and tape? The tape one wasn't bad but has distortion near DC and could intermodulate the bass. it sounds pretty fat. You couldn't really drive them hot. The Variety of Sound stuff was even better than the Slate VCC. That was Windows only and only made the jump to 64-bit this year. Then U-he Satin came out and nothing really better has come out. ChowTape and TAIP are pretty gross and sound broken. The IK is ick. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 21:52:54 GMT -6
Guarantee we will see people buying old computers to run vintage converters and software... Right now people are buying crappy 5-megapixel point and shoot cameras from the 2000s Really? Where can I sell my old Canon one? |
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