Massenburg MDWDRC2 compressor plug in

Hmm $400: really ?

I realize its in sale,-$60, but do we really think plug ins arw wirth $400?

Have you tried the TDR Kotelnikov?
A great option for clean compression. 

There's a free version which is great but the paid version (still cheap) really makes it shine with its additional features and higher oversampling. 

Not sure I'd spend $400 on the Massenburg (don't really feel I need it at any price) but am curious to hear what others think of it. 

jaba I used it years ago and I remember liking it, but for whatever reason, TDR plugins are always kind of sluggish on my system. Bummer, because I do think Molot and Nova are really cool.

All of these $29 plug in sales have definitely spoiled us, but I haven't forgotten the $1,000 price tag that came with URS Channel Strip Pro and Waves IR-1 TDM versions for example!

I wonder if Paul Frindle had anything to do with this; he’s talked about creating a digital compressor algorithm based on Massenberg’s own hardware back in the Oxford days, but I believe it was made for GM’s exclusive use and never released commercially.

I’m sure this plugin will sound great and be very useful - hopefully it’s very similar to the amazing GML 8900.

But listen to Uncle Bob here kids ….

Don’t design a plugin GUI whilst under the influence of magic mushrooms!!

They’re free to charge whatever they like, but I bet they’d make a lot more money if the price was a bit more accessible.

Playing around with this now, trying it first on overly dynamic vocals sung against very dense arrangements (commonly known these days as simply 'music' 🤣). It is capable of extraordinary amounts of dynamic control (20-30db) without flinching, in terms of grit, distortion, or other gremlins that typically come from such dramatic gain reduction. But, it's not at ALL intuitive to set up and refine. It's much more time consuming than traditional compressors, at least for now. I suppose if I could really learn this thing, I'd move around it more quickly, but on the other hand it's so deep that it seems it will always require a lot of fiddling to set it just right, which limits its useful IMO to only the most challenging sources. That's not a criticism, just to be clear.

ETA: pretty frigging great on bass guitar. Wow!

ETA2: quickly falling in love. Still slow to set up, but it's generating some really insane results on busses that would require a lot of complex work on individual channels, so maybe the time spent is a wash overall.  Very cool on complex sources; really eye-opening. Kinda reminds me of Ursa Boost, but with TONS more control that gives an ability to reach really far into a source and make some very effective and impactful changes to time constants. Wish the damn thing didn't cost so much!

For flat-lining power:

Kotelnikov GE = Hiroshima bomb leaving a couple buildings still standing.
Unisum = fire bombing of Dresden. There are still a lot of buildings standing.

Honestly MDWDRC is the squishiest, Kotelnikov is the snappiest, Molot the hardest hitting if you want that, and Unisum is a little more stressed and explosive sounding. The thing with Unisum is the default settings are incredibly soft and mild but when you set it aggressively, it is neither as clean nor as well behaved as the Massenburg and Tokyo Dawn compressors.

Of those 3 I would be putting Echo Farm at the top of the list.  One of my secret weapons.  I keep buying delays, but none have the ease and sound of Echo Farm for me.

So Echo Farm WAS TDM, now it’s just native? No AAX DSP?