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Post by timcampbell on Jun 3, 2023 7:11:37 GMT -6
First little session with this mic yesterday. Only a very limited vocal part but wow I love this mic. Super nice top end and very creamy, the best word I can find. The only thing I don't get, other than for the original look, is the solution with the swivel mount on the cable. With a normal mic stand I always get a lot of LF from feet stomping. Are there stands that prevent this? I always order a normal shock mount for mics with this solution. Hopefully there are a fitting shock mount for this model too. Yes. Because this is a copy of the original the cable mount is the same as AKG came up with for the C12 annd the 251. If you check out old pics you'll see that many came up with after market solutions or hung them upside down from long booms overhead. |
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Post by gmichael on Jun 3, 2023 15:04:34 GMT -6
First little session with this mic yesterday. Only a very limited vocal part but wow I love this mic. Super nice top end and very creamy, the best word I can find. The only thing I don't get, other than for the original look, is the solution with the swivel mount on the cable. With a normal mic stand I always get a lot of LF from feet stomping. Are there stands that prevent this? I always order a normal shock mount for mics with this solution. Hopefully there are a fitting shock mount for this model too. The Latch Lake Bigfoot is pretty effective at reducing stand transmissions. On the more cost efficient side, the Tama Iron series stands are an excellent alternaitve with solid stanchions and really good clutching. I replaced all my K&M stands with the Tama's and use a BigFoot in my vocal booth. Another benefit from the Bigfoot is the reduced footprint and mounted wheels that make moving it around very simple. These are modern solutions that address stand transmission but there are also EU made stands like vintage Beyerdynamic stands that also have solid stanchions and pretty decent clutches. Lastly I'd look at shockmounts that can accomadate your microphone and it's cable that greatly reduce rumble transmission. There is a European based company I can't think of the company name atm, but they make very well designed mounts that focus on extreme stand rumble reduction, not cheap! I'll see if I can find their name and post it here
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Post by unit7 on Jun 3, 2023 15:16:57 GMT -6
First little session with this mic yesterday. Only a very limited vocal part but wow I love this mic. Super nice top end and very creamy, the best word I can find. The only thing I don't get, other than for the original look, is the solution with the swivel mount on the cable. With a normal mic stand I always get a lot of LF from feet stomping. Are there stands that prevent this? I always order a normal shock mount for mics with this solution. Hopefully there are a fitting shock mount for this model too. The Latch Lake Bigfoot is pretty effective at reducing stand transmissions. On the more cost efficient side, the Tama Iron series stands are an excellent alternaitve with solid stanchions and really good clutching. I replaced all my K&M stands with the Tama's and use a BigFoot in my vocal booth. Another benefit from the Bigfoot is the reduced footprint and mounted wheels that make moving it around very simple. These are modern solutions that address stand transmission but there are also EU made stands like vintage Beyerdynamic stands that also have solid stanchions and pretty decent clutches. Lastly I'd look at shockmounts that can accomadate your microphone and it's cable that greatly reduce rumble transmission. There is a European based company I can't think of the company name atm, but they make very well designed mounts that focus on extreme stand rumble reduction, not cheap! I'll see if I can find their name and post it here
Hey, thanks for the input and the tip! I believe I know the company that make (made) shockmounts and neither I remember the name. I believe it's the same company that made mounts for Neumann, but they're out of business. I got two of their shock mounts for my Flea 49s and no they weren't cheap. I've asked Ivan @ Flea about recommended mounts and of course a new cable. Also googled a bit and found a 251 mount from Peluso, so this will be solved. Thx again! |
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Post by timcampbell on Jun 3, 2023 15:20:09 GMT -6
Well there is the Rycote InVision USM
And Peluso offers this one:
Telefunken offers this one:
There is also the Aston Swift
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Post by gmichael on Jun 3, 2023 15:42:22 GMT -6
Ah, I see. Too bad they are out of business.
You are in Sweden so maybe give Bo a ring and see if he will sell you one of his 251 mounts.
They are creme coloured and that might not match up with that stunning pearl colour FleA boldly chose to use. I'm a huge FleA fan and just based on the look of their 251, I'm drooling over just how beautiful the aesthetic is.
Looks are really important to me, especially if we are talking about a microphone that will primarily be put in front of singers.
Hands down the FleA GA251 and TF251 are the most beautiful replicas, but the FleA is off in it's own class and league.
I would absolutely kiss the FleA251 open mouth and lick it's beautiful body, I think metaphorically speaking, maybe literally..lol
Might be the sexist microphone EVER made by anyone ever.
So gorgeous that FleA251.
Just call it love okay
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Post by unit7 on Jun 3, 2023 15:57:54 GMT -6
Ah, I see. Too bad they are out of business. You are in Sweden so maybe give Bo a ring and see if he will sell you one of his 251 mounts. They are creme coloured and that might not match up with that stunning pearl colour FleA boldly chose to use. I'm a huge FleA fan and just based on the look of their 251, I'm drooling over just how beautiful the aesthetic is. Looks are really important to me, especially if we are talking about a microphone that will primarily be put in front of singers. Hands down the FleA GA251 and TF251 are the most beautiful replicas, but the FleA is off in it's own class and league. I would absolutely kiss the FleA251 open mouth and lick it's beautiful body, I think metaphorically speaking, maybe literally..lol Might be the sexist microphone EVER made by anyone ever. So gorgeous that FleA251. Just call it love okay Oh yes, Bo of course! Thank You! |
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Post by christophert on Jun 3, 2023 16:13:20 GMT -6
First little session with this mic yesterday. Only a very limited vocal part but wow I love this mic. Super nice top end and very creamy, the best word I can find. The only thing I don't get, other than for the original look, is the solution with the swivel mount on the cable. With a normal mic stand I always get a lot of LF from feet stomping. Are there stands that prevent this? I always order a normal shock mount for mics with this solution. Hopefully there are a fitting shock mount for this model too. The Latch Lake Bigfoot is pretty effective at reducing stand transmissions. On the more cost efficient side, the Tama Iron series stands are an excellent alternaitve with solid stanchions and really good clutching. I replaced all my K&M stands with the Tama's and use a BigFoot in my vocal booth. Another benefit from the Bigfoot is the reduced footprint and mounted wheels that make moving it around very simple. These are modern solutions that address stand transmission but there are also EU made stands like vintage Beyerdynamic stands that also have solid stanchions and pretty decent clutches. Lastly I'd look at shockmounts that can accomadate your microphone and it's cable that greatly reduce rumble transmission. There is a European based company I can't think of the company name atm, but they make very well designed mounts that focus on extreme stand rumble reduction, not cheap! I'll see if I can find their name and post it here
I have four of the Latch Lake stands (2200 & 3300), and they all are so heavily connected to the floor, that even foot steps near them transmits LF through the stand if there is no shock mount on the mic.
My Lucas CS4 has no shockmount, it is mounted like a 251, and really needs a mic shock mount. I think my Heiserman 47T mounts will fit, and Heiserman sell them separately - very good quality too.
Nothing beats a quality shock mount .
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 3, 2023 16:55:09 GMT -6
I would just grab a Rycote mount and be done. They are really nice and I never feel like any mic is going to fall.
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Post by gmichael on Jun 3, 2023 16:56:55 GMT -6
Absolutely. A great stand without an effective shock mount is an incomplete set up. My LL's are on set atop gym mats and I have none or little transmission as a result.
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Post by ericn on Jun 3, 2023 18:47:11 GMT -6
I would just grab a Rycote mount and be done. They are really nice and I never feel like any mic is going to fall. Let’s not forget the Rycote’s also each fit a range of diameters so in most cases each covers more ground than a typical shockmount. The other thing is a lot of shock mounts are built with cheap pot metal and if you start asking about the actual properties of the suspension bands everyone looks at you like your speaking another language. |
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