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Post by chessparov on Jul 21, 2023 13:37:47 GMT -6
Might be a good time to bump, with the passing of the incomparable Tony Bennett.
IIRC his first hits were on the 49...
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Post by cj on Jul 21, 2023 14:36:44 GMT -6
Might be a good time to bump, with the passing of the incomparable Tony Bennett. IIRC his first hits were on the 49... Chris
Lost a great legend for sure!
His first hits may have been on a 49 but I was surprise to learn his go to mic (at least in his later career) was an AT4047. Another good mic that doesn't seemed to get talked about all that much.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 21, 2023 16:07:22 GMT -6
It's a miss on me, compared to the more conventiional 47 FET style mics. (I like the AT4050 and 4060) My Warm 47Jr. even more so though!  |
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Post by ericn on Jul 21, 2023 16:22:33 GMT -6
Might be a good time to bump, with the passing of the incomparable Tony Bennett. IIRC his first hits were on the 49... Chris Yeah, I was always told Tony was one of those guys who really didn’t have a mic preference, he trusted the AE to put something up that would work. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 24, 2023 10:19:18 GMT -6
Might be a good time to bump, with the passing of the incomparable Tony Bennett. IIRC his first hits were on the 49... Chris Yeah, I was always told Tony was one of those guys who really didn’t have a mic preference, he trusted the AE to put something up that would work. Would he sound best on an M49v or a Heiserman H251 elam? He wouldn't sound bad on anything! |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 24, 2023 19:07:58 GMT -6
Not even on...
The second time around!
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Post by vocals07 on Oct 10, 2023 22:39:59 GMT -6
Doug - I don't like the way it sounds in STEREO. Got a mic/placement for that? Fun fact: It's not actually stereo. It's a psycho-acoustic pseudo-stereo effect. I had a Flea 49, wasn’t impressed at all I also had a Beesneez B49, that sounded a little better using the same tube as the Flea. To me, the flea was compressed in way too dark the best 49 I’ve had so far was an RMS 49 I had Robert Sestilli the owner build me one around a Phaedrus 7012 now although the Phaedrus has similar tones to the AC 701 it lacks a little bit of that richness to me I would not spend $8000 on a Neumann M 49 re-issue because that tube is not gonna be the same as what it used to be just my opinion but if you’re going to use a 6S6B tube you might as well get a flea for cheaper or a Beesneez b49. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 11, 2023 7:48:30 GMT -6
Fun fact: It's not actually stereo. It's a psycho-acoustic pseudo-stereo effect. I had a Flea 49, wasn’t impressed at all I also had a Beesneez B49, that sounded a little better using the same tube as the Flea. To me, the flea was compressed in way too dark the best 49 I’ve had so far was an RMS 49 I had Robert Sestilli the owner build me one around a Phaedrus 7012 now although the Phaedrus has similar tones to the AC 701 it lacks a little bit of that richness to me I would not spend $8000 on a Neumann M 49 re-issue because that tube is not gonna be the same as what it used to be just my opinion but if you’re going to use a 6S6B tube you might as well get a flea for cheaper or a Beesneez b49. If it weren't a Neumann M49V, I would go straight to a B-M49 from mics . . . but also, our friend Carlos Serrano is working on something. |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 11, 2023 8:32:00 GMT -6
A microphone?
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Post by Ward on Oct 11, 2023 11:32:48 GMT -6
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 12, 2023 19:13:24 GMT -6
Fun fact: It's not actually stereo. It's a psycho-acoustic pseudo-stereo effect. I had a Flea 49, wasn’t impressed at all I also had a Beesneez B49, that sounded a little better using the same tube as the Flea. To me, the flea was compressed in way too dark the best 49 I’ve had so far was an RMS 49 I had Robert Sestilli the owner build me one around a Phaedrus 7012 now although the Phaedrus has similar tones to the AC 701 it lacks a little bit of that richness to me I would not spend $8000 on a Neumann M 49 re-issue because that tube is not gonna be the same as what it used to be just my opinion but if you’re going to use a 6S6B tube you might as well get a flea for cheaper or a Beesneez b49. Your assessment of the FleA 49 is why I went with their F47 capsule in mine. It’s much closer to the way I wanted the mic to sound. I’d love to put Ben’s BM49 up next to my FleA’s. I’d still probably want his K47 capsule in it though. I really like that style capsule in a 49. I wish I had gotten a chance to go back to Barber Shop studios to hear my FleA 49 next to their M49C. That mic has magic. Still want to get in front of the M49V at some point. I don’t have the cash for a purchase like that though. Not at this moment anyway. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 12, 2023 19:25:41 GMT -6
I had a Flea 49, wasn’t impressed at all I also had a Beesneez B49, that sounded a little better using the same tube as the Flea. To me, the flea was compressed in way too dark the best 49 I’ve had so far was an RMS 49 I had Robert Sestilli the owner build me one around a Phaedrus 7012 now although the Phaedrus has similar tones to the AC 701 it lacks a little bit of that richness to me I would not spend $8000 on a Neumann M 49 re-issue because that tube is not gonna be the same as what it used to be just my opinion but if you’re going to use a 6S6B tube you might as well get a flea for cheaper or a Beesneez b49. Your assessment of the FleA 49 is why I went with their F47 capsule in mine. It’s much closer to the way I wanted the mic to sound. I’d love to put Ben’s BM49 up next to my FleA’s. I’d still probably want his K47 capsule in it though. I really like that style capsule in a 49. I wish I had gotten a chance to go back to Barber Shop studios to hear my FleA 49 next to their M49C. That mic has magic. Still want to get in front of the M49V at some point. I don’t have the cash for a purchase like that though. Not at this moment anyway. You do't want to do that. If you put your Flea up against Ben's mic, you'd sell the flea and buy at least one BN if not a pair. paulcheeba isn't lying. They really are that good. Just talk to mics. We owe him that much |
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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 12, 2023 20:14:09 GMT -6
Your assessment of the FleA 49 is why I went with their F47 capsule in mine. It’s much closer to the way I wanted the mic to sound. I’d love to put Ben’s BM49 up next to my FleA’s. I’d still probably want his K47 capsule in it though. I really like that style capsule in a 49. I wish I had gotten a chance to go back to Barber Shop studios to hear my FleA 49 next to their M49C. That mic has magic. Still want to get in front of the M49V at some point. I don’t have the cash for a purchase like that though. Not at this moment anyway. You do't want to do that. If you put your Flea up against Ben's mic, you'd sell the flea and buy at least one BN if not a pair. paulcheeba isn't lying. They really are that good. Just talk to mics . We owe him that much Once I’m in the new place I have a feeling Ben and I will have a few conversations. |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 12, 2023 23:52:25 GMT -6
Wishing you a smooth transition.
Chris
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Post by paulcheeba on Oct 13, 2023 17:25:39 GMT -6
The F7 is possibly the worst capsule I have heard. So muffled and dense. The F47 is a little more open but mics capsules are in a different league. Seriously I’ve never heard a good CK12 until I heard Ben’s and sided by side with a C12a and they could replace each other. According to Klaus they are the most valuable and rare of the CK12’s. I don’t know his magic secret other than he does it with love and courage. I’m seriously impressed. |
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Post by drbill on Oct 13, 2023 18:50:06 GMT -6
Ben mentioned to me that his 12A was an aluminum diaphragm. And a little more "rigid" on the bottom than his long body 12 - and due to that, the 12 has a little more proximity. Just some more information.
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Post by paulcheeba on Oct 13, 2023 22:31:06 GMT -6
Ben mentioned to me that his 12A was an aluminum diaphragm. And a little more "rigid" on the bottom than his long body 12 - and due to that, the 12 has a little more proximity. Just some more information. I wasn’t sure I was allowed to share that detail but it really makes a difference compared to weaker CK12’s that need pop shields as a matter of course. They don’t take plosives like Ben’s design. They sound better to me, I was gonna use OG AKG’s for a couple of builds but Ben’s have the smooth top end and decay that make them a better choice. I’m a big fan of his 47 caps too. They opened up my Fleas and gave them a new life. I have some 67’s I haven’t used yet but I might put them into Brauner VM1’s if the brass ones don’t match. |
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Post by lyons on Oct 26, 2023 17:48:13 GMT -6
Ben mentioned to me that his 12A was an aluminum diaphragm. And a little more "rigid" on the bottom than his long body 12 - and due to that, the 12 has a little more proximity. Just some more information. I wasn’t sure I was allowed to share that detail but it really makes a difference compared to weaker CK12’s that need pop shields as a matter of course. They don’t take plosives like Ben’s design. They sound better to me, I was gonna use OG AKG’s for a couple of builds but Ben’s have the smooth top end and decay that make them a better choice. I’m a big fan of his 47 caps too. They opened up my Fleas and gave them a new life. I have some 67’s I haven’t used yet but I might put them into Brauner VM1’s if the brass ones don’t match. Hi Paul, do you think bens c12a tube microphone could take the place of a c12 or even, dare I say, a 251 for vocals. I know Ben also has a 251 (tribute 2). Seriously considering beeznees to fit this role for me. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 26, 2023 17:52:29 GMT -6
I wasn’t sure I was allowed to share that detail but it really makes a difference compared to weaker CK12’s that need pop shields as a matter of course. They don’t take plosives like Ben’s design. They sound better to me, I was gonna use OG AKG’s for a couple of builds but Ben’s have the smooth top end and decay that make them a better choice. I’m a big fan of his 47 caps too. They opened up my Fleas and gave them a new life. I have some 67’s I haven’t used yet but I might put them into Brauner VM1’s if the brass ones don’t match. Hi Paul, do you think bens c12a tube microphone could take the place of a c12 or even, dare I say, a 251 for vocals. I know Ben also has a 251 (tribute 2). Seriously considering beeznees to fit this role for me. Not Paul, but if your looking at how close you can get to a 251 without the expense Talk to Ben, he is very straightforward about this kind of stuff and might have a solution that most of us wouldn’t even consider. |
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Post by lyons on Oct 26, 2023 18:03:20 GMT -6
Hi Paul, do you think bens c12a tube microphone could take the place of a c12 or even, dare I say, a 251 for vocals. I know Ben also has a 251 (tribute 2). Seriously considering beeznees to fit this role for me. Not Paul, but if your looking at how close you can get to a 251 without the expense Talk to Ben, he is very straightforward about this kind of stuff and might have a solution that most of us wouldn’t even consider. Thanks Eric for replying! With a vintage 251 I don’t want to deal with what I suspect might be reliability issues - and of course (!) the 30k price tag seems unnecessary when, from what I can see, I can get close enough with one of the various clones. I’ll heed your advice and get in touch; I just wanted to see what feedback there was so far as I’m not familiar with beeznees’ line. Thanks again |
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Post by paulcheeba on Oct 26, 2023 19:33:01 GMT -6
I wasn’t sure I was allowed to share that detail but it really makes a difference compared to weaker CK12’s that need pop shields as a matter of course. They don’t take plosives like Ben’s design. They sound better to me, I was gonna use OG AKG’s for a couple of builds but Ben’s have the smooth top end and decay that make them a better choice. I’m a big fan of his 47 caps too. They opened up my Fleas and gave them a new life. I have some 67’s I haven’t used yet but I might put them into Brauner VM1’s if the brass ones don’t match. Hi Paul, do you think bens c12a tube microphone could take the place of a c12 or even, dare I say, a 251 for vocals. I know Ben also has a 251 (tribute 2). Seriously considering beeznees to fit this role for me. Yes it is a marvellous mic! Blew my AKG’s away and they’re original. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 27, 2023 3:04:00 GMT -6
Speaking of other mikes, stam posted a pic of a custom one off 49, I responded saying he should do a production run !
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Post by ab101 on Nov 25, 2023 21:50:09 GMT -6
Sorry if I missed it above, but does anyone here actually have Ben's BM49 and have any comments?
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Post by chessparov on Nov 25, 2023 23:53:11 GMT -6
Manny Nieto recorded with one in his studio. And told me about how much he loved it. More than once.  Chris |
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Post by paulcheeba on Nov 26, 2023 4:23:46 GMT -6
Hi Paul, do you think bens c12a tube microphone could take the place of a c12 or even, dare I say, a 251 for vocals. I know Ben also has a 251 (tribute 2). Seriously considering beeznees to fit this role for me. Not Paul, but if your looking at how close you can get to a 251 without the expense Talk to Ben, he is very straightforward about this kind of stuff and might have a solution that most of us wouldn’t even consider. We just built the most incredible sounding 251’s with Ben’s capsules for about $800 each. Including GE 5* tubes. Group DIY have very simple instructions. |
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