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Post by ab101 on Jul 27, 2022 14:05:22 GMT -6
Could it be an EF86? I chatted with Klaus briefly, years ago, about doing a DIY build inspired by an M49. Klaus hated the idea (haha). But he suggested that, if I did do it, to use a tube like an EF86, that was worthy of being in a mic. The ef86 is not a subminiature tube unfortunately! |
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Post by Chad on Jul 27, 2022 15:50:49 GMT -6
Could it be an EF86? I chatted with Klaus briefly, years ago, about doing a DIY build inspired by an M49. Klaus hated the idea (haha). But he suggested that, if I did do it, to use a tube like an EF86, that was worthy of being in a mic. I can't even envision enough room in that body for an M49-esque circuit along with an EF86 tube, but interesting thought. |
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Post by tkaitkai on Jul 27, 2022 18:09:05 GMT -6
The tube is a subminiature tube and according the Neumann representative last night it’s “a tube used in another one of our current microphones”…which could only be what’s in the M149/M150 I believe If it’s a 6111 as in the M149, I’ll be genuinely surprised. That was always one of the main complaints people had about that mic. It’s a $5 or $10 tube IIRC. Of course, I still think the M149 sounds phenomenal, but I definitely hated that the tube was soldered in place. Not to mention it’d run you $400 if you ever needed a replacement from Neumann. Hopefully that won’t be the case with this one! |
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Post by Hudsonic on Jul 27, 2022 19:20:39 GMT -6
Tube mic guru, the late Tim de Paravicini, praised and used the 6111 tube. He designed the QUAD 24P phono amplifier to use the 6111. In fact he uses 4 of those tubes in the QUAD. It sounds really smooth and rich.
De Paravicini was probably the world's #1 tube expert for the last 40 years.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 27, 2022 20:05:02 GMT -6
Hmm.. Sounds good enough for my MXL V69 then. (Sorry still not for sale guys)  Chris |
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Post by Hudsonic on Jul 29, 2022 8:34:38 GMT -6
I've soured on the mic. Was offered a place in line but declined. The reason I'm not moving on it is because of the tube, the marketing, the fact that it's not a real M49.
There are other new tube mics coming this fall that are built with love, are very authentic in build and in lineage--have the soul of a classic, and are unique.
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Post by ericn on Jul 29, 2022 10:05:15 GMT -6
Tube mic guru, the late Tim de Paravicini, praised and used the 6111 tube. He designed the QUAD 24P phono amplifier to use the 6111. In fact he uses 4 of those tubes in the QUAD. It sounds really smooth and rich. De Paravicini was probably the world's #1 tube expert for the last 40 years. I have to second that opinion, I have never heard a single piece Tim designed that didn’t make you go “ wow” think of Tim’s designs a cut above David Manley without the need for a fire extinguisher near by. |
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Post by drbill on Jul 29, 2022 10:31:42 GMT -6
Tube mic guru, the late Tim de Paravicini, praised and used the 6111 tube. He designed the QUAD 24P phono amplifier to use the 6111. In fact he uses 4 of those tubes in the QUAD. It sounds really smooth and rich. De Paravicini was probably the world's #1 tube expert for the last 40 years. I have to second that opinion, I have never heard a single piece Tim designed that didn’t make you go “ wow” think of Tim’s designs a cut above David Manley without the need for a fire extinguisher near by. Ouch!! Heh heh heh..... I'm going to have to go with Eric on this one. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 29, 2022 10:37:19 GMT -6
I have to second that opinion, I have never heard a single piece Tim designed that didn’t make you go “ wow” think of Tim’s designs a cut above David Manley without the need for a fire extinguisher near by. Ouch!! Heh heh heh..... I'm going to have to go with Eric on this one. w Is that based on my audio expertise or my experience with flames🤔 |
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Post by drbill on Jul 29, 2022 11:41:53 GMT -6
Ouch!! Heh heh heh..... I'm going to have to go with Eric on this one. w Is that based on my audio expertise or my experience with flames🤔 Yes!! |
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Post by mattcollen on Jul 29, 2022 19:29:26 GMT -6
I've soured on the mic. Was offered a place in line but declined. The reason I'm not moving on it is because of the tube, the marketing, the fact that it's not a real M49.
There are other new tube mics coming this fall that are built with love, are very authentic in build and in lineage--have the soul of a classic, and are unique.
Do you know what tube Neumann is using in the new one? What makes it a fake or “not a real” Neumann M49 to you? I am genuinely curious. As we know the originals had two different tube types, transformer changes, and capsule changes. Cheers, Matt |
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Post by aremos on Jul 29, 2022 21:58:45 GMT -6
I've soured on the mic. Was offered a place in line but declined. The reason I'm not moving on it is because of the tube, the marketing, the fact that it's not a real M49.
There are other new tube mics coming this fall that are built with love, are very authentic in build and in lineage--have the soul of a classic, and are unique.
Aren't you the guy that pushes the FleA stuff - all over the internet?
I'm sure it's a very good mic but does NOT have a Neumann capsule, does NOT have an AC701, does NOT have a Neumann transformer, etc. And you state that the new Neumann M49 is "not a real M49"?
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Post by mattcollen on Jul 29, 2022 23:44:23 GMT -6
I've soured on the mic. Was offered a place in line but declined. The reason I'm not moving on it is because of the tube, the marketing, the fact that it's not a real M49.
There are other new tube mics coming this fall that are built with love, are very authentic in build and in lineage--have the soul of a classic, and are unique.
Aren't you the guy that pushes the FleA stuff - all over the internet?
I'm sure it's a very good mic but does NOT have a Neumann capsule, does NOT have an AC701, does NOT have a Neumann transformer, etc. And you state that the new Neumann M49 is "not a real M49"?
That’s what I am trying to understand too. Everything but the tube (maybe) should be a 1:1 version of an M49. |
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Post by hadaja on Jul 30, 2022 6:07:47 GMT -6
A guy on instagram has posted a pocture of the m49v. Is this the new mic that neumann is putting out? Sorry i am late to the party.
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Post by mattcollen on Jul 30, 2022 7:27:17 GMT -6
A guy on instagram has posted a pocture of the m49v. Is this the new mic that neumann is putting out? Sorry i am late to the party. Yes, they are reissuing the m49. |
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Post by Chad on Jul 30, 2022 10:06:25 GMT -6
A guy on instagram has posted a pocture of the m49v. Is this the new mic that neumann is putting out? Sorry i am late to the party. Dale, I ordered you one as a surprise. You’ll be getting it ASAP* when they ship (*sometime in 2025). ;-) |
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Post by bdw42 on Jul 30, 2022 10:24:26 GMT -6
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Post by drbill on Jul 30, 2022 10:46:49 GMT -6
It looks better IN the yoke than it does stand alone.
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Post by ericn on Jul 30, 2022 11:53:10 GMT -6
That case would end up in a closet and the mic would find a very protective home in a Pelican, Seahorse or ATA!
I get the retro vibe and all and I really can’t complain because all my mics live in matching Seahorses.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 30, 2022 12:41:58 GMT -6
Billy Ocean can't wait to buy your collection. But I just can't fathom why. His days of the High C's are long gone. Chris |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 30, 2022 13:39:57 GMT -6
And to think...I thought my mic lust was satiated after getting a Soyuz 017 Tube...
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Post by ericn on Jul 30, 2022 13:44:09 GMT -6
And to think...I thought my mic lust was satiated after getting a Soyuz 017 Tube... It’s like going to the Victoria secret fashion is that lust ever really satisfied? Of course in this case no Jeffery Epstein. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2022 14:18:45 GMT -6
And to think...I thought my mic lust was satiated after getting a Soyuz 017 Tube... I think I'm the odd one out around here sometimes, I appreciate a good sounding mic but I'd never drop nearly $10K on one (forget the ELAM for a second, that was an experiment). Too many sub $750.00 mic's that'll do a great job never mind in the $2 - 5K bracket.. Monitors and room treatment? I'd drop double the amount of the M49 without batting an eye lid.
A condenser IME is only as good as your room and the end result is dictated by what you can hear. Or something like that..
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 30, 2022 14:26:27 GMT -6
And to think...I thought my mic lust was satiated after getting a Soyuz 017 Tube... I think I'm the odd one out around here sometimes, I appreciate a good sounding mic but I'd never drop nearly $10K on one (forget the ELAM for a second, that was an experiment). Too many sub $750.00 mic's that'll do a great job never mind in the $2 - 5K bracket.. Monitors and room treatment? I'd drop double the amount of the M49 without batting an eye lid. A condenser IME is only as good as your room and the end result is dictated by what you can hear. Or something like that..
Well,I wouldn’t either. |
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Post by bdw42 on Jul 30, 2022 14:33:00 GMT -6
Klaus just posted on the other site some very positive impressions of a near ready M49V prototype Neumann sent him in April to review. He called the finish "fit and superb", and every circuit detail copied from the original to a fault, with Neumann even implementing a few of his suggestions. He says he'll post a more detailed review when he gets the released version, but he ultimately called the execution of the prototype at least on par (if not better) than the U67 RI and seems encouraged by the new management.
Very encouraging. Can't wait for the official details hopefully on Monday.
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