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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 25, 2022 16:33:48 GMT -6
Was just curious.
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Post by sirthought on Mar 25, 2022 23:56:32 GMT -6
Intro price was $600. I think the regular price will be much more looking at the full package now. |
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Post by lando on Mar 26, 2022 10:06:00 GMT -6
Intro price was $600. I think the regular price will be much more looking at the full package now. I definitely should have preordered these with both capsules.  Hope they are amazing and still reasonably cheap! |
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Post by Quint on Aug 2, 2022 13:22:47 GMT -6
Based on recent emails, it looks like the 84s are finally going to ship this month. So I'll look forward to receiving my pair.
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Post by rpc on Aug 16, 2022 17:01:54 GMT -6
They've arrived!
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Post by recordingengineer on Aug 16, 2022 17:18:19 GMT -6
My pair arrive tomorrow. Will be a couple weeks before I get a chance to try em though.
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Post by rob61 on Aug 16, 2022 17:31:53 GMT -6
Mine arrived today.
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Post by seawell on Aug 17, 2022 2:16:30 GMT -6
Here is my review of the Serrano 84. I hope you guys enjoy!
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 17, 2022 6:24:09 GMT -6
Another solid demo review: well done.
What’s not to like? I have had joli modded and warm 84s.
These sound balanced , accurate, with good body and detail: well done.
In terms of their low end capture, I thought kick in your mix for this track was perfect.
Sounds like a winner to me !
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Post by mcirish on Aug 17, 2022 8:49:53 GMT -6
I'd really like someone to do some extra testing on these. I'm wondering what the off-axis sound is like? Is it similar to a KM84, which is a pretty wide cardioid? I'd pick up a pair but I'm a little hesitant as I already built the Bonsai quasi-km84. Not crazy about the capsule on that one. I much prefer the Oktava MC-012 and the Beyerdynamic MC930. The Oktava sounds very close to a KM84 and I like it even better on some sources. But... there's always room for another good set of mics.
How is the noise level on these?
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Post by vintagetubelug on Aug 17, 2022 10:27:00 GMT -6
Mine should arrive soon and I am planning to do a comparison between the Serranos and my set of KM84s on drum OHs.
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Post by Omicron9 on Aug 17, 2022 10:38:08 GMT -6
seawell, Thank you for the review/demo. Nicely done. I like the top end on the various caps; however, to me, they all seem a little bass-shy. Or maybe that's just how I'm hearing it. Like mcirish, I'm also curious about the self-noise. Thanks again, seawell. -09
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Post by drbill on Aug 17, 2022 10:53:50 GMT -6
to me, they all seem a little bass-shy. I heard it the same way. They are no doubt nice mics that many studio's will make killer music with. If however, a manufacturer (of which there are several) decides to brand them with the moniker of "84", the only real test I want to hear is up against a great pair of Neumann 84's. I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed that they look like MXL 603's though. LOL. Seems like every SDC mic coming out uses those bodies.... heh heh.  On the no-pad issue, I'd love to hear them up close and personal on a hard hitting snare drum. A favorite use for 84's for me, but I'm very reticent to ever put a real one there anymore due to replacement costs of a stray stick hit. Still - very nice review seawell . Appreciated. |
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Post by drbill on Aug 17, 2022 10:57:30 GMT -6
I much prefer the Oktava MC-012 Yup. IMO, those are the benchmark for KM84-alikes at this point. A little too much bottom, but that's easily rolled off, and depending on source, a tiny, tiny bit "harder" than KM84's. Usually it's easy to deal with by using a different preamp. Great mics all around, and crazy inexpensive for what you get. Are these still readily available at this point with the Soviet / Ukraine war though? |
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Post by Omicron9 on Aug 17, 2022 11:18:47 GMT -6
to me, they all seem a little bass-shy. I heard it the same way. They are no doubt nice mics that many studio's will make killer music with. If however, a manufacturer (of which there are several) decides to brand them with the moniker of "84", the only real test I want to hear is up against a great pair of Neumann 84's. I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed that they look like MXL 603's though. LOL. Seems like every SDC mic coming out uses those bodies.... heh heh. On the no-pad issue, I'd love to hear them up close and personal on a hard hitting snare drum. A favorite use for 84's for me, but I'm very reticent to ever put a real one there anymore due to replacement costs of a stray stick hit. Still - very nice review seawell . Appreciated. , I did like that the top end was not at all harsh, but the light bass response renders them unusable for me, sadly. I've never used KM-84s (but do like 184s) (ducking under the couch), and I am not really all that interested in how closely Serrano's 84 is to the Neumann. But I am always on the lookout for a great pair of SDCs and had high hopes for these. I'm sure they'll be great tools for anyone else, and I appreciate Serrano's efforts in making these, and seawell's review/demo. Kindly, -09 |
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Post by drumsound on Aug 17, 2022 11:36:26 GMT -6
Here is my review of the Serrano 84. I hope you guys enjoy! Really great video. Thanks. |
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Post by drumsound on Aug 17, 2022 11:42:31 GMT -6
I much prefer the Oktava MC-012 Yup. IMO, those are the benchmark for KM84-alikes at this point. A little too much bottom, but that's easily rolled off, and depending on source, a tiny, tiny bit "harder" than KM84's. Usually it's easy to deal with by using a different preamp. Great mics all around, and crazy inexpensive for what you get. Are these still readily available at this point with the Soviet / Ukraine war though? I think the MC-012s really are wonderful mics. The one time I used a real 84 was on acoustic guitar and it sounded very similar to my MC-012. I rarely use anything other than my Octavas on overheads. I was doing some test recording with my new 24" BD the other day and I was able to get a killer sound with them and an e602II inside the BD. Looking at oktavausa.com they seem to have stock. |
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Post by seawell on Aug 17, 2022 11:56:49 GMT -6
Regarding low end, keep in mind that everything was recorded in the 18-24 inch mic placement range(to match the sound of the original song.) I could do some stuff with closer placement/more low end. It’s going to be a few days though, maybe someone else that got their’s will post by then 👍🏻
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 17, 2022 12:13:22 GMT -6
I think they're very good sounding mics. They do capture some of the 84's vibe, but there's a little something the Neumann's do that doesn't seem to be possible to duplicate. Perhaps it the capsule's sound.
I would also compare these to the Soyuz 0-13 FET if I could, just to see.
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Post by plinker on Aug 17, 2022 12:25:18 GMT -6
While visiting the website, I saw that there is a new version of the 87 available. Apparently, it has a "better" capsule and transformer -- and price.
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Post by cserrano on Aug 17, 2022 14:09:10 GMT -6
Greetings,
I'm very grateful for Seawell's awesome review! I think it gives people a good overview of the Serrano 84 and its features, as well as its sound. I will probably soon chime in on some of the questions but will wait a week or so until I get sense of any collective curiosity.
Warmly,
Carlos
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Post by cserrano on Aug 17, 2022 14:31:59 GMT -6
While visiting the website, I saw that there is a new version of the 87 available. Apparently, it has a "better" capsule and transformer -- and price. Just to clarify, while there is now an updated version of the Serrano 87, I would not say that it has a "better" capsule and transformer. To be transparent, I was having some issues with quality control of the previous capsule and at times would even have audition up to 4 capsules before finding one that sounded right. That was too much! The Serrano 87 now uses a capsule that has a much better quality control process. Regarding the transformer now made by Cinemag, one of the reasons in switching to Cinemag has to do with them making pinout (instead of wired) versions of transformers, which makes assembling a lot easier. I would not say that is it "better" sound quality than the previous but the earlier transformer has a little bit less low end than the new Cinemag. The quality of the older one was also excellent, just like the new one. I should also mention that I've been using this capsule and transformer since last December and they are present in Seawell's review of the Serrano 87. Here is the bottom line. Since I had various configurations that differed slightly, I noticed it caused some people confusion, understandably. With the first batch of 10 that were made with a platinum membrane, to other ones that were slightly brighter or darker, to even more that started to use a new capsule, I decided it would be helpful to standardize a new version and name it the Serrano Vintage 87. I would say it is natural that I learned over that past couple of years an exact configuration, with many factors in mind, of what the final version should be. From this point forward I will be making them all to the same configuration. Also, for owners of older versions of the Serrano 87, if they wish I am willing to update theirs to this new standard, at no profit to me. Carlos |
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Aug 17, 2022 23:04:34 GMT -6
Thought seawell Josh's review was excellent and man, he got a lot of great sound out of the mics on the sources. |
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Post by seawell on Aug 17, 2022 23:40:26 GMT -6
Thought seawell Josh's review was excellent and man, he got a lot of great sound out of the mics on the sources. Thank you, I really appreciate that 👊🏼 |
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Post by vintagetubelug on Aug 18, 2022 17:41:37 GMT -6
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Hope they are amazing and still reasonably cheap!
