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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 3, 2019 14:57:31 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jun 3, 2019 15:01:34 GMT -6
Starts at 6K$ for the base model which has 32GB RAM, 8core Xeon, 580X graphics, 256GB SSD, (AKA: about 1500$ worth of PC).
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 3, 2019 15:04:59 GMT -6
Starts at 6K$ for the base model which has 32GB RAM, 8core Xeon, 580X graphics, 256GB SSD, (AKA: about 1500$ worth of PC). yeah their pricing is just ridiculous
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Post by christopher on Jun 3, 2019 15:12:06 GMT -6
Is that with or without a 6k screen? If without, then that’s just a shame.
Other things to factor in a PC if doing a proper comparison: OS cost, power supply- don’t want to go cheap here... quiet yet proper cooling.. a nice case.. an excellent keyboard (again don’t go cheap).. the monitor mount.. the customer support.. and I also factor in the past longevity, macs seem to keep working as long as you want to run them. And the screen resolution/apps is made specifically to work with the OS, which for me has been tough with win10
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Post by ericn on Jun 3, 2019 15:15:44 GMT -6
Pretty, very cool but come on Apple a “PRO” needs to be rack mountable!
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Post by donr on Jun 3, 2019 15:18:13 GMT -6
Holy Cow! Head on, this one looks even more like a cheese grater! Kudos on the modular design. Bum about the price. Nice design tho.
Hope it's as quiet as the trashcan. Jonny Ive intimated it was quiet. Quiet is the trashcan's best feature.
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Post by jdc on Jun 3, 2019 15:36:34 GMT -6
Pretty, very cool but come on Apple a “PRO” needs to be rack mountable! They're releasing a rack mountable version as well
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Post by svart on Jun 3, 2019 15:45:19 GMT -6
Is that with or without a 6k screen? If without, then that’s just a shame. Other things to factor in a PC if doing a proper comparison: OS cost, power supply- don’t want to go cheap here... quiet yet proper cooling.. a nice case.. an excellent keyboard (again don’t go cheap).. the monitor mount.. the customer support.. and I also factor in the past longevity, macs seem to keep working as long as you want to run them. And the screen resolution/apps is made specifically to work with the OS, which for me has been tough with win10 The 6k screen is another 5k..
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Post by sirthought on Jun 3, 2019 15:59:54 GMT -6
this isn't grate, merely guoda. I think they bleu a good opportunity to reach more people who want modular Macs. The design is welcome, but the base specs for the price is crazy. And to christopher, I've tried to keep several Macs running as long as possible. It is my preferred OS, but I can't say it's been a better experience there compared to PCs I've owned for several years that have kept on running. At one past job as a designer I had to send a G4 back three times due to faulty parts. And don't get me started on my 2011 $3K MPB that's had the logic board replaced multiple times and it keeps dying after about 1.5 years.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 3, 2019 16:14:24 GMT -6
Is that with or without a 6k screen? If without, then that’s just a shame. Other things to factor in a PC if doing a proper comparison: OS cost, power supply- don’t want to go cheap here... quiet yet proper cooling.. a nice case.. an excellent keyboard (again don’t go cheap).. the monitor mount.. the customer support.. and I also factor in the past longevity, macs seem to keep working as long as you want to run them. And the screen resolution/apps is made specifically to work with the OS, which for me has been tough with win10 No screen... But im sure that they will last a long time. Im still using a 3,1 Cheese grater haha Really the issue is the OS and how long you can keep using that with the same hardware..which doesn't always work out. Pretty, very cool but come on Apple a “PRO” needs to be rack mountable! It'll be rack mountable.
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Post by christopher on Jun 3, 2019 16:25:52 GMT -6
this isn't grate, merely guoda. I think they bleu a good opportunity to reach more people who want modular Macs. The design is welcome, but the base specs for the price is crazy. And to christopher, I've tried to keep several Macs running as long as possible. It is my preferred OS, but I can't say it's been a better experience there compared to PCs I've owned for several years that have kept on running. At one past job as a designer I had to send a G4 back three times due to faulty parts. And don't get me started on my 2011 $3K MPB that's had the logic board replaced multiple times and it keeps dying after about 1.5 years. oh man, that’s too bad. Basically equal to my PC adventures. Though that last two PCs I built have been solid and working good. Our 2015 mbp is my favorite though, the retina and quietness, battery powered. Kids spilt my full drink on it a few months ago, so the keyboard buttons are a little sticky
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Post by christopher on Jun 3, 2019 16:26:36 GMT -6
Is that with or without a 6k screen? If without, then that’s just a shame. Other things to factor in a PC if doing a proper comparison: OS cost, power supply- don’t want to go cheap here... quiet yet proper cooling.. a nice case.. an excellent keyboard (again don’t go cheap).. the monitor mount.. the customer support.. and I also factor in the past longevity, macs seem to keep working as long as you want to run them. And the screen resolution/apps is made specifically to work with the OS, which for me has been tough with win10 The 6k screen is another 5k.. Oof!
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Post by christopher on Jun 3, 2019 16:29:31 GMT -6
I was imagining that price WITH retina screen... at that point, it’s way too much but possibly a drunken purchase. At 11k... 256 HD? Haha..
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jun 3, 2019 16:34:31 GMT -6
Starts at 6K$ for the base model which has 32GB RAM, 8core Xeon, 580X graphics, 256GB SSD, (AKA: about 1500$ worth of PC). The HP Z8 works out around the same price for similar specs. You can hackintosh for the same price as a PC anyway.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 3, 2019 17:05:25 GMT -6
That's the first thing I thought..."And you thought the old one looked like a cheese grater."
I'll never need anything that powerful.
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Post by sirthought on Jun 3, 2019 17:07:06 GMT -6
Now that you mention Hackintosh, I thought they had announced their plans to move away from Intel chips and manufacture their own in the plant that does all the Apple mobile chips. That was supposed to mean the end of Hackintosh since you wouldn't be able to buy that off the shelf part.
Maybe they new this crowd might not be ready for that change yet.
I've never worked on a Xeon processor so I'm not sure how much you feel from a processing standpoint. I'm always impressed when studios say they still use an old cheese grater.
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Post by svart on Jun 3, 2019 17:07:17 GMT -6
Starts at 6K$ for the base model which has 32GB RAM, 8core Xeon, 580X graphics, 256GB SSD, (AKA: about 1500$ worth of PC). The HP Z8 works out around the same price for similar specs. You can hackintosh for the same price as a PC anyway. And I can build one for 1500$..
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jun 3, 2019 17:23:20 GMT -6
The HP Z8 works out around the same price for similar specs. You can hackintosh for the same price as a PC anyway. And I can build one for 1500$.. My point wasn't that you can't build an equivalent computer for $1500. Its that Apples offerings aren't far off the PC world of workstations. I'm never going to shell out for the latest Mac Pro. I want to customize my specs and save about 80-90%. But some businesses will want to buy the new Mac Pro.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 3, 2019 18:33:17 GMT -6
+2 on the "looks like a cheese grater" initial reaction
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Post by 80hz on Jun 3, 2019 19:06:16 GMT -6
Insanely overpriced! I just built a brand new hackintosh with OS Mojave with specs that beat this base model, quadruple the hard drive size and double the RAM for less than half the price of this Mac. No idea where Apple is getting their hardware prices from, but all their silicon must be lined with gold plating! The worst part is other than the chassis and maybe the mobo - most of the internals are components you can source yourself! And if not there is probably a Mac OS equivalent you can look up.
without opening it up I don’t fully know exactly what components they have gone with, but if using the Xeon platform still, then it’s intel chips and likely intel motherboards. Easy to recreate an even more powerful machine at a fraction of the cost. I still think to avoid the hassles of the Bermuda ‘Update’ Triangle (looking at you protools), a windows machine is far more stable and better value in this day and age. But sourcing the same or similar components for a hack is very doable and you would save 60% on the cost of these rediculously overpriced machines!!
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Post by Guitar on Jun 3, 2019 19:11:07 GMT -6
After watching the promo video, it seems that these are really targeted at pro video people more than anything.
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Post by ericn on Jun 3, 2019 19:16:24 GMT -6
After watching the promo video, it seems that these are really targeted at pro video people more than anything. That is where the $$ is.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 3, 2019 19:17:55 GMT -6
After watching the promo video, it seems that these are really targeted at pro video people more than anything. That is where the $$ is. that is EXACTLY right
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 3, 2019 20:09:05 GMT -6
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 3, 2019 20:09:53 GMT -6
That's the first thing I thought..."And you thought the old one looked like a cheese grater." I'll never need anything that powerful. Famous last words.
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