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Post by EmRR on Jan 25, 2018 17:48:23 GMT -6
Why would they make it a limited edition? Because they can only come up with so many reliable tubes at this point, and they have to stock replacements for warranty/repairs too. Doesn't mean there wouldn't be another limited run later, but that'd be based on available tube stock more than anything.
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Post by ericn on Jan 25, 2018 18:09:57 GMT -6
Why would they make it a limited edition? Because they can only come up with so many reliable tubes at this point, and they have to stock replacements for warranty/repairs too. Doesn't mean there wouldn't be another limited run later, but that'd be based on available tube stock more than anything. Doug somebody needs to buy a replacement transformer and send it to their favorite transformer guru or figure out who the OEM is and what kind of bribe we have to offer up!😎 I'll split the cost of the first option
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Post by EmRR on Jan 25, 2018 19:16:36 GMT -6
I'm curious about the newer Cinemag replacement. It comes in two versions, one supposedly accurate response and phase to the original, another with improved response. There are data sheets with plots and specs, which would suggest a better chance of it being right than anyone else's. Not that it is, though. I don't know that it would retrofit an original mic, either.
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 25, 2018 20:59:21 GMT -6
I'm curious about the newer Cinemag replacement. It comes in two versions, one supposedly accurate response and phase to the original, another with improved response. There are data sheets with plots and specs, which would suggest a better chance of it being right than anyone else's. Not that it is, though. I don't know that it would retrofit an original mic, either. This is the saddest comment about the reissue yet. This and that the psu is different. So different transformer and different psu. We are getting into rocky territory here. I'm still betting that even if it's not identical (which it sounds like it is in fact not) if anyone can pull it off it would be them. There is also the chance that they improved it. However, that will be highly subjective and viciously debated.
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Post by spindrift on Jan 25, 2018 21:02:37 GMT -6
I'm curious about the newer Cinemag replacement. It comes in two versions, one supposedly accurate response and phase to the original, another with improved response. There are data sheets with plots and specs, which would suggest a better chance of it being right than anyone else's. Not that it is, though. I don't know that it would retrofit an original mic, either. This is the saddest comment about the reissue yet. This and that the psu is different. So different transformer and different psu. We are getting into rocky territory here. The most imporant and anticipated report is how that sucker sounds!
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Post by EmRR on Jan 25, 2018 21:09:42 GMT -6
I'm curious about the newer Cinemag replacement. It comes in two versions, one supposedly accurate response and phase to the original, another with improved response. There are data sheets with plots and specs, which would suggest a better chance of it being right than anyone else's. Not that it is, though. I don't know that it would retrofit an original mic, either. This is the saddest comment about the reissue yet. This and that the psu is different. So different transformer and different psu. We are getting into rocky territory here. I'm still betting that even if it's not identical (which it sounds like it is in fact not) if anyone can pull it off it would be them. There is also the chance that they improved it. However, that will be highly subjective and viciously debated. OK, think you are misreading me. Eric mentioned transformer research, and I mentioned the Cinemag. NOT what Neumann is using.
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 25, 2018 21:28:27 GMT -6
This is the saddest comment about the reissue yet. This and that the psu is different. So different transformer and different psu. We are getting into rocky territory here. I'm still betting that even if it's not identical (which it sounds like it is in fact not) if anyone can pull it off it would be them. There is also the chance that they improved it. However, that will be highly subjective and viciously debated. OK, think you are misreading me. Eric mentioned transformer research, and I mentioned the Cinemag. NOT what Neumann is using. I did misread that. I can sleep soundly then. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 25, 2018 22:05:24 GMT -6
Neumann says this is made to the original specs: they ought to know if they got it right !?
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Post by aremos on Jan 25, 2018 22:48:07 GMT -6
On the "67 style microphone" thread Prophetic Johnkenn stated:
On May 13, 2017 12:19:59 GMT -5 Johnkenn said: The end of the year might have a few surprises.
Of which I commented: Neumann coming out with another reissue ... 2nd reissue of the 67?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 25, 2018 23:31:30 GMT -6
Wish I had saved up
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Post by ragan on Jan 26, 2018 1:15:54 GMT -6
There's a fella on GS with a pair of the MaxMod 67s who's also ordered the new U67 and who's gonna shoot them out. Along with an m269c I believe. That will be fascinating. I'm not yet convinced that I'd prefer an original U67 to the MaxMod. But that's all subjective to the...Max.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 26, 2018 2:04:12 GMT -6
I have no way of knowing of coarse but I can’t help believe there will be differences in the sound of these mics as opposed to the originals. For one thing there is the “baked” factor of vintage mics that will not be present in any mic with brand new parts. Not saying that’s better or worse but it does make a difference in sonics.
And speaking to parts for the build, will they be sourced the same as when they were built 60 years ago? Doubtfully but again I have no way of knowing.
But the thing is, these new mics might actually sound better than the originals. 67’s typically sound right on brighter sources because they are slightly rolled off on top. I wonder if these will have that same sonic footprint?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 26, 2018 4:09:35 GMT -6
If you had the dough, it would be difficult not to buy, very little downside?
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 26, 2018 17:25:32 GMT -6
Just got off the phone with vk. Asked about the tube. Sales rep said it was a "new tube they developed and are calling an ef86, I'm sure it's going to upset a few people". I'm wondering how good his info is though beacause he also said it was a "microtube". The microtube statement doesn't jive with the photos posted on neumann's website. However there is no way to tell what the tube actually is as it's not labeled in the stock photo's. You can always put an nos in I suppose. Or who knows. Maybe it's just wonderful as it is.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 26, 2018 18:29:56 GMT -6
That's hilarious
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Post by aremos on Jan 26, 2018 19:18:45 GMT -6
Yes, hilarious but A lot of mental masterbation on all sides. Guess we can't WAIT to HEAR the results
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 26, 2018 19:20:26 GMT -6
Yes, hilarious but A lot of mental masterbation on all sides. Guess we can't WAIT to HEAR the results No one here seems upset about it...
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Post by aremos on Jan 26, 2018 19:25:13 GMT -6
Didn't mean it that way! It's funny that we're talking about the tube (& the way we're talking about it)... & if it's micro, but if it isn't, which it isn't, is it a real EF86 .... Or is it a newly manufactured EF86 ... & not a NOS,etc.
Hey I'm also giddy about the whole thing! And love talking about it ... Like children with the latest toy coming out ... & when can Santa get a hold of it & into our hands
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 26, 2018 19:43:20 GMT -6
I would LOVE to have one. I mean, Love. But I ain’t paying $7000 for it.
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 26, 2018 20:07:47 GMT -6
it is hilarious. My post sounds ridiculous reading it now too. Sales reps there can be ridiculous. The fact that he said it was a microtube and that it's not an ef86... but it is... dude has no info and is just blabbing. He actually conjured "German mindgames" when describing Neumann's "marketing tactics" to explain his lack of solid information. A simple "we don't know yet" would work.
Thought I'd share and add to the flurry
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 26, 2018 20:30:53 GMT -6
it is hilarious. My post sounds ridiculous reading it now too. Sales reps there can be ridiculous. The fact that he said it was a microtube and that it's not an ef86... but it is... dude has no info and is just blabbing. He actually conjured "German mindgames" when describing Neumann's "marketing tactics" to explain his lack of solid information. A simple "we don't know yet" would work. Thought I'd share and add to the flurry Wonder if his commission is better on a Flea or something. Not disparaging any company here, just seems funny for a sales guy to put down a product. I sold cars for a little bit at a Honda dealer and I put a chick in a junky used Saturn once. 😂😂
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Post by jakeharris on Jan 26, 2018 21:13:20 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 26, 2018 21:24:40 GMT -6
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 26, 2018 21:36:52 GMT -6
Bam. Looks identical. Nice work.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 26, 2018 22:02:36 GMT -6
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