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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2018 12:40:14 GMT -6
Don’t think we will ever see a 47 from them because of the tube.
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Post by drbill on Jan 10, 2018 12:44:52 GMT -6
My guess is that this news will be the raging talk of NAMM pro audio.....and that everyone will want one.....but very few will actually sell. Talk and emotion is cheap, but $7k takes commitment. I could be wrong, but that's what I suspect will happen. There are great alternatives for 1/3 that price.... all that said, I still want one.
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Post by ericn on Jan 10, 2018 12:49:24 GMT -6
My guess is that this news will be the raging talk of NAMM pro audio.....and that everyone will want one.....but very few will actually sell. Talk and emotion is cheap, but $7k takes commitment. I could be wrong, but that's what I suspect will happen. There are great alternatives for 1/3 that price.... all that said, I still want one. Yeah having worked for the dealer that over the last 25 years closed out almost every Senn/ Neumann Special Edition, I'm crossing my fingers, but the FET47 seams to have done well.
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Post by ragan on Jan 10, 2018 12:54:01 GMT -6
My guess is that this news will be the raging talk of NAMM pro audio.....and that everyone will want one.....but very few will actually sell. Talk and emotion is cheap, but $7k takes commitment. I could be wrong, but that's what I suspect will happen. There are great alternatives for 1/3 that price.... all that said, I still want one. I could see it going either way at $7k but I’d lean towards your view I think.
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Post by spindrift on Jan 10, 2018 12:59:30 GMT -6
Hmmm, as the owner of 4 MK67s, my newly reissued U67 isn't even in my possession yet and I need a replacement BV12 transformer. 4 of them in fact
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2018 13:20:36 GMT -6
My guess is that this news will be the raging talk of NAMM pro audio.....and that everyone will want one.....but very few will actually sell. Talk and emotion is cheap, but $7k takes commitment. I could be wrong, but that's what I suspect will happen. There are great alternatives for 1/3 that price.... all that said, I still want one. I imagine you’re right. The hard line demand for mics like this is very low.
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Post by drbill on Jan 10, 2018 13:34:30 GMT -6
I'd be really interested in how many $6k + mics sell in the US every year - new and used combined. I bet I could count up to that number fairly quickly. Talk is cheap as they say and everyone WANTS those mics, but the reality is very few have enough money to buy one. I know I'd have to think long and hard about shelling out $7k+ for a mic.
It's kind of like consoles. Everyone SAYS they want one, but the reality is, very few want to build a room that would hold one, then actually buy and commission one.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2018 13:47:52 GMT -6
While those/these mics sound amazing, I think many of the people that can afford them A) Already have dozens of vintage and boutique clones, B) Realize that these things aren't the magic panacea C) Would rather buy vintage... Anyway, everyone has been clamoring for Neumann to do this, and now here we are naming off all the reasons it won't work lol. I bet they have a very small limited run of these, cause a commotion and sell out.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2018 13:48:41 GMT -6
Hope it doesn't end up like limited series guitars (of course those are in the tens to hundreds of thousands) and a Japanese collector comes and buys the entire batch...
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Post by ericn on Jan 10, 2018 13:53:56 GMT -6
I'd be really interested in how many $6k + mics sell in the US every year - new and used combined. I bet I could count up to that number fairly quickly. Talk is cheap as they say and everyone WANTS those mics, but the reality is very few have enough money to buy one. I know I'd have to think long and hard about shelling out $7k+ for a mic. It's kind of like consoles. Everyone SAYS they want one, but the reality is, very few want to build a room that would hold one, then actually buy and commission one. Want to guess how many times I have had to talk a manufacturer down from how supposed demand there was or not to base their production schedule on the first month?😁
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2018 13:55:46 GMT -6
As a manufacturer, I'd rather keep people waiting than be stuck with 500 units.
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Post by drbill on Jan 10, 2018 13:57:03 GMT -6
I'd be really interested in how many $6k + mics sell in the US every year - new and used combined. I bet I could count up to that number fairly quickly. Talk is cheap as they say and everyone WANTS those mics, but the reality is very few have enough money to buy one. I know I'd have to think long and hard about shelling out $7k+ for a mic. It's kind of like consoles. Everyone SAYS they want one, but the reality is, very few want to build a room that would hold one, then actually buy and commission one. Want to guess how many times I have had to talk a manufacturer down from how supposed demand there was or not to base their production schedule on the first month?😁 I'd love to guess, but I'd rather have you just tell me.
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Post by ericn on Jan 10, 2018 13:57:30 GMT -6
While those/these mics sound amazing, I think many of the people that can afford them A) Already have dozens of vintage and boutique clones, B) Realize that these things aren't the magic panacea C) Would rather buy vintage... Anyway, everyone has been clamoring for Neumann to do this, and now here we are naming off all the reasons it won't work lol. I bet they have a very small limited run of these, cause a commotion and sell out. I am beginning to wonder if they are setting up a small hand built division to build limited runs of classics and upset the high end clone market? Maybe we gt KM84's in the next 2 years?
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Post by drbill on Jan 10, 2018 13:59:26 GMT -6
While those/these mics sound amazing, I think many of the people that can afford them A) Already have dozens of vintage and boutique clones, B) Realize that these things aren't the magic panacea C) Would rather buy vintage... Anyway, everyone has been clamoring for Neumann to do this, and now here we are naming off all the reasons it won't work lol. I bet they have a very small limited run of these, cause a commotion and sell out. I am beginning to wonder if they are setting up a small hand built division to build limited runs of classics and upset the high end clone market? Maybe we gt KM84's in the next 2 years? Hmm... Like KT and their EQP? Let's skip the 84's and go straight to 86's!!!!
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Post by ericn on Jan 10, 2018 14:04:46 GMT -6
As a manufacturer, I'd rather keep people waiting than be stuck with 500 units. Yeah but economies of scale means your per unit cost goes down when you buy in bulk, plus your biggest dealers are going to be more inclined to place larger upfront orders so your more likely to see smaller dealers buy one so they don't lose out to the big guys on the couple they will sell because Sweetwater has one on the shelf and a later order is three months out! I'll bet 500 pieces or less and that's it for this run.
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Post by drbill on Jan 10, 2018 14:06:55 GMT -6
Honestly, I'd be surprised if they sell / manufacturer 500. That's a LOT of mics.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2018 14:08:45 GMT -6
While those/these mics sound amazing, I think many of the people that can afford them A) Already have dozens of vintage and boutique clones, B) Realize that these things aren't the magic panacea C) Would rather buy vintage... Anyway, everyone has been clamoring for Neumann to do this, and now here we are naming off all the reasons it won't work lol. I bet they have a very small limited run of these, cause a commotion and sell out. I am beginning to wonder if they are setting up a small hand built division to build limited runs of classics and upset the high end clone market? Maybe we gt KM84's in the next 2 years? Actually - you know what - THAT'S what I heard about...it wasn't the U67, it was the km84. Totally got that mixed up.
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Post by ericn on Jan 10, 2018 14:20:25 GMT -6
Honestly, I'd be surprised if they sell / manufacturer 500. That's a LOT of mics. Yes and no, from the perspective of selling a bunch of mics at $7k yes it is! From the perspective of one of the largest manufacturers of mics it could cost as much as 100 or 250. I was always suprised how often between quantity breaks and hitting the amount for free freight was what made production feasibile and profitable! Plus depending on accounting and how international distribution is set up it may be more profitable for Senn/Neumann if Senn USA is sitting on a 100 that we all eventually pick up for $6200.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 10, 2018 15:08:36 GMT -6
Hmmm, as the owner of 4 MK67s, my newly reissued U67 isn't even in my possession yet and I need a replacement BV8 transformer. 4 of them in fact BV-12?
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 10, 2018 15:35:17 GMT -6
$7000. My my. Too bad I am a broke musician. :-)
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 10, 2018 15:43:09 GMT -6
My guess is that this news will be the raging talk of NAMM pro audio.....and that everyone will want one.....but very few will actually sell. Talk and emotion is cheap, but $7k takes commitment. I could be wrong, but that's what I suspect will happen. There are great alternatives for 1/3 that price.... all that said, I still want one. I'd love a couple. You are totally correct, though. When they just plain aren't available, it's easy to say a lot. Now they are here, and $7k isn't out of line if they are going to the trouble to do it completely right(which I am sure they are). That is a hell of a lot of money for a mic. A tool for an industry that is seeing it's largest end users close down and give way to many more small businesses and hobbyists. If you are one of the giant's from yesteryear, sure, you can put down 7k for mics. But those guys are already set up with well maintained originals. Neumann will probably make very few u67 reissues. It just doesn't make total sense. However, they know there will be some small/medium studios that will spring for one or two if they get a loan. Then there are the hobbyists who are wealthy and have no problem getting a couple with fun money. The guys buying curve benders because they can. I'm sure Neumann has done their research.
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Post by spindrift on Jan 10, 2018 16:29:34 GMT -6
Hmmm, as the owner of 4 MK67s, my newly reissued U67 isn't even in my possession yet and I need a replacement BV8 transformer. 4 of them in fact BV-12? Oops, yes. Edited. Thanks for catching that.
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Post by joseph on Jan 10, 2018 17:24:04 GMT -6
I'm just glad there will now be more unmodified 67s in existence.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 10, 2018 17:48:06 GMT -6
I'm just glad there will now be more unmodified 67s in existence. As am I. The more u67's out there, the better if you ask me!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2018 17:15:23 GMT -6
With the reissue of the classic Neumann U67, you can now add a little piece of history to your mic locker. The U67 reissue is an exact replica of the vintage models and features 100% historical accuracy - from sonic qualities to construction of the casing and power supply.
The reissue is, in fact, so historically accurate, that vintage components can be swapped into the casing or power supply without any issue. The microphone includes the legendary KK67 capsule and EF86 tube, with three selectable polar patterns including Cardioid, Omni and Bi-Directional.
The power supply has been slightly modified to meet EU regulations, other than that, the components and housing are to the vintage specs. The reissued power supply is fully compatible with vintage U67s or restored models.
The reissued set includes the U67 microphone, power supply, cable with vintage-correct connections and vintage style suspensions. All of these components are housed in a high-quality leather carrying case.
THE LEGEND
The Neumann U67's origins begin in the late 50s, as the successor to Neumann's flagship microphone, the U47. The VF14 tube, which helped contribute to the U47 sound, was being withdrawn from production by Telefunken, necessitating the creation of a new microphone.
The U67 features a host of new technological advancements. Mylar was used for the capsule membrane, held in tension by a brass ring as opposed to glue; an internal cutoff filter and external pad switch helped counteract the proximity effect; a new dual-capsule created an accurate figure-of-eight pickup pattern; a smaller EF86 tube allowed for a slimmer body; and most importantly the overall shape of the microphone changed. The new iconic look featured a tapered head grille, and a tapered body shell. So unique was this mic design, that Neumann patented it.
Neumann originally named their new microphone the U60, after the year of its creation. This was later amended to the "U67", showing continuity with its parent microphone, the U47. By 1967, the predecessor was no longer manufactured, and the successor reigned supreme as the large diaphragm tube mic of choice for audio professionals worldwide; a condenser mic that can be used on almost any instrument or vocalist with outstanding results.
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS REVIEWS
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