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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 3, 2017 18:05:28 GMT -6
I know Colin is super busy right now. He just posted on IG saying he is working on about 25 album masters to be released this month alone.. Amazing π I don't know if his work load affects Aria return emails...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 3, 2017 0:39:05 GMT -6
ChaseUTB said, "I don't use either ( console or summing mixer ) and I have to compete with some of the loudest genres there are" .
I've heard some of your tracks and they were well done and certainly not deficient in any way. The thing is for my style of music, stridency seems to come with pushing it all too hard. Probably if I had more professional help at all stages it's be fine, but sometimes I've compromised taking enough care to get it right from the start because I was trying to keep my artistic inspiration from vanishing when I put my engineering hat on for a while. I've gotten better at it, but some of my older tracks that I began when I first got an interface and a DAW are nasty, and I've been trying to massage them into shape to make a new album now. I remember hearing some tracks with and without a summing mixer, and man, the summing mixer tracks just had more muscle. The volume might have been the same, but the sound sure wasn't. Thank you for the compliment MJB and I agree that when pushing a song for " level " with a limiter the strident frequencies become apparent because those strident frequencies ( 2khz-5khz ) make things louder due to the ear being more sensitive to them at higher spl/ Db levels. ( Fletcher Munson Curve ) Yes don't get me wrong, summing mixer and console line stages can add to the overall sound and cohesion of the music. And yes I would love an Aurora audio sidecar for exactly what you speak of. I know a lot of the loudness for your style of music has to do with how well the music is recorded to begin with.. Depending on hot the level of the audio and how the console/ summing mixer circuits are setup, most, that aren't clean like a dbox, are adding color, harmonics, RMS level, while still keeping things alive and breathing... Plus no latency when tracking with a console! I think there can be so much done today ITB it is amazing. I still understand the importance of analog HW but don't let those HW wants get in the way of making great music in the in between time...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 3, 2017 0:13:52 GMT -6
I disΒ·dain disΛdΔn/ noun 1. the feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt. wasn't quoting you or saying Ragan said this regarding the sound of the Apollo.... I wasn't talking to you or about you, you quoted me. I did not bring up the Apollo or it's sound it was a response to a previous poster in the thread.. Have a good day Yes I'm aware of the term. You're "80-90% of users on here" trashing Apollo's is baffling to me and your 'disdain' comment came out of nowhere in my book. 80-90% is too much you are right, 60-70% is more realistic and again I am speaking of the SF Apollo... My original response was to Guitfiddler, it's my fault for not quoting him now that I think about it... I am just voicing my opinion regarding the SF Apollo like others do... Have a good night ( which I guess saying that means I'm pissed off at you ? )
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 3, 2017 0:08:10 GMT -6
I love how when I voice my opinion I'm pissy... I am talking about the SF Apollo and my response originally in this thread was because GuitFiddler ( sp?) said it sounded so bad he had to sell it. You even liked that comment Johnkenn ... This is the second time you have mentioned piss in this thread ππ€ You ask Kcat if he was pissed but you don't ask me? I haven't been pissed at all about anything. Posters like to voice their opinions on how shitty the SF Apollo is, why am I being pissy when I voice mine. Again, The SF Apollo is a very capable interface and has everything one needs to make a hit record. Compared to higher end interfaces or converters they may not sound as good or convert as true to source however that's certainly not holding anyone here back of making great music π―π€ I try to type as polite and respectful as possible. Sometimes auto correct changes words however I don't think this is an issue here. I thought this was a board for open opinion and sharing experience with these products... I actually haven't even posted that much recently... Y'all have a great day
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 2, 2017 18:17:25 GMT -6
I've noticed that everyone who uses a real console or at least a summing mixer gets louder mixes than me that are still clean. So I don't think it's about cutting any frequencies. I've seen online tutorials about making some sharp cuts in the bass and kick drum so they don't overlap too much, but that's a little over my head. Also, I've found that one compressor plug-in seems to get harsh when pushed for loudness, ao I add a little bit of multiple compressors. First, a tape sim, (probably the best beginning to get louder) UAD's are quite good. Then Slates VBC, mostly for tone, but adding 1-2db more volume. Then I'll put a workhorse compressor like the UAD API 2500, find the Mix Glue preset, tweak that, which adds the last little bit of volume.Β I'm planning on using ARIA for some mastering soon. At the prices they offer, I'd say just get it to sound good, and let them handle it. I don't use either ( console or summing mixer ) and I have to compete with some of the loudest genres there are ....
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 2, 2017 18:10:42 GMT -6
80-90% percent of RGO constantly talk about how horrible the apollo's are... this thread is about a plugin And it may be true that compared to other high-end interfaces the Apollo doesn't sound as good but it's not horrible sounding and it's definitely capable of making a hit record I have zero idea what you're talking about. Many happy Apollo users here. Bringing up the Apollo at all here was a total non sequitur. I disΒ·dain disΛdΔn/ noun 1. the feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt. wasn't quoting you or saying Ragan said this regarding the sound of the Apollo.... I wasn't talking to you or about you, you quoted me. I did not bring up the Apollo or it's sound it was a response to a previous poster in the thread.. Have a good day
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 2, 2017 13:42:36 GMT -6
Can't mix what you can't hear and unless your monitors have a built in DA then then the DA is feeding the monitoring chain and or console which affects your decisions downstream... I think it's very important for the DA to be more linear throughout the freq spectrum Due to the various monitoring levels from mixing and mastering... One doesn't want the DA converter or circuit adding 5 Db at 7khz to the signal because the da converter cant convert the signal as linearly at those high spl levels as it can with low levels... To me AD converters are less affected here because gain in the DAW can always be made up very cleanly, so if the ad converter doesn't perform well at high Db / spl levels, you can hit the ad converter very conservative and make up level later...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 2, 2017 11:30:23 GMT -6
80-90% percent of RGO constantly talk about how horrible the apollo's are... this thread is about a plugin ? Appollo's would probably be one of the most common interfaces here, I think most are pretty happy, but there are some things they would change if in a perfect world. The posts and comments don't reflect that. Every thread regarding UAD the Apollo sound quality gets brought up... trust me I'm always defending the product
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 2, 2017 11:02:01 GMT -6
A lot of disdain for Apollo units π©ππ Glad peers are enjoying the new SSL mk2... Disdain? What? 80-90% percent of RGO constantly talk about how horrible the apollo's are... this thread is about a plugin And it may be true that compared to other high-end interfaces the Apollo doesn't sound as good but it's not horrible sounding and it's definitely capable of making a hit record
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 2, 2017 9:03:57 GMT -6
A lot of disdain for Apollo units π©ππ Glad peers are enjoying the new SSL mk2...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 1, 2017 23:35:35 GMT -6
forgotteng Awesome vid, I always like you vids! They are always informative and thorough and don't blow my ear drums out if I am watching it n the studioπ¬π How is the phantom power light on that is crazy, especially without it actually receiving power... Is it actually an led light that is illuminated? Wow just saw JK post that's weird his does the same... Wow you are a patient man π€ I can't believe it took two years for you to receive your preamp, that's a long wait. I hope the sound is what you desire and more and I hope you enjoy using it in your studio! Hope you received a nice discount on this item or your sa4000 π. Looking forward to more of your vids... What's your YouTube channel so I can subscribe to you ?
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 19:48:07 GMT -6
Can I please pay the Canadian price π€ Man I didn't know electrons got confused?.... no wonder my mixes suck πππ I always do my best to make sure the protons are gridded up and in time with tempo and the whole dam time is the friggin electrons that matter π€¦ββοΈ So from here on out I'm going to treat my electrons with the finest of analog compression and the highest quality A/D converter I can buy. ThenI will work at 192khz sample rate because electricity can travel faster with a higher sample rate πππ₯ How did I miss this in my intro to analog audio class.. ]Dam This is an ultimate game changer... Man my mixes are saved ...... not to mention my shitty hosa cables... Wow I owe my left nut to Exponential Audio π«π¬ ( may be April but I am no fool π€π²π)
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 14:04:24 GMT -6
Always heard great reviews about Ed andersons transformers... And CAPI and hairball employ them in their respective circuits... jsteiger can probably tell you way more
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 14:01:36 GMT -6
16 bit has already been dithered, I would not dither again, you will be adding noise to your file for no reason...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 13:58:39 GMT -6
F*CK Cancer .... lost my younger brother and best friend to it plus my other best friend to an OD....
Bailey is finally at peace, I hope that can comfort you at this rough time. Be strong!
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 13:54:55 GMT -6
Yes SoundCloud reduces everything to 128kbp/s for streaming playback no matter what you upload... you will have to enable downloads and upload the wav file, that is if you want everyone to have a free copy of a single you may sell... You can use the google drive also Johnkenn posts a lot of links where I can play them from my phone.. hope he chimes in jcoutu1 knows a couple ways to post music as well.... they should be able to help... My star color changed from silver to purple recently not sure if it has to do with the amount of activity one spends here posting and replying... IDK
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Mar 31, 2017 13:43:05 GMT -6
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 13:43:05 GMT -6
Ya it's bad bro we have more wing spots than liquor stores... Every gas station in the hood has a wing spot. The corner across has a dude smoking out a big grill selling $5 plates ( burgers, dogs, yup chix wings too, beans, corn) Then half a block there will be Atl Wings ( franchise ) and opposite side of Atl Wings will be yup you guessed it... American Deli ( franchise ) and they always have wing Specials Tues and Thursday's... Now on the same road at the next light there will be a strip center with 3 Asian/ Korean/ Chinese places that have wing Specials and Chinese food as well as the local hood spot that Svart mentioned that are on every corner and strip mall.. This will be in one hood like Hollowel ( Bankhead ) for a 2 mile drive...
Each hood is ATL is like this and there is probably 15-25 known historic neighborhoods in ATL. This also doesn't count 285 loop ( inside the perimeter) where again the Chinese style spots thrive every strip mall ( every half a block ) from downtown to midtown to buckhead to sandy springs to Decatur and the airport...
i bet ATL consumes more wings than any city plus our strips clubs are the best and the food is unbelievable... pull up to magic city on a Monday and prepare to lose your mind... dam near 5 star chef and beautiful females of all complexions butt ass naked ....
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 8:42:49 GMT -6
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 31, 2017 8:40:00 GMT -6
Thanks, guys! I probably like E better, but when I think about competing for sync placement and the like, I want to be as loud as the next guy...I know, I know...but I want to make money. Ding ding ding we have a winner .... you are not buying this record from cd baby.... The consumers are π¬π€ Congrats on an awesome release
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 30, 2017 13:44:53 GMT -6
I swear I'm not trying to get people to listen lol. I was gonna release this to CD Baby as a single...maybe I'm big in Tunisia. Anyway, trying to decide if the Aria Mix A or E is better. A is more consistent with the radio, but also freaking crushed...what do you think? I might have labeled them differently by now, but the loud one is A and the softer, E. Vocal is more emotional in A for me and that to me is the focal point of the song, you singing and pouring your heart out... yes A is more crushed but if you want to sell this as a single I think this may be better... I did not have time to level match just listened to them as is, if level matched in DAW I may pick the other, however from this comparison alone A sounds more single like and radio friendly... Haha everyone picked E... what do I know π©π€
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 30, 2017 13:39:23 GMT -6
Pianos are notorious for this tyoe of buildup and everything I mix has pianos in it π Same with chugging guitars and woo finesse of bass drums
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 30, 2017 0:42:25 GMT -6
This is the 3rd, so I'm well aware of the upkeep costs. They're 3, 2, and 2 day old now. Haha Congrats Jesse! A handsome devil you've got there! I've got a not quite 3 year old and another on the way Congrats ragan π
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 30, 2017 0:38:06 GMT -6
Get them in your room and work on them first!
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 30, 2017 0:37:10 GMT -6
I work in bass heavy genres I'm not cuttIn any type of bass info he'll no... in other words a properly balanced mixed will be loud before limiting... the limiting/ normalizing / clipping/ clip gain, the mix should be loud and slamming before these processes... check your attack times make sure you are letting the initial transient through...
Loud also comes from contrast, if everything is at -7rms the whole time it won't sound loud compared the same track that has some -10rms some -12rms and then -7rms in the chorus...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 29, 2017 14:31:40 GMT -6
Micing a shrill / bright guitar amp that has a bright guitar like a tele being ran thru it I also like blending with sm57 on guitar reamping... Use an output to feed a reamp di and that hits the head and you Mike the cab with 1/2/3 mics more than 3 can get phasey... ( think I got the signal flow right its been a couple years since reamping di's hands on )
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