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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 4, 2019 8:47:37 GMT -6
I think to some extent the mike's ability to pick up sibilance is a function of how directly those sound waves hit the capsule and their force and the mike's sensitivity to sibilance is a function of its design ? All I know is that working the mike works: to an extent.
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Post by Guitar on Feb 4, 2019 9:10:34 GMT -6
Has anyone tried the pencil trick? I've always wanted to, but never have.
I just use the FabFilter DS almost every time.
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Post by ragan on Feb 4, 2019 9:41:22 GMT -6
Has anyone tried the pencil trick? I've always wanted to, but never have. I just use the FabFilter DS almost every time. I have. Didn’t do much for me. I just go with the standard slightly off axis and de-easing where needed. FabFilter ProDS is a beautiful thing.
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Post by Ward on Feb 4, 2019 9:47:22 GMT -6
The thing I've noticed? All mics can suffer from proximity effect and the variety of low cuts or HPFs available on the TG are definitely going to be beneficial to most users.
But as much as the REDD blows me away, the TG does not. And I know I can be the odd man out, sometimes, but that's just the way it goes.
That being said, the TG is one of the most flexible microphones ever made.
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Post by ericn on Feb 4, 2019 10:24:40 GMT -6
The thing I've noticed? All mics can suffer from proximity effect and the variety of low cuts or HPFs available on the TG are definitely going to be beneficial to most users. But as much as the REDD blows me away, the TG does not. And I know I can be the odd man out, sometimes, but that's just the way it goes. That being said, the TG is one of the most flexible microphones ever made. I think you and I have talked about this before, Mic choice is so emotional that what blows you away might blow chunks to me. I also know that as a former gearpimp price/ value always creeps into my mind more than you and many others around here, I think Wade has given is one of the most useful solid state mics to come about in a long time. This thing just has so many different tones. Wade has always delivered great tones but lately it seams like somebody let him use a Distressor and he said to himself “ cool concept now how about I take this concept to a higher level “ I just see some guy buying this or the tube mic and a RS124 finding himself overwhelmed by the tonal possibilities in the best way possible. My bang for the buck LDC has always been the M7 Gefell’s but the more I hear of this thing I’m beginning to think we might have a new favorite.
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Post by drbill on Feb 4, 2019 10:28:35 GMT -6
The thing I've noticed? All mics can suffer from proximity effect and the variety of low cuts or HPFs available on the TG are definitely going to be beneficial to most users. But as much as the REDD blows me away, the TG does not. And I know I can be the odd man out, sometimes, but that's just the way it goes. That being said, the TG is one of the most flexible microphones ever made. . My bang for the buck LDC has always been the M7 Gefell’s but the more I hear of this thing I’m beginning to think we might have a new favorite.Grrrrrrrr
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Post by ericn on Feb 4, 2019 11:02:00 GMT -6
. My bang for the buck LDC has always been the M7 Gefell’s but the more I hear of this thing I’m beginning to think we might have a new favorite.Grrrrrrrr I know I can’t believe it for over 25 years it’s been the Gefell, but I have yet to have the TG in hand and in all honesty right now I don’t have any voices at hand that could give it the bump if Adam sent me one.
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 4, 2019 13:52:04 GMT -6
I'm really intrigued by this mic due to the few samples online and the solid reputation of Chandler. But...can we hold off on the coronation of this as King of All Microphones for a few weeks? With it's unique power supply and multiple sound choices I'd really love to hear feedback after folks have recorded AND MIXED with it for a while. There are many new products that on first listen blow your mind, and then upon further review present issues that aren't as pleasing to the ear as we thought. I'm hoping this mic is everything Chandler says it is, but I'm not pulling the trigger until a lot more owners weigh in.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 4, 2019 14:26:27 GMT -6
No one is saying it’s the king of mics...and a great song trumps a great recording every time...but this thing is excellent and cheaper than a new zingy U87.
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 4, 2019 14:31:20 GMT -6
No one is saying it’s the king of mics...and a great song trumps a great recording every time...but this thing is excellent and cheaper than a new zingy U87. You aren't saying that John...but others here are calling it a "new favorite" and "modern classic" before even trying it. There's nothing wrong with getting excited about gear--that's why we love RGO! But this mic is such a different beast I think it'll take time before the reviews are completely accurate. I'd love to hear some vocal samples when you have time.
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Post by Guitar on Feb 4, 2019 14:32:30 GMT -6
I don't think reviews are ever completely accurate.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 4, 2019 14:43:58 GMT -6
True, I only tried it on my voice-but have "quick ears"-since I've listened to myself on a TON of microphones over the years!
Also I give quality audio "clips" more credence, than I used to, relatively speaking. Honestly, if I had a pro recording studio I'd get a (used) U87ai for that name recognition on the gear list. Then get the TG for the 2nd one on the vocal mic list. Then mic geek that I am, U47/U47/251/C37/414/44 ribbon style microphones, and top it off with a REDD after that! (that reminds me to get a lottery ticket today)
And yes LPE, it would take me a while to better understand the TG, for other non-vocal uses...
Chris
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Post by reddirt on Feb 4, 2019 16:56:21 GMT -6
Just to go back to sibilance for a sec; the performer is the major determinant here - some people are very sibilant , some not so much so it's hard to blame a mic listening to clips. And yes off axis delivery is a time proven way of reducing sibilance; having said that I'd rather the mic didn't exacerbate it.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by spock on Feb 4, 2019 18:09:39 GMT -6
No sibilance on me, within the settings of my previous post. I'm an excellent litmus test for this! "Don't worry, be happy" fortune cookie say. (In honor of Chinese New Year) Chris That's good to hear. I can be prone to sibilance myself, so I always worry about that. That's one of the things I love about the REDD.47 preamp and RS124. They seem less likely to emphasize harsh sibilance than some other gear I have. shoe I’d been using the TG Mic into our REDD.47 throughout the weekend; I’m betting you’d enjoy System B and setting 4, no low-cut; though unessecary, I also had it multed to the RS124 for a little parallel compression. Fwiw I had the REDD.47 @ + 46 voltage gain & -1 fine gain.
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Post by shoe on Feb 4, 2019 19:09:30 GMT -6
That's good to hear. I can be prone to sibilance myself, so I always worry about that. That's one of the things I love about the REDD.47 preamp and RS124. They seem less likely to emphasize harsh sibilance than some other gear I have. shoe I’d been using the TG Mic into our REDD.47 throughout the weekend; I’m betting you’d enjoy System B and setting 4, no low-cut; though unessecary, I also had it multed to the RS124 for a little parallel compression. Fwiw I had the REDD.47 @ + 46 voltage gain & -1 fine gain. That sounds like a great combo. I use the REDD.47 pretty much all the time for my voice and, based on what I've heard, the program B setting would probably suit me well. I have a baritone voice, so often I do like to use proximity (and voiceover mics) to emphasize that. The flipside is that can also make sibilance worse. Depending on the song I might crank up the fine gain on the REDD, but the 40 and -3 setting is something I use into the RS124 on superfuse on and pretty much everything at noonish for both bass and voice (strangely the same exact settings work well for both for me).
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Post by spock on Feb 4, 2019 19:43:49 GMT -6
shoe I’d been using the TG Mic into our REDD.47 throughout the weekend; I’m betting you’d enjoy System B and setting 4, no low-cut; though unessecary, I also had it multed to the RS124 for a little parallel compression. Fwiw I had the REDD.47 @ + 46 voltage gain & -1 fine gain. That sounds like a great combo. I use the REDD.47 pretty much all the time for my voice and, based on what I've heard, the program B setting would probably suit me well. I have a baritone voice, so often I do like to use proximity (and voiceover mics) to emphasize that. The flipside is that can also make sibilance worse. Depe ding on the song I might crank up the fine gain on the REDD, but the 40 and -3 setting is something I use into the RS124 on superfuse on and pretty much everything at noonish for both bass and voice (strangely the same exact settings work well for both for me). Definitely use the ‘Fibe Gain’ to darken or brighten as needed. If I’d been in System A (which is more forward and harmonically TG typical) and setting 4, I’d pull the voltage gain down to +40 and the fine down to -3–5. The mic sounds great through TG2 preamps too; once these get out there, it will be interesting to see what preamp to TG mic combinations people will gravitate to. Fwiw, my wife said the TG Microphone inspired her to sing, she felt so connected to it; this comes from her loving the REDD Microphone. I think I understand...I was sitting in front of it—at the piano—and just got lost in it, while playing and humming along; it’s like playing the perfect Telecaster and amp combo, it just sings through you.
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 5, 2019 10:48:22 GMT -6
I don't think reviews are ever completely accurate. True, but over time a general consensus forms among professional users that's helpful in buying gear. Sometimes I go out on a limb such as with the Weight Tank 72 pre because companies like that reward first wave buyers with a discount. But in the case of the Chandler TG it's such a differently designed mic that I'll wait until things shake down a bit. I'm hoping that it's great - in part because some folks are raving about its use on acoustic guitar. But it's not beyond the realm that after multiple sessions users will find its electronics unpleasing, unnatural, or finicky--so I'll wait fingers crossed.
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 5, 2019 10:54:12 GMT -6
Honestly, if I had a pro recording studio I'd get a (used) U87ai for that name recognition on the gear list. Then get the TG for the 2nd one on the vocal mic list. Chris Ahh...the old bait and switch! I wonder what the cheapest Neumann out there is. It's a depressing idea to me, but not one without merit.
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Post by Guitar on Feb 5, 2019 11:34:49 GMT -6
I don't think reviews are ever completely accurate. True, but over time a general consensus forms among professional users that's helpful in buying gear. Sometimes I go out on a limb such as with the Weight Tank 72 pre because companies like that reward first wave buyers with a discount. But in the case of the Chandler TG it's such a differently designed mic that I'll wait until things shake down a bit. I'm hoping that it's great - in part because some folks are raving about its use on acoustic guitar. But it's not beyond the realm that after multiple sessions users will find its electronics unpleasing, unnatural, or finicky--so I'll wait fingers crossed. I agree with you, there needs to be a lot more user feedback on these mics. I'm not in the market for one, but if I were, I'd be looking for reviews and examples as many as possible.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 5, 2019 17:23:40 GMT -6
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Post by Darren Boling on Feb 5, 2019 18:51:13 GMT -6
Those samples sound great. I'll prob be trying one of these out in a few months, guessing/hoping it'll be an amazing all around option as I like to keep a solid state mic up at all times and currently have my 87 with the 67 mod in. I'm intrigued by the onboard eq options.
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Post by drbill on Feb 5, 2019 21:10:03 GMT -6
I'm a sibilance machine...this doesn't sound sibilant to me... Certainly not sibilant. Sounds good! <thumsbsup>
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Post by ragan on Feb 5, 2019 21:24:09 GMT -6
Sounds great. Just a big, rich presentation that you could take any number of ways, processing wise.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 5, 2019 21:52:08 GMT -6
Yep. Sounds great! Chris
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Post by iamasound on Feb 6, 2019 5:38:57 GMT -6
It sounds dang good on your pipes with nary a ssssliver of ssssibilance.
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