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Post by stormymondays on Jan 22, 2019 10:42:44 GMT -6
This 1 min vid features a drums, bass and guitar track recorded using TG Microphones; no additional processing Wow. How many mics on the drums and where? What mic settings? |
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 11:08:53 GMT -6
This 1 min vid features a drums, bass and guitar track recorded using TG Microphones; no additional processing Wow. How many mics on the drums and where? What mic settings? Yeah, mind blowing.  I'll have to take a look back, though after NAMM, packing today. There will be another comparison video in a couple weeks, this time a different drum track vs the vintage U87, U47 FET etc...1:1 single mic on source. We'll also do some acoustic gtr and vocals etc... |
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 22, 2019 11:16:53 GMT -6
Yeah, mind blowing. I'll have to take a look back, though after NAMM, packing today. There will be another comparison video in a couple weeks, this time a different drum track vs the vintage U87, U47 FET etc...1:1 single mic on source. We'll also do some acoustic gtr and vocals etc... Indeed! I'm just trying to figure out how many mics I need/can afford. Those drums sound excellent. I think I need to start working on my Glyn Johns technique... |
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Post by Quint on Jan 22, 2019 11:27:16 GMT -6
Wow. How many mics on the drums and where? What mic settings? Yeah, mind blowing. I'll have to take a look back, though after NAMM, packing today. There will be another comparison video in a couple weeks, this time a different drum track vs the vintage U87, U47 FET etc...1:1 single mic on source. We'll also do some acoustic gtr and vocals etc... Recorded live in the same room or separately? I'm just curious about bleed and off axis response. Edit: Nevermind. I went back and rewatched the video. I had forgotten that the video solos the drums and then drums and bass without any apparent bleed, so I guess the answer is that everything was tracked separate. |
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 11:32:50 GMT -6
Yeah, mind blowing. I'll have to take a look back, though after NAMM, packing today. There will be another comparison video in a couple weeks, this time a different drum track vs the vintage U87, U47 FET etc...1:1 single mic on source. We'll also do some acoustic gtr and vocals etc... Indeed! I'm just trying to figure out how many mics I need/can afford. Those drums sound excellent. I think I need to start working on my Glyn Johns technique... yeah man, this mic is crazy! For further session testing, I left one of the final protos in Nashville...The producer engineer's—who has a REDD—been using it since the first impressions trip in early Dec. comments over several scattered days... "Holy shit this mic, present smooth" (on pedal steel, Sys B setting 4,) "I like this mic man" (Acoustic,) "I'm using it on vocals with 2 girls today; It's a fucking winner." It's getting comical. lol |
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Post by christopher on Jan 22, 2019 11:33:58 GMT -6
Great job on this mic! Sounds awesome, looks amazing, love the switches and options! Yeah the drums confused me too, I'm thinking must be close snare I'm hearing? Weird how the snare is so dry and tight, toms have some room decay going on, and hats are much lower level than snare. I like to guess at this stuff, even though I may wrong, but here goes: side of snare with top of mic peaking over to top shell, w/hihat tucked into the null of the pattern. It will be interesting to see how you got this sound.
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Post by ragan on Jan 22, 2019 12:14:59 GMT -6
Yeah I’m interested in details too. It’s a cool, unique drum sound and I’d like to know what part the TG played in it.
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Post by mike on Jan 22, 2019 13:07:26 GMT -6
Recording Magazine looks at the Chandler Limited TG Microphone, Part 1
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Post by guitfiddler on Jan 22, 2019 13:22:56 GMT -6
No compression on that snare? Just straight up mic into preamp/console, or just mic>preamp>DAW? I’m interested in drum mic placement and how many mics used also. Thanks
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 13:38:31 GMT -6
No compression on that snare? Just straight up mic into preamp/console, or just mic>preamp>DAW? I’m interested in drum mic placement and how many mics used also. Thanks No compression or EQ, just TG Microphone into TG preamp. I’ll have to dig into it after NAMM; however, this was our in-house big room, and a room mic is what’s heard in their with the close mics too. The guitar is the same track from the earlier sound sample video. |
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Post by askomiko on Jan 22, 2019 14:00:19 GMT -6
I already see myself breaking the switches... Could they be smaller?
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 14:03:40 GMT -6
I already see myself breaking the switches... Could they be smaller? Fwiw...The switches are the same as the REDD Microphone, none have been broken on any of the many units out in the world. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 22, 2019 14:49:52 GMT -6
Those toms sound insane. No processing at all? Are you sure?
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 15:08:35 GMT -6
Those toms sound insane. No processing at all? Are you sure? Correct, there’s no processing, there’s close & a room mic of course. Speaking of the room it adds a nice bloom. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 22, 2019 15:13:45 GMT -6
Those toms sound insane. No processing at all? Are you sure? Correct, there’s no processing, there’s close & a room mic of course. Speaking of the room it adds a nice bloom. Are the rooms muted then only hit at 20-22? Something weird is happening there. |
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 15:37:21 GMT -6
Correct, there’s no processing, there’s close & a room mic of course. Speaking of the room it adds a nice bloom. Are the rooms muted then only hit at 20-22? Something weird is happening there. Yes the room is only on in spots just an aesthetic choice for the track; I’ll dig into this one more after NAMM. There’s another (different) drum track/video coming, this time TG Microphone vs the U87, U47 Fet comparison, no room. |
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Post by Guitar on Jan 22, 2019 16:18:15 GMT -6
I'm really enjoying this discussion, and all the examples, thanks for sharing.
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 16:29:24 GMT -6
I'm really enjoying this discussion, and all the examples, thanks for sharing. If some of this is as I remember...I may be able to show some isolated stuff. I hadn't planned on digging into the drum mic comparison video until after NAMM, but If I have time I'll try to squeeze something out sooner. |
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Post by Quint on Jan 22, 2019 16:42:50 GMT -6
I'm really enjoying this discussion, and all the examples, thanks for sharing. If some of this is as I remember...I may be able to show some isolated stuff. I hadn't planned on digging into the drum mic comparison video until after NAMM, but If I have time I'll try to squeeze something out sooner. So to be clear, the close mics on the drums were also the TG and only the TG? That kick sounds nice. |
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Post by bigbone on Jan 22, 2019 16:54:00 GMT -6
nice recording......
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 16:58:50 GMT -6
If some of this is as I remember...I may be able to show some isolated stuff. I hadn't planned on digging into the drum mic comparison video until after NAMM, but If I have time I'll try to squeeze something out sooner. So to be clear, the close mics on the drums were also the TG and only the TG? That kick sounds nice. Hi Quint yessir, close mics are only TG Microphones. |
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 17:05:06 GMT -6
Snare is dry and the Toms got a lot of verb, if there are no EQ or process can you tell me how you do it. !!!! I'm going to dig back into it after NAMM, However, the 'verb' is just a room mic added back in for emphasis on the mondo cannon King Kong toms; correct no compression or EQ is on this. In the video edit the track as a whole is up about +3.5 dB. As I'd mentioned prior, If it's what I think it is, it will be fun to break apart and share with everyone. |
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Post by Quint on Jan 22, 2019 17:25:28 GMT -6
Snare is dry and the Toms got a lot of verb, if there are no EQ or process can you tell me how you do it. !!!! I'm going to dig back into it after NAMM, However, the 'verb' is just a room mic added back in for emphasis on the mondo cannon King Kong toms; correct no compression or EQ is on this. In the video edit the track as a whole is up about +3.5 dB. As I'd mentioned prior, If it's what I think it is, it will be fun to break apart and share with everyone. So I know you said no external eq was used, but what about the eq on the TG itself? Can I assume that the tone controls on the TG were used at different settings depending on what instrument it was in front of? |
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Post by spock on Jan 22, 2019 17:39:17 GMT -6
I'm going to dig back into it after NAMM, However, the 'verb' is just a room mic added back in for emphasis on the mondo cannon King Kong toms; correct no compression or EQ is on this. In the video edit the track as a whole is up about +3.5 dB. As I'd mentioned prior, If it's what I think it is, it will be fun to break apart and share with everyone. So I know you said no external eq was used, but what about the eq on the TG itself? Can I assume that the tone controls on the TG were used at different settings depending on what instrument it was in front of? Hi Quint I assume you mean the TG Microphone's onboard controls? Yes, the mic is setup using the best possible configuration for the source and what Wade thought would be apropos for use in the track, there's no additional processing outside of the microphone or following TG preamp. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 22, 2019 18:21:54 GMT -6
Shouldn't there be a free one for generating all these sales? |
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