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Post by Ward on Apr 1, 2019 6:02:41 GMT -6
A Cincinnati REDD fan then? Chris GROAN!!! <iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/3ov9jCGzR1JtD8Hlni" width="480" height="360" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/hd-facepalm-picard-3ov9jCGzR1JtD8Hlni">via GIPHY</a></p> |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 1, 2019 6:05:27 GMT -6
What are you facepalming? Your preference for 600hz?
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Post by Ward on Apr 1, 2019 6:14:09 GMT -6
What are you facepalming? Your preference for 600hz? sorry about that . . . it was from 4 pages back, and seems to have lost all reference since I didn't quote the source. The facepalm was agreement, not objection by the way. Poster was from the Cincinnati area curious about trying the REDD preamp with the TG mic. Chris suggested a REDD preamp fan/own in the Cincinnati area... Cincinnati Reds fan reference, hence the humor. And the facepalm, also intensified by there being quite a few disappointed reds fans considering their 5 - 0 loss to the Pirates in their last game.  But if a 'funny' needs explaining, it isn't very funny. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 1, 2019 6:30:06 GMT -6
Gifs are a pita to post here. Actually, not just here. I can never seem to get the right link/embed code.
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Post by Ward on Apr 1, 2019 8:23:08 GMT -6
Gifs are a pita to post here. Actually, not just here. I can never seem to get the right link/embed code. Yeah, I've noticed. I'll try and abstain in the future. |
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Post by lpedrum on Apr 1, 2019 10:07:48 GMT -6
Sorry, lpedrum ...don't mean to be cranky...there were just so many times at GS when people passed judgement before using the equipment. I see where you might have been implying "if" that experience is correct. It's just so far, in this thread, there have been three people that have had their hands on one and they all really liked it. One bad review and it's damning...See what I mean? I understand how we were talking past each other a bit, but still love RGO as it's led me to buying Weight Tank, Samar ribbon etc. In the case of the TG I was only saying that one person's opinion was a pretty severe thumbs down, not that it was the final word of the TG. I'm also beginning to see that purchasing LDC mics is probably the hardest gear purchase of all--so many variables trying to work with the infinite number of human voices. And I agree that it's strange the the TG sounds so bright on Ragan's voice to the point that I wonder if something's awry with it. |
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Post by ragan on Apr 1, 2019 10:20:40 GMT -6
Hey Johnkenn, do you think the TG I have sounds significantly different on acoustic guitar than the one you demo’d? I have that file you sent me too and I’ll check it out when I get a chance. But that would be a comparison that eliminates the differences in just our voices. Granted we have different guitars and rooms of course. I’m using a Martin HD-28 VTS in a very small, very dead room. |
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Post by Quint on Apr 1, 2019 10:37:15 GMT -6
Ragan,
You DO have a SA-67 on order from Stam though, right? If so, I'm very curious to hear how things shake out between your MK67 and the Stam 67. That acoustic guitar clip with the MK67 sounded seriously good.
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Post by drbill on Apr 1, 2019 10:51:00 GMT -6
I have to try that innertube mod I have the U87ai - U67 Max Mod Kit and heard that innertube is killer. I have to experiment with tubes for my 67 Max Mod. Kind of the quintessential polar opposite of the Max kit. |
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Post by Quint on Apr 1, 2019 11:46:06 GMT -6
I have the U87ai - U67 Max Mod Kit and heard that innertube is killer. I have to experiment with tubes for my 67 Max Mod. Kind of the quintessential polar opposite of the Max kit. Why is that? |
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Post by drbill on Apr 1, 2019 12:01:33 GMT -6
The Maxmod is going towards the traditional "rolled off" sound of a stock U67. The Innertube mod is not emulating anything to my knowledge - it's just Stayne's muse in terms of circuit design and esthetic, and the top end is wide open and C12-ish. So yeah,,,,,completely different. (IMO)
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Post by ragan on Apr 1, 2019 12:09:33 GMT -6
Ragan, You DO have a SA-67 on order from Stam though, right? If so, I'm very curious to hear how things shake out between your MK67 and the Stam 67. That acoustic guitar clip with the MK67 sounded seriously good. I never ordered an SA-67, no. My 67 itch (which was a feverishly tingling thing for years) has been thoroughly scratched since I got the MK67. Particularly since getting the NOS EF86 in there. As is widely noted, 67s vary a ton with tube choice, which is nice because you can tailor it to what you want out of it. |
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Post by Quint on Apr 1, 2019 12:20:50 GMT -6
Ragan, You DO have a SA-67 on order from Stam though, right? If so, I'm very curious to hear how things shake out between your MK67 and the Stam 67. That acoustic guitar clip with the MK67 sounded seriously good. I never ordered an SA-67, no. My 67 itch (which was a feverishly tingling thing for years) has been thoroughly scratched since I got the MK67. Particularly since getting the NOS EF86 in there. As is widely noted, 67s vary a ton with tube choice, which is nice because you can tailor it to what you want out of it. What kind of EF86? Telefunken? Philips? Did you get the tube from Bowie? Sorry for all of the questions, but I just really thought that MK67 of yours sounded great and I'd like to know more details. |
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Post by ragan on Apr 1, 2019 12:24:21 GMT -6
I never ordered an SA-67, no. My 67 itch (which was a feverishly tingling thing for years) has been thoroughly scratched since I got the MK67. Particularly since getting the NOS EF86 in there. As is widely noted, 67s vary a ton with tube choice, which is nice because you can tailor it to what you want out of it. What kind of EF86? Telefunken? Philips? Did you get the tube from Bowie? Sorry for all of the questions, but I just really thought that MK67 of yours sounded great and I'd like to know more details. No worries, it's all posted here in the thread but yeah, Telefunken EF86 "grey shield" from bowie. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 1, 2019 14:37:36 GMT -6
Hey Johnkenn, do you think the TG I have sounds significantly different on acoustic guitar than the one you demo’d? I have that file you sent me too and I’ll check it out when I get a chance. But that would be a comparison that eliminates the differences in just our voices. Granted we have different guitars and rooms of course. I’m using a Martin HD-28 VTS in a very small, very dead room. I actually thought yours sounded a little better...but I just played around a tiny bit...and your playing is killer! I'm interested to see if mine (that's coming in the next few weeks) will sound the same on the same settings. |
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Post by ericn on Apr 1, 2019 15:36:38 GMT -6
Nah we are all Friends, here so Ross-Cann😁 |
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Post by ericn on Apr 1, 2019 15:45:39 GMT -6
Dude. Really? You completely passed judgement on it. “Not the words I was hoping to hear. Pretty damning.” I couldn’t care less whether you consider my opinion. I really, really don’t. I was just trying to figure out how you completely took one person’s opinion as the end all be all for everyone. But it’s cool man. You shouldn’t buy this mic. Just seems like there’s a little confirmation bias going on. realgearonline.com/post/186220Yeah it’s funny how some will just grab onto a clip like it’s a singular representation of every source. Now I will admit a clip on your voice, Cowboy’s or others I have stood in the room as they sang carry more weight, as do the words of you Bill, RB ect who have described gear I have used often and can interpret their use of language. Still at the end of the day I don’t judge till it’s in my hands. |
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Post by ericn on Apr 1, 2019 15:55:36 GMT -6
Sorry, lpedrum ...don't mean to be cranky...there were just so many times at GS when people passed judgement before using the equipment. I see where you might have been implying "if" that experience is correct. It's just so far, in this thread, there have been three people that have had their hands on one and they all really liked it. One bad review and it's damning...See what I mean? I understand how we were talking past each other a bit, but still love RGO as it's led me to buying Weight Tank, Samar ribbon etc. In the case of the TG I was only saying that one person's opinion was a pretty severe thumbs down, not that it was the final word of the TG. I'm also beginning to see that purchasing LDC mics is probably the hardest gear purchase of all--so many variables trying to work with the infinite number of human voices. And I agree that it's strange the the TG sounds so bright on Ragan's voice to the point that I wonder if something's awry with it. Buying mics and speakers are like dating, your idea of perfect is probably my idea of hell on earth. Part of why so many chase the classics’s because most of the time when they don’t seam to fit, they still sound damn good. Remember they were designed and built in the days when most studios had one “ great vocal mic”. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 30, 2019 15:34:51 GMT -6
Just came in today...Sounds awesome on my voice. I sang through it and it sounds like the proto that Adam brought. Going to dig in more later, swamped right now.
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Post by shoe on May 2, 2019 22:21:23 GMT -6
Yeah, I have been using mine a lot, lately. Once I got used to it and found a setting I liked for my voice, it has been pretty much worry free set and forget.
I am planning to use it on some shootout clips I have been...ahem...waiting quite a while to do for my 4 different 1073EQ clones.
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Post by chessparov on May 2, 2019 22:41:07 GMT -6
We're looking forward to more clips! Chris
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Post by mulmany on May 16, 2019 12:03:13 GMT -6
Got to put mine through it's paces last weekend, AcGTR and Vox.
Client said, he could tell a difference in the headphones while we tracked AcGTR. "I don't know what it is, but it's better", we're his words.
I will see if I can post some audio.
Used it through 51xGIX pre into LA2A clone for vox, and it sounded great. Like the vocalist.
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Post by ragan on May 16, 2019 12:51:30 GMT -6
I was in the session where I'd compared the TG to the MK67 the other night and I was listening to the TG vocal tracks I did and going, "What the hell? This sounds awesome. I found it so bright and 10k-emphasized at the time but this sounds really good!". I was very confused for a second until I realized I had a hardware insert on the track and a Harrison 32EQ was patched in and left on a setting I'd used to tame an SDC on an acoustic. Significant 10k cut and hi shelving rolloff and a bit of an 800hz boost. All that just to say that the TG takes EQ nicely and has a cool inherent tone.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2019 12:56:32 GMT -6
I was in the session where I'd compared the TG to the MK67 the other night and I was listening to the TG vocal tracks I did and going, "What the hell? This sounds awesome. I found it so bright and 10k-emphasized at the time but this sounds really good!". I was very confused for a second until I realized I had a hardware insert on the track and a Harrison 32EQ was patched in and left on a setting I'd used to tame an SDC on an acoustic. Significant 10k cut and hi shelving rolloff and a bit of an 800hz boost. All that just to say that the TG takes EQ nicely and has a cool inherent tone. It definitely has an extended top. Strangely - on me - it doesn’t make me any more sibilant. I think my sibilance area is actually a little lower than most. That being said, the last two females I recorded with the 251, they were sibilant as hell...I almost wonder whether I shouldn’t go to Type A setting 1 for females. Or have a heavy hand around the 10khz range during recording. I actually love the mids in this thing. |
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Post by ragan on May 16, 2019 13:06:25 GMT -6
I was in the session where I'd compared the TG to the MK67 the other night and I was listening to the TG vocal tracks I did and going, "What the hell? This sounds awesome. I found it so bright and 10k-emphasized at the time but this sounds really good!". I was very confused for a second until I realized I had a hardware insert on the track and a Harrison 32EQ was patched in and left on a setting I'd used to tame an SDC on an acoustic. Significant 10k cut and hi shelving rolloff and a bit of an 800hz boost. All that just to say that the TG takes EQ nicely and has a cool inherent tone. It definitely has an extended top. Strangely - on me - it doesn’t make me any more sibilant. I think my sibilance area is actually a little lower than most. That being said, the last two females I recorded with the 251, they were sibilant as hell...I almost wonder whether I shouldn’t go to Type A setting 1 for females. Or have a heavy hand around the 10khz range during recording. I actually love the mids in this thing. I like the mids too. Kind of “liquid” sounding. For me the issue wasn’t the extended top, it was the high-mid 10k push. But tamped down with EQ (on me) it sounds good. |
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