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Post by chessparov on Feb 6, 2019 21:16:56 GMT -6
Well said Indie. +1 on your post.
Chris
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Post by ragan on Feb 6, 2019 21:54:18 GMT -6
I listened again. Yeah it's more of a tossup for me now. The TG is a bigger sound (that's the common denominator with that mic, huge size) but the Upton is beautifully clear and smooth in the mids. I think you should keep it too, John.
The TG is a strange animal. Making classic Neumanns sound small and making a 251 sound midrangey???
I want more demos in general of the mic flat, with no EQ'd top.
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Post by spock on Feb 6, 2019 22:14:07 GMT -6
I listened again. Yeah it's more of a tossup for me now. The TG is a bigger sound (that's the common denominator with that mic, huge size) but the Upton is beautifully clear and smooth in the mids. I think you should keep it too, John. The TG is a strange animal. Making classic Neumanns sound small and making a 251 sound midrangey??? I want more demos in general of the mic flat, with no EQ'd top. the TG has on the order of 20 sounds and System B is markedly different than A, the whole structure changes, it’s more pristine and clear in B, A is very TG harmonically etc... |
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Post by chessparov on Feb 7, 2019 0:26:24 GMT -6
IMHO (on those 2 particular settings)...
TG would be great if John K. was singing a classic rock song.
Upton great on his ballads.
Might be interesting trying a "softer combination" of selections on the TG.
Chris
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Post by ragan on Feb 7, 2019 0:28:56 GMT -6
I listened again. Yeah it's more of a tossup for me now. The TG is a bigger sound (that's the common denominator with that mic, huge size) but the Upton is beautifully clear and smooth in the mids. I think you should keep it too, John. The TG is a strange animal. Making classic Neumanns sound small and making a 251 sound midrangey??? I want more demos in general of the mic flat, with no EQ'd top. the TG has on the order of 20 sounds and System B is markedly different than A, the whole structure changes, it’s more pristine and clear in B, A is very TG harmonically etc... Understood. That's why I ordered one weeks ago.  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 7, 2019 2:31:47 GMT -6
What is the back order time, it seems peeps don’t have this in stock ?
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Post by ragan on Feb 7, 2019 2:50:38 GMT -6
What is the back order time, it seems peeps don’t have this in stock ? Last I heard was middle of Feb (from Sweetwater). |
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Post by sirthought on Feb 7, 2019 2:58:56 GMT -6
Really both mics are capturing a high quality vocal take. I can hear a difference between the three in the lower mids, mids, and upper mids. But you have to really focus on that. A casual listen wouldn't cause you to think they are that different. Your overall mix is still going to require you check out what a pass with EQ might improve.
I just think it's exciting whenever a more affordable mic can hang with something that costs two and half times more new. I'm guessing this example is why we might not see comparison videos with the REDD tube mic so quickly.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 7, 2019 3:20:40 GMT -6
Sweetwater is good for you guys in the states for us in cdn not so good as the warranties get wierd and costs for shipping back even for warranty repairs. It’s like the Free Trade Agreement doesn’t exist! |
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Post by sirthought on Feb 7, 2019 3:24:56 GMT -6
What is the back order time, it seems peeps don’t have this in stock ? Front End says end of February. Hopefully I'll see mine in March. |
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 7, 2019 6:28:39 GMT -6
I pretty solidly preferred the TG when I heard these, but I think the Upton fared better than the Neumanns in those Chandler guitar/drums clips. Will re-listen. Yeah - I preferred the TG when I made these too. Listening back, though, I don’t mind the extra mids the Upton brings. And it’s a little less bright on the tippy top. I’m really having great success with the Shanupton, so why sell it? Well, I could pocket $1500 and have a great mic that’s probably more versatile...but I think I’m just going to keep the Upton and get the TG too. But I totally get what you mean. I personally don’t hear a 1500 dollar difference between these mics in this example. That’s a chunk of change to put in your pocket. I’m betting the TG paired with a tube pre like the Coil CA70 would be killer, with even more tonal options using the negative feedback on the Coil. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 7, 2019 7:34:47 GMT -6
Oh, one side note, fwiw...keep in mind we’re hearing 2 of the some 20 sounds available from the TG Microphone and System A is very different from System B; harmonic content etc...changes too. Tell us more, please. . . this sounds intriguing |
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Post by shoe on Feb 7, 2019 12:57:47 GMT -6
Hmm interesting results on that test. I did like the Upton's softness, but it's certainly less neutral (and of course a lot more expensive). I feel like the TG would probably work well with my voice. I'm also a baritone, but I tend to sing less traditionally-baritone material (such as shoegaze and psychedelic music).
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Post by brewer on Feb 7, 2019 19:59:43 GMT -6
Yeah - I preferred the TG when I made these too. Listening back, though, I don’t mind the extra mids the Upton brings. And it’s a little less bright on the tippy top. I’m really having great success with the Shanupton, so why sell it? Well, I could pocket $1500 and have a great mic that’s probably more versatile...but I think I’m just going to keep the Upton and get the TG too. I’m betting the TG paired with a tube pre like the Coil CA70 would be killer, with even more tonal options using the negative feedback on the Coil. This is how I'm thinking. I'd like to hear how it would sound with my Redd 47 pre. From what I understand, the Redd 47 mic works well at a distance from the source. Does the TG have that same ability or does it like a closer source? |
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 8, 2019 2:57:48 GMT -6
This TG is something I will need to get my hands on once the bleeding stops! Not having a good 2019 already....grrrrr!
Is there any way we could get a demo circulated through the RGO chain? I would like to try it out against some of my flagship mics.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 8, 2019 7:51:19 GMT -6
^^This^^ Buying without trying is a big $ decision up here; well over 2 g's cdn.
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Post by Quint on Feb 8, 2019 10:53:44 GMT -6
Not sure if this was posted yet in the thread.
Based on the sounds in this video and others I've seen, I've noticed I keep gravitating towards the 7.5 IPS settings.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 8, 2019 11:08:08 GMT -6
I really like it on drums and acoustic too. OK, I'll be brave and say "Modern Classic"! (again)
Chris
P.S. Or maybe not quite as brave as
I thought. I just read Ryan
Hewitt's "Modern classic"
remark.
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Post by Quint on Feb 8, 2019 12:25:50 GMT -6
I really like it on drums and acoustic too. OK, I'll be brave and say "Modern Classic"! (again) Chris P.S. Or maybe not quite as brave as I thought. I just read Ryan Hewitt's "Modern classic" remark. I liked it on that acoustic guitar clip too. I also like the way the various settings change the sounds the way they do on the vocals. I'm leaning pretty heavily towards picking one up sometime in the not so distant future. The features are right. The look is right. The price is right. The sound(s) seem like they will also be right. |
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Post by Quint on Feb 8, 2019 12:57:36 GMT -6
I know everyone is always chasing the whole "does it sound like a vintage X" microphone, but something like the TG is nice because you can just focus on what sounds good rather than how close it is to a U47/U67/U87/251.
Chandler is also really well positioned to walk the line between not going for exact mic clones while also still maintaining an undeniable pedigree, and all at a price under $2000, at least in the case of the TG. They may end up selling a bunch of these.
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Post by reddirt on Feb 8, 2019 15:29:46 GMT -6
Quint, you make a lot of great points - it's its own thing with excellent build quality (by the looks). Put up against a high priced tube mic it easily holds its own and more because of its versatility. I speculate it might be a great match with the new Weight Tank 72.
In John's takes I thought take A was too bloated and recessed in the mids on that vocal but nothing that couldn't be eq'd on the right source however take B was the best of the 3 (Inc the Upton) as it didn't pinch in the mids while keeping clarity - a bit like a fine example of a U 87 should sound (in my dreams).
If it had fig 8 I'd be seriously looking even though it'll run over 3000 AUD -I'd pay for a mic that takes anything you can throw at it and hopefully this can.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by Quint on Feb 8, 2019 15:53:25 GMT -6
Quint, you make a lot of great points - it's its own thing with excellent build quality (by the looks). Put up against a high priced tube mic it easily holds its own and more because of its versatility. I speculate it might be a great match with the new Weight Tank 72. In John's takes I thought take A was too bloated and recessed in the mids on that vocal but nothing that couldn't be eq'd on the right source however take B was the best of the 3 (Inc the Upton) as it didn't pinch in the mids while keeping clarity - a bit like a fine example of a U 87 should sound (in my dreams). If it had fig 8 I'd be seriously looking even though it'll run over 3000 AUD -I'd pay for a mic that takes anything you can throw at it and hopefully this can. Cheers, Ross That's my one complaint. I wish it had Fig 8. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 8, 2019 16:22:56 GMT -6
If it doesn’t do 8, is it a single diaphragm?
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Post by joseph on Feb 8, 2019 20:39:50 GMT -6
Hmm been busy and I missed all this.
TG Mic 1 sounds real good, TG Mic 3 is a bit too intense for my taste.
I actually prefer the overall sound of this mic to the Redd, which I find a touch too present in the upper mids.
Sounds great on electric guitar and drums too.
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Post by roundbadge on Feb 9, 2019 10:03:29 GMT -6
John that sounds real good... |
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